Author Topic: vintage stunt (Read 2806 times)

Steven Kientz · « **on:** April 15, 2008, 06:46:05 PM »

Finally got around to cropping photos. Enjoy !

Steven Kientz · « **Reply #1 on:** April 15, 2008, 06:47:43 PM »

Once more.

Bill Little · « **Reply #2 on:** April 15, 2008, 07:01:12 PM »

Hi Steve,

Thanks for those pictures!

The bottom one, white and blue trim USA-1, is Billy's FIRST one! And it is before he cut the big scallop in the rudder/fin. That picture verifies the USA-1 as pre 1970. And Billy told me years ago that he cut the rear end before '69 was over, and had a *dated* picture to prove it.

One of them looks very *Kostecky"ish"* (MACHS NA)

Bill

Shultzie · « **Reply #3 on:** April 15, 2008, 07:25:50 PM »

Quote from: Bill Little on April 15, 2008, 07:01:12 PM

Hi Steve,

Thanks for those pictures!

The bottom one, white and blue trim USA-1, is Billy's FIRST one! And it is before he cut the big scallop in the rudder/fin. That picture verifies the USA-1 as pre 1970. And Billy told me years ago that he cut the rear end before '69 was over, and had a *dated* picture to prove it.

One of them looks very *Kostecky"ish"* (MACHS NA)

Bill

I took slides of this model Of Bill's model...that shows that that white finish has the most interesting "screen like silver mesh lace" airbrushed paint pattern on that wing of his that was sooooooooooo artistically clever.
I took a close up slide photo of the wing that showed the detail...
Although Bill flew that Big Red Aries thingeee' in 68------I could swear it was at Olatha 68 nats that I took those slides?

Beautiful beautiful paint job...soooooooooo tasteeeeee'!!!

Thanks for posting these STEVE...UHHH KEEP THOSE OLD COLLECTOR PHOTOS COMIN'

Bill Little · « **Reply #4 on:** April 15, 2008, 07:28:46 PM »

OK< Donaldo,

Produce those close ups of that USA-1 wing! That paint scheme disappeared with the huge chunk of rudder (and refinish)!

Shultzie · « **Reply #5 on:** April 15, 2008, 08:18:41 PM »

Quote from: Bill Little on April 15, 2008, 07:28:46 PM

OK< Donaldo,

Produce those close ups of that USA-1 wing! That paint scheme disappeared with the huge chunk of rudder (and refinish)!

My pleasure.....if my cheapo' H PeePee scanner will be good enough...otherwise I may have to take um down to my camera shop.

U ASKED FOR IT BILL....
I dug that old TRASHED EPSON OUT OF THE DUMPSTER...sorry for the crappolddo' scan jobs but perhaps if we look carefully....you can see the beautiful laced-airbrushed silver hatching that Bill so artfully created on this beautiful USA-1.
(Wonder what kind of scanner or process was used on the above posts? WOW! OUTSTANDING PRINTS FROM SLIDES...

Dennis Adamisin · « **Reply #6 on:** April 16, 2008, 04:07:59 AM »

"Machs Na" is Big Art's 1969 NATs plane. Around 620 squares, McCoy 40 power, bicycle landing gear with wing tip outriggers. I think I have a couple other pix somewhere...

Shultzie · « **Reply #7 on:** April 16, 2008, 10:27:51 AM »

Quote from: Dennis Adamisin on April 16, 2008, 04:07:59 AM

"Machs Na" is Big Art's 1969 NATs plane. Around 620 squares, McCoy 40 power, bicycle landing gear with wing tip outriggers. I think I have a couple other pix somewhere...

Great looking cowling and business end on Art's "Machs Na" (tell me bout' that name?)
bye the way.....beautifully sculpted body...and hey gang!!!

CHECK OUT THOSE COUNTER BALANCED ELEVATORS!!!

Steven Kientz · « **Reply #8 on:** April 16, 2008, 03:24:07 PM »

Schultzie
As far as a home scanner I have a Dell. To take the slides to CD I went to Cord Camera in Plainfield, Indiana. They do a very good job.Sparky has a copy of the CD,maybe some way to make them available ? Proceeds to Stunthangar.com. My father took these slides originally, I'm sure he would be OK with that. He always said that C/L was by far the friendliest hobby he had ever been involved with. His stepfather wasn't a flier, but always made sure he had a way to and from practicing or a contests. Many C/l fliers of years past helped him, so I'm sure he would be fine with the use of these photos.
Ok, enough talking on with the photos.

