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Open Forum / Re: 2025 Nats Qualification Groups, scores and final reports
« Last post by Doug Moon on Yesterday at 08:37:26 AM »
This discussion pops up from time to time and it makes no sense to add categories to our appearance judging.

I absolutely disagree with this approach 100%! This is a control line aerobatics event that requires us to build our own models. We need to be able to build our models to best perform the prescribed maneuvers.  We do not need to be hamstrung into building something or adding something to the model that doesn't help it perform the maneuvers. Adding a cockpit detail or drawing lines on my plane does not make it fly better.  If you want to do that and you can do it in a way that helps present your model positively for appearance judging and does not take away from its ability to perform please do so. I love a cool cockpit detail as much as the next guy. But in no way shape or form does it add to the ability of the plane to fly the maneuvers properly.

Realism? There is nothing realistic about control line stunt planes. They are so far out of scale its funny. I am not talking about war birds only either. If you want to build scale planes that can stunt go right ahead and do it. But I can guarantee you it wont fly nearly as well as your purpose built stunt plane. It simply cant. Don't impose a rule that would hamper flying in any way in order to get max static points.

Originality. Not only do I have to build some kind of a semi-scale plane to get max points now I have to come up with some original design that hasn't been done....good luck on that one. I have heard alot over the years about the Ron Burns planes and seen many pics and they are cool for sure his work was second to none. I have never heard that they flew superior. Remember what we are doing here, flying stunt.

Bob Hunt explained it to me back in the late 90s and it's the best I have heard to date. He touched on exactly what Robert talked about when a more complex model is placed for appearance vs a profile or a simple straight forward stunt plane. He said appearance judging in stunt is simply "the execution of the attempt" The judge doesn't care what color it is, how many engines it has on it, cockpit/no cockpit, what design it is, where it came from, how many times it's been done before, who's it is and so on. NONE of that matters. It is simply the execution of the attempt. This years concourse winner is a perfect example. It is an elegant stunt plane design with flawless execution on the attempt.

This is a contest to determine the over CLPA Champion, keep it that way.
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Open Forum / Re: Team trials location and dates?
« Last post by Jim Hoffman on Yesterday at 08:32:52 AM »
Are the TT a one-day event on Monday?  I too may need to revise my calendar
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Classifieds / Re: Assortment of Control Line Items for sale
« Last post by Robert Zambelli on Yesterday at 08:25:54 AM »
Hi, Harold - it's on eBay.
You must bid on it.
They usually go pretty cheap.
Bob Z.




Bob -

         What are you asking for the Fox 36X ?

Regards,

Harold
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Open Forum / Re: 2025 Nats Qualification Groups, scores and final reports
« Last post by RC Storick on Yesterday at 05:35:37 AM »
This type of scoring would have put Ron Burns' Hell Cat on the front row and at least righted that wrong. Should an SV 11 garner as many points as, let's say, Paul Walker's bomber or Bob Hunt's twin? These are truly original designs and not cookie-cutter airplanes. Not to say an SV 11 could not gain top points (10), but you would need to be, let's say, one of the first 10 to show one, not one of the first 1000. I hope everyone gets the drift.

Now, let's say you build an SV 11 but modify it like Vick McCaluso's F-14, which would earn top points, just one example. It doesn't mean every SV must look like a scale plane; it just means your SV should have the same lines as the other 10 sitting in the row next to it.
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Open Forum / Re: genasis
« Last post by roy cherry on Yesterday at 05:29:54 AM »
thanks i found the photos very intresting  i even found my self at bitterfeld in 2005 flying my saturn  so the photos seem to confirm that the top rudder/ spine dont curve much if any at all  seems to me that that most modlers omit the rudder type body   thanks again    roy 
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Stunt design / 2 blade and 3 blade prop adv & disadv
« Last post by Will Moore on Yesterday at 05:14:59 AM »
What is the current thinking on  the advantages and disadvantages of using a 2 bladed prop as compared to a 3 bladed prop ?

I am finishing up an Ares for Classic competition and wondering which one to use.
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Open Forum / Re: Team trials location and dates?
« Last post by James H. Dean on Yesterday at 02:31:16 AM »
Guess I better add a few days to my calendar  to help out after GSSC.
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Open Forum / Re: 2025 Nats Qualification Groups, scores and final reports
« Last post by M Spencer on July 16, 2025, 10:50:06 PM »
Discus & frissby are Fling Events .   https://www.ebay.com/itm/388678210100?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28&google_free_listing_action=view_item

The Olde Construtors Champ. AND Driver - in Formula one . were two separate  ' cups ' just for the record .  AEROMODELLING is NOT just flying .  >:(
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Open Forum / Re: genasis
« Last post by M Spencer on July 16, 2025, 10:32:25 PM »
Wotits spelledlike is GENESIS .

Can be changed , if you ' edit ' post . to krekt spelink .

https://www.apuca.com.ar/NOTAS/saga_genesis_parte_5.htm

Few pics of rignil , there .

https://www.flickr.com/photos/fesselflug/albums/with/72157626265936150

propriate page , getsyer viewsoffit .

Pheonetic spelling . Or Ivors Ghost attempting his version . nuffin poisonal .

Im sure ive seen a plan or photo - of the thing there . The vertical rear edge is all in line . The Sloped Edge , anyway .



https://www.ebay.com/itm/388678210100?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28&google_free_listing_action=view_item

Clicking on the photo , there . Gets a Top View . LARGER . You can larginerise  it from that . And get it Full Size ! .

Put a straight edge along the fin in the photo . for More confusion .
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Open Forum / Re: The Man and his museum playing now
« Last post by M Spencer on July 16, 2025, 10:26:41 PM »
Thanks . Much ARGH Pre Ciated . Mate . Bro.
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