Author Topic: So it begins - Avenger 35 (Read 36902 times)

Mark Scarborough · « **Reply #250 on:** January 05, 2012, 09:31:03 PM »

Yeah that is pretty slow progress,, LOL

looks nice though,,

Randy Powell · « **Reply #251 on:** January 07, 2012, 09:25:19 PM »

I just love putting 4 hours into getting a cowl to fit. Jeez... But at least it's fitted now.

Mark Scarborough · « **Reply #252 on:** January 07, 2012, 10:23:32 PM »

do you have a way to hold it on yet?
oh,, and the pylon guys just hold theirs on with clear tape,, it works at 200 mph,, just sayin

wwwarbird · « **Reply #253 on:** January 07, 2012, 11:49:32 PM »

Quote from: Randy Powell on January 07, 2012, 09:25:19 PM

I just love putting 4 hours into getting a cowl to fit. Jeez... But at least it's fitted now.

That's not too bad I'd say, time consuming buggers that they are to get 'em right. Very crucial and satisfying part of a build though in my opinion.

Mark Scarborough · « **Reply #254 on:** January 07, 2012, 11:53:07 PM »

kinda like painting,,

Randy Powell · « **Reply #255 on:** January 08, 2012, 02:21:52 PM »

Right now, I can't get it loose. And building a cowl out of multiple pieces isn't working out so well either. Sigh...

Mark Scarborough · « **Reply #256 on:** January 08, 2012, 02:46:01 PM »

are you opposed to using the "Pat" method ,, carved foam,, glass , then hollow it out?

Bill Little · « **Reply #257 on:** January 08, 2012, 05:30:56 PM »

Quote from: Mark Scarborough on January 08, 2012, 02:46:01 PM

are you opposed to using the "Pat" method ,, carved foam,, glass , then hollow it out?

Yep, hollow it out with a bit of lacquer thinner, or gasoline! Melts foam down to nothing.

BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM,

wwwarbird · « **Reply #258 on:** January 08, 2012, 07:21:19 PM »

Quote from: Randy Powell on January 08, 2012, 02:21:52 PM

Right now, I can't get it loose. And building a cowl out of multiple pieces isn't working out so well either. Sigh...

I thought you had it roughed out and attached at one point, like ready to carve to shape?

Randy Powell · « **Reply #259 on:** January 08, 2012, 08:47:02 PM »

Well, I had to thin it down so much to get it to clear the engine that it was pretty flimsy. So I got it pretty well together now, but went ahead and glassed it with some 3/4oz glass. When that's dry, I'll sand it and polish it up and wax it then do the final fitting. Then I can build the tank and put in the vent and get on with finishing it. Man, this part always drags.

john e. holliday · « **Reply #260 on:** January 10, 2012, 09:07:41 AM »

Boy, or should I say young man, I feel for ya. Finally getting a plug made for a canopy. Forgot everything I knew and have had a few talk sessions to myself over it.

Bill Little · « **Reply #261 on:** January 10, 2012, 11:56:27 AM »

Hi Doc,

It should be a couple weeks now and I will be pulling canopies on the machine I got from the Sawyer Estate. My treatments will be over in March and they say it will take a little bit of time for me to get back to "normal".

Don't know how much business is out there for canopies but I could pull canopies for others. I have several dozen bucks I received in the package along with enough clear plastic to probably last my lifetime!

BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM

Randy Powell · « **Reply #262 on:** January 13, 2012, 11:40:32 AM »

Due some increased demands at work, no work on the plane this week. But I get off early today (and the crowd goes wild!!!) and I hope to get on it this evening. Joy!

wwwarbird · « **Reply #263 on:** January 13, 2012, 07:29:28 PM »

Been quiet here for the past few days, I was about to give you a poke to see what was up Randy. It sucks when that whole work thing gets in the way.

Randy Powell · « **Reply #264 on:** January 13, 2012, 10:25:14 PM »

Yea, I have to drive out to Spencer Aircraft tomorrow (maybe 2 hours each way) to get thinner and SuperFil. Hopefully I can get to it after that.

Randy Powell · « **Reply #265 on:** January 14, 2012, 11:27:35 AM »

Well, there's a monkey in the wrench. Spencer is out of lacquer thinner so I had to order from Aircraft Spruce. that won't be here till later in the week. Hopefully it will be here by the time I need it.

