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Open Forum / Re: Happy birthday Brett Buck
« Last post by Steve Berry on July 09, 2025, 06:25:45 PM »
My big question is, what age were you when you realized the fireworks weren't for you?

Happy (late) Birthday!

Steve

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Open Forum / Re: Happy birthday Brett Buck
« Last post by Martin Quartim on July 09, 2025, 04:59:08 PM »
 a very late happy birthday to Brett! What a great date to be born in the USoA. 

We all need to give him thanks for giving so much of his time sharing his knowledge

Good luck at NATS Brett!

Martin
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Classifieds / Re: Assortment of Control Line Items for sale
« Last post by Rusty on July 09, 2025, 02:13:40 PM »
Received the handles.  Excellent service.  Thank you.
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Gettin all AMP'ed up! / KR timer program stick.
« Last post by John Rist on July 09, 2025, 01:21:52 PM »
Where can I buy a KR timer program stick?
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Open Forum / Re: 2025 Nats Qualification Groups
« Last post by Rusty on July 09, 2025, 11:01:38 AM »
Good Luck, Brett Buck.  Kick some tail feathers!!!!
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Open Forum / Re: 2025 Nats Qualification Groups
« Last post by Mark Romanowitz on July 09, 2025, 09:43:26 AM »
Ahh yes. Indeed.. Thanks, John..
Mark
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Open Forum / Re: ADVENTURES IN SPECTRA
« Last post by Colin McRae on July 09, 2025, 08:50:00 AM »
I also use Spectra for my stooge line since there is little if any stretch. And always the high visibility yellow color for my flying lines which makes them easier to see on the ground.

And the side benefit of lower cost. It costs me about $7 to make up a set of 80# rated 60' lines.

I've only used the PowerPro Brand. Can't speak to other brands. I also did a simple strength test cuz I was curious. I made up a single 2' long line using 65# Spectra and the modified surgeons double loop knot on both ends as shown in the video. And no end rings, but just using my normal line clips. I loaded my fish scale in 5# increments all the way up to 60# with no breakage or knot slippage. That simple test satisfied me on the rated strength of the lines.

Have also read that some have seen lines break at well under the rated strength. But not sure what brand they used or type of knot used. But that is not what I have seen if using the proper knot and PowerPro brand.
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Open Forum / Re: Please help me find someone
« Last post by Dan McEntee on July 09, 2025, 08:30:49 AM »
Indeed.

    When you see Wes, tell him I said "HI". I haven't talked to him since last year's NATS and I hope he's doing well.
 
     Type at you later,
     Dan McEntee
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Open Forum / Re: ADVENTURES IN SPECTRA
« Last post by Ken Culbertson on July 09, 2025, 07:57:57 AM »
   I wonder why some use line that is so heavy for flying smallish stunt models
I have wondered the same thing.  I fly a 70oz PA on 100lb that pulls steady around 10-15 lbs.  I finger fly and actually like the pull.  The pull test is around 45 which is 1/4 the rated strength or 1/2 if you consider the knots and 8-10 times normal flight.  Actually 65 would probably suffice and 80 definitely would.  Granted, they would take more conditioning to remove the stretch, and you couldn't use them for Tuna ( Bonita maybe). Are we perhaps still scared of them?

I agree 100% on the verticals and overheads.

Ken
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Open Forum / Re: ADVENTURES IN SPECTRA
« Last post by Dan McEntee on July 09, 2025, 07:31:30 AM »
  I have been using Spectra lines on most of my .35 to .40 size models for a couple of seasons now, and exclusively on the smaller 1/2A stunt models and trainers. I find them to me much more durable and love the feature that they do not pig tail and kink. For flying stunt, I have found they shine the best when doing the vertical and overhead maneuvers. I have found that every model I have used them on has had better performance in these maneuvers. For a typical ARF Nobler, the weight difference between metal and Spectra lines was very significant. I forget the exact numbers but when I made up a set for a Nobler ARF, the steel lines and reel weight something like 2 1/2 ounces while the equivalent length of Spectra lines and reel was a few grams, more or less the weight of the reel and metal clip..

   I wonder why some use line that is so heavy for flying smallish stunt models. I weigh the model and determine what the pull test would be, then I add 10 pounds to that and that is the weight of the line I use, usually rounded up because there isn't a very wide selection of line at Bass Pro when I go  there. And I have been using Spectra brand, just to avoid any confusion on my part, and buy it locally, as I have both Bass Pro and Cabela's store right close to me. I use the loop and knot that is in the video presented in this thread by Mike Stinson, with the loop doubled like he shows because it just makes sense, and add in the welded metal rings suggested by Dennis Adamisin, then I can use and change normal line clips as desired. So far I have not had any issues with the lines I have made up and use. I remember reading that some one from over seas suggested just a drop of clear silicone to help secure the knot against slipping, as it will remain flexible, and that may help settle anyone's fears of a knot slipping.

    I have mentioned before that this thread contains just about ANYTHING a person could want to know about making up a set of lines using Spectra, and it should be pinned to the top of some section, probably the "At The Handle" section, just to make it easy for people to find.

  Type at you later,
    Dan McEntee
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