Author Topic: Too much fun to not have one or two. (Read 17401 times)

greg maclachlan · « **Reply #50 on:** October 26, 2011, 01:59:35 PM »

Ty, 2 at a time is a great idea! Looking good. Wx looks nice outside. (39 degrees today and dropping)
John Kelly, how 'bout some more info on your Slob? 1960? Geez, we're all a bunch of geezers now....I'm AMA 14879.
Greg in Anchorage

John Kelly · « **Reply #51 on:** October 26, 2011, 02:54:49 PM »

Hey Greg, Just got back from FMP. I flew my BI-SLOB for the 1st time in about 5 years! Bill Suarez was one of the last to fly it back then. I had to laugh when he called out a lap time of 5 and a half minutes after my flight. I do like to keep them downwind.

Mark Misegadis · « **Reply #52 on:** October 26, 2011, 04:33:11 PM »

Wow Ty, Those Slobs look great!
Im in Colorado and I am thinking right now a set of SKIs sounds like a good plan!
Mark

wwwarbird · « **Reply #53 on:** October 26, 2011, 08:02:02 PM »

Lookin' good! Thanks for the pics Ty.

Clancy Arnold · « **Reply #54 on:** October 27, 2011, 07:22:25 AM »

BiSlobs need more power!!
Just ask Dan Banjock. His BiSlob is powered by an OS 3000! He flew it at the Brodak Fly-In in June and it pleased the crowd every time Dan put it in the air.

I think he built it slightly oversize. About twice normal size. It still flew like a Fox 35 powered one but his arm got longer the more he flew it.
Clancy

Mark Misegadis · « **Reply #55 on:** October 27, 2011, 01:37:04 PM »

Ty,

What are you going to do to fuelproof the engine and fuel tank bays?

Mark

Rafael Gonzalez · « **Reply #56 on:** October 27, 2011, 04:03:41 PM »

Quote from: Ty Marcucci on October 14, 2011, 09:11:55 PM

Actually I HATE Fox .35's. Wish I'd never met one. BUT I have two and will use them on this more than appropriate airplane. If God made stunt engines, he would have made the OS series. I will us my OS .35-S in place of any Fox any day.

My friend bought a bi-slop (

) and after he bought it, found one at a yard sale for $20... (brodack's kit)

I saw him fly one a couple of years ago and I could not get the grin out of my face after he landed. I almost (P'd) my pants watching him fly it. He gave me the Bi to build as a gift. I've never flown one and I have an old 35 to put in it. I've never had any luck with the F35. I am with you... " I hate them". Had a ME109 in the late 70's that I built from scratch... Looked at all sort of photos and paint schemes in books ( no internet at that time) Bought a Squadron book, I don't even know if they still are around. Painted the ME109 as accurate as possible to the photos. I was very proud. The first flight on the old Oppaloka (excuse the spelling) air base parking area, it came down almost on my head on the first wing over

. I have a photo somewhere that shows the plane on fire... Has anyone ever done that?

Jim Kraft · « **Reply #57 on:** October 27, 2011, 04:26:47 PM »

Lookin good Ty; You are almost to the flying stage. I have found that clear dope seems to be more fuel proof than epoxy for me anyway. I have done both, and the epoxy seems to turn kind of brown, and gets kind of rubbery, where dope seems to weather the fuel just fine. Maybe I use the wrong kind of epoxy. Do put plenty of clear on the wing covering, because they really get soaked up with oil, and mine have both leaked oil into the covering. That is with Polyspan on one, and Sig Koverall on the other one.