It's out to the shop for me.

wwwarbird · « **Reply #266 on:** January 14, 2012, 08:46:45 PM »

Quote from: Randy Powell on January 14, 2012, 11:27:35 AM

Well, there's a monkey in the wrench. Spencer is out of lacquer thinner so I had to order from Aircraft Spruce. that won't be here till later in the week. Hopefully it will be here by the time I need it.

It's out to the shop for me.

I hope you knew that before you drove the two hours!

I can relate Randy, same luck here with me trying to wrap up this pesky Challenger. The other night I was finally all ready to go gangbusters on the final painting and discovered that I didn't have the "star and bar" insiginias in my stash like I thought I did. I contacted Emily at CLC and she's on it and I should have what I need pronto. Cool, that's one fire out, thanks Emily.

Ok then, let's fire up the compressor and put on the white base color. That's when I realize that after one half-a$$ coat that I've just run out of that too. Called Brodak Friday morning and I'll have more here on Tuesday. I'm definitely at that point where can't wait to get it done and get on to something else.

Randy Powell · « **Reply #267 on:** January 14, 2012, 10:19:35 PM »

Wayne,

Yea, thinking you have something then realizing you don't ... well, it sucks.

Here are some new pics. The plane is pretty much done and ready for finish. I have to build the fuel tank (though the vents are in - I got weird with those. The area is kinda limited. Just need final sanding and I can start finishing it. Good thing I have a bit of thinner left.

wwwarbird · « **Reply #268 on:** January 14, 2012, 10:39:44 PM »

Man that cowl had to be a major bee-atch to get right, looks like a super tight engine fit overall too. Very cool stuff Randy, thanks for the pics.

Mark Scarborough · « **Reply #269 on:** January 14, 2012, 10:58:42 PM »

Quote from: wwwarbird on January 14, 2012, 10:39:44 PM

Man that cowl had to be a major bee-atch to get right, looks like a super tight engine fit overall too. Very cool stuff Randy, thanks for the pics.

I like how we interpreted the cowl different,, and my cowl was really tight, lol in fact I had to turn some of the cooling fins off the head

Randy Powell · « **Reply #270 on:** January 14, 2012, 11:08:49 PM »

I'm not real happy with the exhaust vents and may play with them a bit more. The are in the correct position according to the plan but are not quite right. Other than that, it came out pretty well.

Mark, I'm using a smaller engine and the original 1 3/4" spinner so the nose is pretty tight. If I was using the original OS35S, it wouldn't have been such a tight fit. On the other hand, the air will cool the fins.

Randy Powell · « **Reply #271 on:** January 15, 2012, 01:02:56 PM »

I should have said. i weighed the plane minus the fuel tank. Everything else on the plane and right now it's right at 32oz. Say 1.5oz for the tank and I'm looking at 33.5oz prior the finish. Hey, I'll take a final flying weight of 45 or so ounces. More probably 48-50oz since there are no fillets yet or whatever. But hey, anything sub-50 should be killer.

wwwarbird · « **Reply #272 on:** January 15, 2012, 07:27:40 PM »

Sounding good, just gotta keep that trigger finger under control. Does "everything" include the prop and initial tip weight? What does one of those extra fancy C/F three bladers that you guys use weigh anyway?

Randy Powell · « **Reply #273 on:** January 15, 2012, 08:20:33 PM »

Wayne,

Well, here's a couple of pictures of the plane complete and ready to fly sans covering and finish. Includes prop, tank, wheels and all. Weight is 36.5oz. About 3oz heavier than I thought it would be, but should be sub-50oz if I can go easy on the finish. I already have some thoughts about that.

wwwarbird · « **Reply #274 on:** January 15, 2012, 10:24:32 PM »

Shouldn't be too much of a problem to keep it under 50 from there then, just hide all of those Lowrider magazines.

Looks like it's time to get out the covering!

Randy Powell · « **Reply #275 on:** January 16, 2012, 01:22:48 PM »

And Mark, you might notice the TV in the background of one picture. That's the Huskies putting a beating on the Cougs. And I loved the nose dive Ken Bone took trying to get the officials attention.

Well, it's off to the shop for me and final sanding and starting the finish. WoooHooo!!!!!!

Mark Scarborough · « **Reply #276 on:** January 16, 2012, 01:26:10 PM »

I heard something about this,, hmm isn't that the game they play inside with silly long shorts on,, and some peach basket or something??