Steven Kientz · « **Reply #9 on:** April 16, 2008, 03:38:01 PM »

Shultzie,
These are for you.

Dennis Adamisin · « **Reply #10 on:** April 16, 2008, 04:34:00 PM »

"Machs Na translates to "try & copy this" or Imitate this. The words were inscribed on a cathedral in Switzerland by the architect.

Founds some more pix. It was difficult to get a good picture of it - Dad used pearl in all the colors and it always seemed to glare and burn out the pix.

1st pix is a 3/4 shot that shows the cheek cowls that enclosed the McCoy 40. Incidently the canopy (wrapped celluloid) was tinted black not painted.

2nd pix is from an polaroid, it has darkened so I tried touching it up. Anywho its a reasonable plan view shot.

Whenever we show off a pix of Dad from back then, we say this is "Big Art" when he was still "Medium Art". This pix came from Wynn Paul and shows the curvaceous fuselage (guess why we called it the Banana or the Guppy!) and the tandem landing gear with wing tip skids. The landing gear were each dual wheel bogeys on spring loaded shock absorbing gear.

Last pix is another one from Wynn, taken at the '69 NATs. This one shows Dad with the Machs Na and LeRoy Guenther with his Galaxy - ANOTHER bird that soon to be documented!

Randy Powell · « **Reply #11 on:** April 16, 2008, 04:36:03 PM »

Ok, so what is the blue one? I really like it.

Shultzie · « **Reply #12 on:** April 16, 2008, 04:54:58 PM »

Quote from: Steven Kientz on April 16, 2008, 03:38:01 PM

Shultzie,
These are for you.

WOW STEVE....
THANKS..THAT BRINGS BACK THE WEIRDEST MEMORIES....for example:
Note the missing nose wheel pant on my Sting Ray and the hassles it caused when one of our fellow competitors filed a complaint that my first flight should have been disqualifed due to the fact that the wheel pant that was blown apart of my first qualifying flight...pieces of it kept falling off during the flight.
Perhaps I should have not given the signal to the Navy judges...but my take off was really an exceptional one..plus my two level laps were on rails...I had good morning air and didn't want to waste flight time (due to the heavy upcoming schedule) and why make every one wait...so I gave the signal and put in a good decent first flight.
Later on in the afternoon....THE WIND CAME UP....and along with it...scores started to go down and then this one individual, put in a protest?
Why??? Hummm? In the end...it really didn't matter. However after much discussion the contest director convinced this gent that his protest would be IN VAIN, since neither his or my 2nd flight in that high afternoon wind would never be good enough to out fly any of top qualifiers anyhoooooo?
Sorry for the rant...
That photo of the Sting Ray must have been taken just after I borrowed a locking wheel collar from BIG ART...and used his brand new little screwdriver...that I had forgotten to return to him.
I didn't know that I had STOLEN it until I got back from the nats..
I called ART and made my confessions....
Come to think about it......I STILL HAVE THAT NICE LITTLE SCREW DRIVER IN MY OLD NATS FLIGHT BOX!

Thanks for the memories...STEVE!

They are so precious to all us old UKIESTUNTGRUNTFARTS...
WOW! THOSE SCANS OF YOURS ARE OF SUCH HIGH QUALITY...KEEP THEM COMING!
AHHH! Those were the days my friend....(that reminds me of a song!! Opps! never mind

Shultzie · « **Reply #13 on:** April 16, 2008, 05:13:39 PM »

Quote from: Randy Powell on April 16, 2008, 04:36:03 PM

Ok, so what is the blue one? I really like it.

Jack Sheek's beautiful 68 Olatha nats entry. In 69 he had that beautiful little FlyBaby.
I have slides of that NAVY BLUE model that the NAVY JUDGES WERE DROOLING OVER ALL DAY LONG!
TALK ABOUT GAMESMANSHIP!

Shultzie · « **Reply #14 on:** April 16, 2008, 05:24:30 PM »

Quote from: Dennis Adamisin on April 16, 2008, 04:34:00 PM

"Machs Na translates to "try & copy this" or Imitate this. The words were inscribed on a cathedral in Switzerland by the architect.

Founds some more pix. It was difficult to get a good picture of it - Dad used pearl in all the colors and it always seemed to glare and burn out the pix.

1st pix is a 3/4 shot that shows the cheek cowls that enclosed the McCoy 40. Incidently the canopy (wrapped celluloid) was tinted black not painted.

2nd pix is from an polaroid, it has darkened so I tried touching it up. Anywho its a reasonable plan view shot.

