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 on: Yesterday at 02:33:56 PM 
Started by Steven Kientz - Last post by Steven Kientz
I have a friend who flies in a Rc club nearby. He has talked in the past about the Detroiter stunt plane he had years ago. Is this the same Detroit Stunter (Pampa plan PPN0047) or is it a Strathmoor? My research shows at least 5 different airframes associated with the name Detroiter. I'm figuring he built his from a kit, although he has never said as much. I would like to know if  the Pampa plans are this airframe.
Thanks in advance
Steve

 62 
 on: Yesterday at 02:23:20 PM 
Started by Tim Wescott - Last post by Andre Ming
Thanks for the input, fella's.

I think I'll move forward as I have been doing for decades: Fly nostalgic C/L combat planes and not concern myself with this mess.

I don't compete, so facing any arbitrary ordinances along that line won't be an issue, either.

Boy, this run-away/overly intrusive government can sure screw things up for us law-abiding citizens. Sure would be nice if the FRA, FAA, IRS, EPA, et al ad naseum were ACCOUNTABLE and not above the law.

 63 
 on: Yesterday at 02:17:02 PM 
Started by Tim Wescott - Last post by George Hostler
All this "FAA" stuff has all been very confusing to me. Hard for me to know "just the facts, M'am, just the facts". SO... in recap in simple terms: DO we control liners have to register our airplanes or not? Thanks

Andre, what I found so far:

https://www.faa.gov/uas/faqs/
Quote from: FAA, July 15, 2016
1. What is an unmanned aircraft system (UAS)? The law defines an unmanned aircraft as "an aircraft that is operated without the possibility of direct human intervention from within or on the aircraft" (Public Law 112-95, Section 331(8)) Also called drones, these unmanned aircraft do not have a human pilot onboard. UAS range from radio-controlled, fixed-wing aircraft to helicopters or rotorcraft models sometimes called quadcopters, and can be flown for fun or for work.

http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/amagov/2015/12/17/frequently-asked-questions-about-the-drone-registration-process/
Quote from: AMA, Dec 12, 2015
Q: Is Control Line Exempt? A: Control line models are not controlled by a ground-control station, are not part of an unmanned aircraft system and as such are not required to be registered.
Q: Is Free Flight exempt? A: Similarly, free flight models are not controlled by a ground-control station, are not part of an unmanned aircraft system and as such are not required to be registered.

http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/amagov/2016/01/11/update-uas-registration-frequently-asked-questions/
Quote from: AMA, Jan 16, 2016
Q: Do only drones and multirotor operators need to register? A: No. Everything that uses a ground-control system with a communications link, such as an RC transmitter that is over 0.55 lbs (or 250 grams) and under 55 lbs. is required to register. This includes operators who fly fixed-wing RC aircraft and helicopters, not just multirotors or drones.
Q: I only fly CL or FF, do I need to register? A: No. If you exclusively fly FF or CL and never plan on using a model that involves a transmitter, then you do not need to register.

As Tim alluded to, it appears at this point if you do not use an RC transmitter to control additional functions on a CL aircraft (throttle, carrier hook drop, landing flaps, special features, etc.), that the FAA is not requiring registration. At this point, they are interpreting that a UAS is one that uses radio control. There is some concern that with FAA regulations as written, interpretation could change due to some vagueness in wording.

(Comment: IMO, it makes sense to retain the old Robart 3 line system, or electronics that transmit control signals through the control line wires from handle directly to model without using radio frequencies for control for those who prefer not to register.)

That said, here is another thing to watch for.

http://www.modelaircraft.org/membership/clubs/notams.aspx
Quote from: AMA as of July 23, 2016
Posted 7/19/16: A FAA NOTAM/TFR has been issued for Philadelphia, Pennsylvania and the surrounding area (....) Posted 7/14/16: (...) CLEVELAND, Ohio and the surrounding area (...) Control Line and Free Flight modelers should use discretion when operating within the TFR.
Posted 2/17/09 (Indefinite) A NOTAM has been issued in regards to the Washington DC Special Flight Rules Area (SFRA). (...) The rules and restrictions remain in effect until further notice. Outdoor model aircraft operations are prohibited within the inner portion of the SFRA known as the Washington Metropolitan Flight Restriction Zone (FRZ).

Model aircraft flight ban in Washington DC includes CL aircraft. Anyway, YMMV (your mileage may vary)

 64 
 on: Yesterday at 02:13:14 PM 
Started by Randy Powell - Last post by Mark Scarborough
Ty,

When I built the Avenger, Don Shultz told me that his original weighed 44oz. I worked my butt off to make that plane light. Ended up coming in at 47oz. Told Donnie and he laughed his butt off. Said his actually weighed about 55oz but he told everyone it was 44. Figures.

Yeah I got the same story from him, lol, what a goof, sure will miss him

 65 
 on: Yesterday at 01:46:28 PM 
Started by Steven Kientz - Last post by Jeff Traxler
Charles,The Connie has 4 OS 25's on it and is quite large.There are a couple pics in the scale thread about"Large scale models at Brodak".Allen Goff was the CD or try Fred.They may be of help with contact info.Trax

 66 
 on: Yesterday at 01:39:46 PM 
Started by Randy Powell - Last post by Randy Powell
Ty,

When I built the Avenger, Don Shultz told me that his original weighed 44oz. I worked my butt off to make that plane light. Ended up coming in at 47oz. Told Donnie and he laughed his butt off. Said his actually weighed about 55oz but he told everyone it was 44. Figures.

Here's another pic. The wing LEs and tips are rough shaped. About ready to take it off the jig and do the nose. The rudder is just sitting there. Not attached.

 67 
 on: Yesterday at 01:35:26 PM 
Started by Dave_Trible - Last post by Jim Hoffman
Congrats to all, and thanks to Dave T for the play by play

Derek’s slow motion videos were humbling and fascinating to watch - thanks for doing that

Jim Hoffman


 68 
 on: Yesterday at 01:26:47 PM 
Started by Motorman - Last post by Motorman
I'm not using a Cox .020 I'm saying very low power swinging a 9-8 at 4,000 rpm or hopefully less. A CF prop that would break would have to be paper thin.

MM

 69 
 on: Yesterday at 01:16:52 PM 
Started by Tim Wescott - Last post by Tim Wescott
All this "FAA" stuff has all been very confusing to me. Hard for me to know "just the facts, M'am, just the facts".

SO... in recap in simple terms:

DO we control liners have to register our airplanes or not?

Thanks.



Practicality says they have to catch you first.

AFAIK (and this is third-hand, so take it with a grain of salt) if you don't use 2.4GHz throttle control then no, you don't.

 70 
 on: Yesterday at 01:12:09 PM 
Started by Tim Wescott - Last post by Dan McEntee
All this "FAA" stuff has all been very confusing to me. Hard for me to know "just the facts, M'am, just the facts".

SO... in recap in simple terms:

DO we control liners have to register our airplanes or not?

Thanks.



    Hi Andre!
    I never did and never will. They have yet to put in in a clear, understandable language yet, but as I understand it, things are pretty much where they are before the whole thing started. No way for the FAA to enforce it. Some one posted a reply somewhere on an incident where a quad landed on some one's property, the local law enforcement was called, the quad had a FAA register number on it, and when contacted the FAA said they had no way to trace it! Where you live out there in the mountains, you ain't worth the gas to come get you!!
     Nice to hear from you!
     Dan McEntee
   

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