Its always a shame when the Huskies beat the Cougs,, but then I really care about next football season much more than this game,,

anyway,, get to sanding,, priming and such,, That thing needs to get done..
BTW,, guess what airplane now has parts on my bench,, being sanded,,

Randy Powell · « **Reply #277 on:** January 16, 2012, 01:46:21 PM »

Converted to electric?

Mark Scarborough · « **Reply #278 on:** January 16, 2012, 01:54:16 PM »

No, at least not yet,, this one is slated for another Magnum 53,,

I figure this one has been long enough, converting would certainly take a bit longer to complete,, maybe the next one?

John Miller · « **Reply #279 on:** January 16, 2012, 03:15:07 PM »

R U funnin' ME?

??

wwwarbird · « **Reply #280 on:** January 16, 2012, 05:15:31 PM »

Quote from: Mark Scarborough on January 16, 2012, 01:26:10 PM

BTW,, guess what airplane now has parts on my bench,, being sanded,,

UM UM UM UM, WAIT A MINUTE, COULD IT BE???!!!

Mark Scarborough · « **Reply #281 on:** January 16, 2012, 06:13:41 PM »

wayne,, nope, I wasnt talking to you,, just go back to sleep,,, LOL

yeah, I actually got some sanding done last night, watching the football games

wwwarbird · « **Reply #282 on:** January 16, 2012, 07:44:18 PM »

Ok, I won't tell anyone.

Randy Powell · « **Reply #283 on:** January 16, 2012, 08:42:10 PM »

OK, airframe is sanded and has two coats of clear on it. Progress.

Bill Little · « **Reply #284 on:** January 17, 2012, 11:02:25 AM »

Brother Randy, it sure is looking sweet! That is one of my "more favorite" models that you have done. You are doing it proud!

BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM

Mark Scarborough · « **Reply #285 on:** January 17, 2012, 11:28:49 AM »

@ Bill
yeah but I bet his doesnt get to wear fishnet stockings like MY Avenger did,,

hmm thinking to myself here, mine is heavier,, wearing fishnets,, ok this is bad,,

anyway, Shultzie will probably have a caniption fit when both our Avengers show up at a contest together,, LOL,, that alone will be worth the effort,,

Randy, I bet you are just itching to get sanding between those ribs huh LOL

Bill Little · « **Reply #286 on:** January 17, 2012, 12:00:27 PM »

Quote from: Mark Scarborough on January 17, 2012, 11:28:49 AM

@ Bill
yeah but I bet his doesnt get to wear fishnet stockings like MY Avenger did,,

hmm thinking to myself here, mine is heavier,, wearing fishnets,, ok this is bad,,

anyway, Shultzie will probably have a caniption fit when both our Avengers show up at a contest together,, LOL,, that alone will be worth the effort,,

Randy, I bet you are just itching to get sanding between those ribs huh LOL

Hi Mark,

Better have the EMTs on site for Schultzie!

Between the ribs: I suspect Randy will use 0000 steel wool...........

BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM

Mark Scarborough · « **Reply #287 on:** January 17, 2012, 12:19:01 PM »

probably so,, but I could not get that to work to my satisfaction,, perhaps me needs education? LOL
Is ti done yet Randy?

Shultzie · « **Reply #288 on:** January 17, 2012, 03:51:16 PM »

Quote from: Bill Little on January 17, 2012, 12:00:27 PM

Hi Mark,

Better have the EMTs on site for Schultzie!

BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM

"EMTZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ON SITE!

Randy Powell · « **Reply #289 on:** January 17, 2012, 04:24:17 PM »

I've pretty much finalized the paint scheme and it certainly won't be as involved as Mark's was (though Mark's is gorgeous). It will be pearl white with red and blue trim. I'm thinking about doing something with the fin ans sub-rudder but I haven't decided what yet. Whatever it is (checkerboard, stars, something) it will be subtle. Like white with a touch of gunmetal metallic or something. Probably get a bit of black outline on the trim (maybe) and perhaps some yellow highlight, but that is less likely. The basic paint scheme will be pretty simple and along the lines of Donnie's original all white Avenger.

Hey Mark, maybe you can build another one and call it the E-Venger.