Whenever we show off a pix of Dad from back then, we say this is "Big Art" when he was still "Medium Art". This pix came from Wynn Paul and shows the curvaceous fuselage (guess why we called it the Banana or the Guppy!) and the tandem landing gear with wing tip skids. The landing gear were each dual wheel bogeys on spring loaded shock absorbing gear.

Last pix is another one from Wynn, taken at the '69 NATs. This one shows Dad with the Machs Na and LeRoy Guenther with his Galaxy - ANOTHER bird that soon to be documented!

Here is a color shot of LeRoy Guenther's amazingly detailed beautiful entry in color

Shultzie · « **Reply #15 on:** April 16, 2008, 05:30:06 PM »

Check out Jerry Phelps....beautiful 68 entries. Best of both worlds...JET STYLE AND TRADITIONAL
WHAT A CRAFTSMANS...AND SUPA GIFTED STUNTGRUNTER.
SAD TO SAY...HIS MOMMEEE' DRESSES HIM PRETTY FUNNY?

HEY LEO...IF YOU ARE LURKING NOTICE GERALD'S LEADOUTS! THEY ARE ON THE WRONG SIDE ALSO!!!

Dennis Adamisin · « **Reply #16 on:** April 16, 2008, 05:36:23 PM »

Roger that Blue Jet - the AMA number confirms the ID! I seem to recall that it had a rib about every 1/2" and the metallic blue just sparkled. Of all the airplanes Jack published - why not this one???

Donaldo, I THINK that it was at the '69 NATs - like the other 3 Steve K posted.

I will risk swelling Schultzie's head by publicly stating that his Sting Rays were on a SHORT list of my favorite birds ever - with or without wheel pant!

BTW the white bird with orange & black trim is on a list that Wynn Paul has not been able to identify... Anyone out there know?

Shultzie · « **Reply #17 on:** April 16, 2008, 05:42:26 PM »

Quote from: Dennis Adamisin on April 16, 2008, 05:36:23 PM

Roger that Blue Jet - the AMA number confirms the ID! I seem to recall that it had a rib about every 1/2" and the metallic blue just sparkled. Of all the airplanes Jack published - why not this one??? Donaldo, I THINK that it was at the '69 NATs - like the other 3 Steve K posted.

I will risk swelling Schultzie's head by publicly stating that his Sting Rays were on a SHORT list of my favorite birds ever - with or without wheel pant!

BTW the white bird with orange & black trim is on a list that Wynn Paul has not been able to identify... Anyone out there know?

In 69 if my demented dumolddo mind serves me.....BOTH HE AND LEW McFARLAND FLEW SEMI SCALE MODELS??? Lew's Acromasta' and Jack had that beautiful little FLY BABY?
(its been sooooooooooo damned long ago although it was either 68 or 69 either way?
I'll dig out that old slide which has the date on the slide frame...
I couldn't find the one with Jack holding this beautiful Fly Baby...but here is the scan of both Lew Mc and Jack's planes on the tarmac. I thought this was 69?

Dennis Adamisin · « **Reply #18 on:** April 16, 2008, 06:26:05 PM »

Idunno, they say the memory is the second thing to go (I forget the first!) but I placd Jacks Fly Baby at either the 1970 or 1971 NATs in Chi-town???

BTW here's another pretty-OK Sting Ray...!

Shultzie · « **Reply #19 on:** April 16, 2008, 06:33:00 PM »

Quote from: Dennis Adamisin on April 16, 2008, 06:26:05 PM

Idunno, they say the memory is the second thing to go (I forget the first!) but I placd Jacks Fly Baby at either the 1970 or 1971 NATs in Chi-town???

BTW here's another pretty-OK Sting Ray...!

NOW THAT'S THE REAL THING~~~~ BEEEEEUUUUUTTTEEEFUL STING RAY BY THE MASTA!Dennis...
I took that photo of Lew's model myself...with my old 35mm camera...and sadly I couldn't get my butt to the 70 or 71 nats?
Hummm?
Weird how memories dim....along with my old slides which seem to be in pretty bad shape also...but compared to my 69 year old body...neva mind...(that is the thing I miss the most?)

Shultzie · « **Reply #20 on:** April 16, 2008, 06:38:10 PM »

Quote from: Dennis Adamisin on April 16, 2008, 06:26:05 PM

Idunno, they say the memory is the second thing to go (I forget the first!) but I placd Jacks Fly Baby at either the 1970 or 1971 NATs in Chi-town???

BTW here's another pretty-OK Sting Ray...!

