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Open Forum / Re: Similar Terminology
« Last post by Rusty on Yesterday at 09:40:09 AM »
When you hand start an engine with a non-electric tool, it is called a "chicken stick."  If you hand start an engine with your bare fingers, is that called "steak fingers?" (especially, if they become bloody rare fingers.)
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Open Forum / Re: Has anybody used one of these?
« Last post by Rusty on Yesterday at 09:29:02 AM »
Has anybody tried one of these Horizon/Tower Chinese clone Tac's?  I lost my Hangar 9 in a move, and I am finding out with a twin you REALLY need one.  It has more features than the Hangar 9 at roughly the same price and delivery.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/286567407035?_skw=RC+Tachometer&itmmeta=01JWBYNVATQN60VT2T5F0J1W4T&hash=item42b8bf9dbb:g:sI0AAOSwh1loJEmX&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA8FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1e51w8VGD7eWmzfr223o9wDmz1Eu7D%2BNiZ34BlXw4qCuVvlnOQ3a1CM%2Fao0bBLuJNnQvNrS%2Fv5tT%2Fzdj09fgsyPsYubUTbSzuupXgBM1JQvCviOkdGYPOlYMWumc0SN8hUjjDRQu%2FaGzD3aqNKbloBz5%2FTWj6VVM0RDrXqVrpRc9dlEnSDYWd64qmun5ldR9CFcr7S9JeYHNDWvl4YcNDUNx0hDXrf26O45%2BU2dHCii%2Bj2UewUJe1Pz4SxopzX198M2xrU4%2Fx1sF2hdVWLSlCUjMgHya%2FXmrQjElYZJhLt6hg%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8i11_7iZQ

Ken

Interesting side note:  I asked the Bing AI if the Hangar 9 Tac was made in China.  In bold letters it said "NOT MADE IN CHINA". Reference 1.  So I pulled up Reference 1:

( Brand: Hangar 9 ), ( Manufacturer Part Number: HAN156 ), ( Country Of Manufacture: China, Peoples Republic Of ), ( Harmonized System Code: 8205.51.00.00 ), ( UPC: 605482501566 )

So AI is our future?

I was taught your ears are the best tach combined with properly adjusting the NV.  Listening to what changes when you adjust the NV. 
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Open Forum / Re: ST 35 Combat's sleeve orientation
« Last post by Massimo Rimoldi on Yesterday at 09:13:53 AM »
I seem to recall ST made some sleeves where the exhaust and transfer opened at the same time. The one big window is the exhaust and the two angled windows are the transfer ports. Make sure you get the conrod with the chamfered side forward. The cut out in the back plate goes on the transfer side.

MM :)

What you are talking about is the "Supertigre Transfer Ports" (Travasi SuperTigre) configuration which is the case with Kevin's sleeve.
Even in this case there is a small difference between the exhaust opening and the transfer ports, a few degrees but they are there. The engine MUST start unloading before putting fresh charge into the cylinder.

Massimo
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Open Forum / Re: Has anybody used one of these?
« Last post by Brett Buck on Yesterday at 09:10:55 AM »
An engine that's 4 stroking will have more torque in that rpm range. when it breaks into a 2 stroke the torque drops out so there is less HP until the rpm comes up into a higher range. Generally speaking of course.

   Sort of. What is definitely true is that each individual firing in a 4-stroke is more energetic than a 2-stroke at essentially the same mixture and rpm. So, the peak torque during the firing rev is substantially higher when 4-stroking than 2-stroking. This is more than compensated by the fact that when 2-stroking, it fires twice as often. So the measured torque and horsepower is generally higher in a 2 than in a 4. How much more if a function of a lot of other things.

    This is a finding from the rather remarkable paper by Scott Bair, "THE TWO-CYCLE STUNT ENGINE", wherein the cylinder pressure is measured during operation.

Quote from: Scott Bair

To summarize, when a stunt engine is four-cycling there is a misfire on alternate revolutions. However, the peak pressure when the cylinder fires while four-cycling is about 50% higher than when two-cycling. This should be interpreted as meaning that a good portion of the charge is retained (not ejected from the exhaust port) after the misfire and is added to the charge that will burn during the next revolution.

   Integrating over two full revs gives you substantially more torque/HP when it is 2-stroking than 4-stroking.

     What happens *in flight* when it goes from a 4 to a 2 is more complex - since the engine doesn't just change modes while keeping everything the same as in the test. As measured, the engine goes into a 2-stroke when the load on the engine has dragged the RPM lower enough for engine to fire on a overly-rich charge for level flight load conditions (due to thermal effects,  another observation by Bair:

Quote from: Scott Bair
This may be the explanation for why a two-stroke engine will four-cycle with a rich mixture. The rich mixture cools the head and glow plug and a fuel and air charge that is diluted by the exhaust that has not been swept away will not fire. But, on the next revolution more fuel and air mixture are added raising the concentration of combustible material to where ignition can occur. If the engine temperature increases, either by leaning the mixture or by loading the engine, even the diluted charge will fire and the engine two-cycles.

    The RPM when it finally breaks into a 2, and how much torque difference there might be between the two modes is a function of other engine parameters including the compression ratio.


    Brett

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Open Forum / Re: Similar Terminology
« Last post by Gerald Arana on Yesterday at 09:02:21 AM »
And when a CL stunter goes straight in it is called a lawn dart, regardless if the prop is rotating or not. ;D

or it could be called a "figure" 9......................and , yes, I've done a few of those.....

Jerry
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Engine set up tips / Re: PA 40
« Last post by Motorman on Yesterday at 08:09:47 AM »
How was your friend using it? Just try it and see how it runs.
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Open Forum / Re: Similar Terminology
« Last post by Ken Culbertson on Yesterday at 08:04:36 AM »
I've heard an expert say close one eye when caught trying to eclipse the sun with your model. Light adaptation can vary depending on the individual.
In my aging case, look at the sun and I am blind for about a second or more.  If the wind is directly into the sun before about 11:00 I can either bias the maneuvers and have a crappy pattern, pick up the remaining pieces of my plane or roll up the lines.  I don't even go to the field anymore if the sun is directly down wind except at a contest.   Sun glasses help some but not enough.  It sucks.

Ken
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Open Forum / Re: Has anybody used one of these?
« Last post by Motorman on Yesterday at 08:03:57 AM »
An engine that's 4 stroking will have more torque in that rpm range. when it breaks into a 2 stroke the torque drops out so there is less HP until the rpm comes up into a higher range. Generally speaking of course.

MM :)
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Dan is correct about wheel alignment,, BUT make sure both wheels are free, no drag.. If the inboard wheel is stiff and drags, it will pull the model into the circle... Guess how I learned this.

What Ty said.
Jim Lynch taught me how to bush the wheels with brass tubing. Makes the wheels spin freely.
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Open Forum / Re: ST 35 Combat's sleeve orientation
« Last post by Motorman on Yesterday at 07:54:47 AM »
 I seem to recall ST made some sleeves where the exhaust and transfer opened at the same time. The one big window is the exhaust and the two angled windows are the transfer ports. Make sure you get the conrod with the chamfered side forward. The cut out in the back plate goes on the transfer side.

MM :)
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