Mark Scarborough · « **Reply #290 on:** January 17, 2012, 04:49:39 PM »

E-venger,, hmm
well I will neither confirm or deny that I have considered building another Avenger,,

Of course I should likely finish up the ongoing projects ,, otherwise Wayne may come knock on my door,, LOL

wwwarbird · « **Reply #291 on:** January 17, 2012, 06:18:05 PM »

Knock-Knock...

Bill Little · « **Reply #292 on:** January 17, 2012, 07:32:11 PM »

Quote from: Shultzie on January 17, 2012, 03:51:16 PM

"EMTZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ON SITE!

Just looking out for you, Brother Donaldo. With the gorgeous builds by Mark and Randy (I already know it will look flawless) both staring at you, it could get intense!

Bill

Shultzie · « **Reply #293 on:** January 17, 2012, 08:13:56 PM »

Randy..
Those paint schemes of yours...especially with your gift minds eyeballs...in working with graphics...IS SECOND TA NO ONE! JUST THE FACTS!!! MAN!

HEY GUYS...
DUE TO THIS MASS SNOWSTORM BEARING DOWN ON US BY MORNING...THIS MAY BE THE LAST POSTS FOR A WHILE BEFORE WE CAN DIG OUR SELVES OUT OF THE SNOW DRIFTS AND THAW OUT FROM OUR NEAR 0 TEMPS. HOPE WE DON'T LOSE OUR POWER OR TOO MANY TREES FROM THE 60 MPH WINDS HEADING DOWN FROM "THE BERING SEA!!!

BYE THE WAY...THIS NEW WINDOW'S 7 INFESTED GRAHICS PROGRAMS ON MY FANCY NEW GATEWAY PUTER' REALLY SUCKS....COMPARED TO MY OLD EZ TO USE XP WINDOWS PROGRAMS

Randy Powell · « **Reply #294 on:** January 17, 2012, 09:21:12 PM »

Donnie,

Yea, not to bad on the cold and snow right now, but the prediction for tomorrow is 9-12 inches but the wind warning is less. I agree with Donnie, hope we don't lose power. If there's a foot of snow out there tomorrow, I will likely stay right here.

Mark Scarborough · « **Reply #295 on:** January 17, 2012, 11:13:27 PM »

sheesh, a foot,, well I guess we are used to it over here, LOL, My biggest problem is drifting, my 45 mile jaunt to work in the morning should be interesting,, across the rolling Palouse hills, it drifts pretty good. Some mornings we only get a couple inches of snow, but the drifts will be a couple feet thick from the funneling between the hilocks and cuts.
Tomorrow could be really entertaining since we are supposed to get up to a foot, with winds in excess of 25 mph,, wo hoo, Maybe I will get to stay home too,, LOL

You guys over there be carefull, It really sounds like its going to be VERY unpleasant on the west side,,

Hey Randy, this is how the Cougs get revenge for beating us LOL,,,,we send our snow over there

Randy Powell · « **Reply #296 on:** January 18, 2012, 10:00:38 AM »

Mark,

Yea, I posted a pic on the open forum. About 13 inches and it's still snowing like crazy. My office is open in Tacoma with folks that are within a few blocks, but they plan to close up soon. The problem isn't the snow, per se. I lived in snow country a long time and used to tootle off to work with 3 feet on the ground. But here there are limited snow plows and sand trucks, the roads are crowned for rain and the ditches on the side of the roads are deep for rain drainage. The other issue right now is that this snow is very wet. It's 100% humidity and windy so the trees are breaking and we have a couple of trees down on the road out of here. Luckily, my mountain man neighbor is out there with his man chain saw and is busily cutting up with trees so I should be able to get out of here and at least down to the store in a bit.

What fun.

Randy Powell · « **Reply #297 on:** January 20, 2012, 01:59:53 PM »

I'm think of a paint scheme something along these lines (pic posted by Yves Fernandez on facebook the other day). Not just like this, but similar in combination with Donnie's original scheme.

Bill Little · « **Reply #298 on:** January 20, 2012, 03:21:29 PM »

Quote from: Randy Powell on January 20, 2012, 01:59:53 PM

I'm think of a paint scheme something along these lines (pic posted by Yves Fernandez on facebook the other day). Not just like this, but similar in combination with Donnie's original scheme.

I just have this odd feeling that whatever you come up with will be killer.

BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM

wwwarbird · « **Reply #299 on:** January 21, 2012, 07:20:30 PM »

We can all bet that there is no way this thing is going to get finished without getting "Randy-ized" to some extent.