AND THIS ONE LOOKS LIKE A CLONE? Did Bob learn how to Clone his beautiful STING RAYS?

Dennis Adamisin · « **Reply #21 on:** April 16, 2008, 06:50:21 PM »

Yeah I think Bob stored his 'Rays in a dark closet, played some Barry White music and let them... make more Sting Rays!

HOWEVER

His did NOT have PINK canopies!

BTW, didn't you have a 'Ray with 2 pilot heads?

Steven Kientz · « **Reply #22 on:** April 16, 2008, 07:00:55 PM »

I think I have a picture of the blue galaxy, nope I have two! I love the detailed cockpit.

Steven Kientz · « **Reply #23 on:** April 16, 2008, 07:09:00 PM »

Will post 2 more today, have several photos left. One is of a biplane takeoff that will make those 3d r/c flier envious. Stay tuned!

Dennis Adamisin · « **Reply #24 on:** April 16, 2008, 08:11:41 PM »

WAY TO GO STEVE!!!

I set a little goal for myself to document the DEEEtroit area stunters from the Classic era that I was familiar with: Leroy "Gunny" Gunther. was like another member of the family. He used to spend a lot of time at our house building - and he built a bunch!

Here's another one of Gunny's bird - actually pre-dates the Galaxy by a year. The United-7 started out as a plans built bird (see if you can guess, the wing and stab are stock) but then he changed the top block, cowl, fin and several other things - in short he "united" features from 7 airplanes - but for the life of me I do not remeber which 7!

Shultzie · « **Reply #25 on:** April 17, 2008, 09:48:12 AM »

Quote from: Dennis Adamisin on April 16, 2008, 08:11:41 PM

WAY TO GO STEVE!!!

I set a little goal for myself to document the DEEEtroit area stunters from the Classic era that I was familiar with: Leroy "Gunny" Gunther. was like another member of the family. He used to spend a lot of time at our house building - and he built a bunch!

Here's another one of Gunny's bird - actually pre-dates the Galaxy by a year. The United-7 started out as a plans built bird (see if you can guess, the wing and stab are stock) but then he changed the top block, cowl, fin and several other things - in short he "united" features from 7 airplanes - but for the life of me I do not remeber which 7!

Tell me more about Guther....is he still with us...and what is he doing these days....

Thanks Steve and Dennis...for your great old photos...and STEVE~ WOW! NICE SHOTS...

Dennis Adamisin · « **Reply #26 on:** April 17, 2008, 01:38:17 PM »

Quote from: Shultzie on April 17, 2008, 09:48:12 AM

Tell me more about Guther....is he still with us...and what is he doing these days....

I'm afraid we lost Gunny about ten years ago. He was in pretty poor health at the end too.

Gunny stop flying Stunt around 1972. He got into trains: N gauge then HO-Narrow gauge and built some phenomenal rolling stock and layout pieces. He dabbled at building some Giant scale RC but I don't think his heart was really in it.

My Dad has Gunny's Testors Best Finish Spitfire (1970) and Nobler (1971). The Nobler was built with a Typhoon wing, and a OS 35S. It weighed about 40 oz, and won the Testor's award. I also don't think it was flown 2-dozen times...

He built a LOT of airplanes that would be great draws in Classic: the Spitfire, the 46-size Talon, a Miss Cosmic Wind (my design!) the Galaxy and the United-7 to name a few...

Dave Adamisin · « **Reply #27 on:** April 17, 2008, 04:11:58 PM »

I beat on the Poloroid...... a bit. The plane is more visable but I'm afraid I couldn't do anything with dad.............

Steven Kientz · « **Reply #28 on:** April 17, 2008, 05:23:23 PM »

I've cropped a few more:

Steven Kientz · « **Reply #29 on:** April 17, 2008, 05:28:10 PM »

I forgot about the Apache.The second photo is a very tail heavy biplane at an unknown Navy base(So. cal?)

Shultzie · « **Reply #30 on:** April 17, 2008, 05:34:04 PM »

WOW! STEVE...
68-69 for the nats...really showed off some great looking models...AGAIN!!! GREAT SHOTS.

Love your shot of Roger Barrett's beautiful PlayBoy.....but here is a photo that I took....
after the tarmac-contact!!!

First shot...BEFORE..
My shot afterwards....

Steven Kientz · « **Reply #31 on:** April 18, 2008, 04:14:41 PM »

He definitely took home less than he came with. I have days like that, thats why I still fly profile homebuilt junk. Alot less crying when mine go in.

Steve

Author Topic: vintage stunt (Read 2806 times)

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