John Kelly · « **Reply #58 on:** October 27, 2011, 05:49:44 PM »

Credit Where Credit Is ... Ronnie! Here's a pic of the first flyers I met. If you flew at Salisbury Park, now Eisenhower Park on Long Island New York in the late fifties, into the sixties you had the pleasure of knowing these guys. I met the Meyers family in 1958 when I walked into their backyard when I heard an engine run on the way home from church one Sunday morn. Art was starting the engine on a Waco bipe as Artie held on to it and his mom, Ev watched. She saw the look on my face and asked Artie to take me down the basement and show me their planes. After seeing the planes I was hooked.they told me to go to Field 6 at the park on Sunday so I went home told my Mom and my Dad and my brother Al. The rest is History. SLOBS,BI-SLOBS,WIND FLYING,Henry Weeks flying inverted 2 feet off the ground while lying on his back.Add Jean Pailet,Bob Miller,Bob Sylvia,Gene Schaffer,Rudy,my brother Al yours truly...the youngest member,and you had the LONG ISLAND WINGMASTERS.(AKA SLOBS. We wore white pyth helmets with SLOBS painted on the back.My dad was a design engineer and bought me a little Handy Andy mechanical drafting set that I used to copy the SLOB templates with.

John Kelly · « **Reply #59 on:** October 27, 2011, 05:53:10 PM »

...oh yea, and don't forget...

John Kelly · « **Reply #60 on:** October 27, 2011, 06:20:44 PM »

Inboard wing is 3 inches (one bay) longer than outboard. Three center ribs and 2 (1 each) tip ribs were/are 1/8th balsa. Same l.e. and t.e. and spars. Ribs are a little longer,I'll check just how much.Sometimes the memory... I like the tips,usually put them, (always) on BI-SLOBS also.

John Kelly · « **Reply #61 on:** October 27, 2011, 06:40:16 PM »

There were LITTLE SLOBS too

Tom Niebuhr · « **Reply #62 on:** October 28, 2011, 08:20:16 AM »

John,
Those pictures sure bring back memories. I knew most of the "Wingmasters" Seeing Henry Week's beautiful "T-Bird" and Artie's "New Yorker" in one picture is a treat. We still have to work on the "New Yorker article.

It is a tribute to Ronnie that the "BiSlob" is among the most popular airplanes ever.

Check the Stunt Hanger message that I sent to you a few days ago.

john e. holliday · « **Reply #63 on:** October 28, 2011, 09:12:05 AM »

Other than there being two wings on a Bi-Slob, what is the difference in the two planes? Is the fuse and one wing the same size?

Darkstar1 · « **Reply #64 on:** October 28, 2011, 09:20:28 AM »

This beast flown by Dan at the Nats should equal about 20 Slobs!

Chuck Feldman · « **Reply #65 on:** October 28, 2011, 12:06:21 PM »

Hello TY,

Looked for you at Huntersville but you where not there. Fox 35 is the stock power plant for the
Bi-slob. Mine is done and I have flown it three or four times. Yes it is different from the norm.
I think it is possible to do many crazy things with these BS's once you get used to what they call the flight envelope. I would like to see yours done in NAVY colors. How about it?

wwwarbird · « **Reply #66 on:** October 28, 2011, 08:49:34 PM »

Quote from: Ty Marcucci on October 28, 2011, 07:51:43 PM

More photos, and just to jerk a chain or two, I am the BOM. No kit or ARFs here. 85% scrap bin wood.

HA, long live the builders!

Go CARDS!!!

Rafael Gonzalez · « **Reply #67 on:** October 28, 2011, 10:04:02 PM »

Nice job Ty

Rafael Gonzalez · « **Reply #68 on:** October 28, 2011, 10:07:56 PM »

Beatiful work

John Kelly · « **Reply #69 on:** October 28, 2011, 10:36:49 PM »

Hey Tom... Glad you liked the pic.'s While getting ready to leave FMP during BRODAK WEEK, a car pulled up and "Champione" said "I want you to meet this guy,he's Rich Osterle an old combat guy".He introduced us and Rich said he dropped by to see is anyone wanted to go to BRODAK's.He said the guy he was supposed to meet there and share a room with was going to come up in his motor home with his Lady instead.He mentioned the guy was BOB SYLVIA! I hadn't seen BOB in decades since we were in the WINGMASTERS but have thought about him many times over the years. I jumped at the opportunity , went home and told my wife and family I'd see them in a couple of days. We met up with Bob and his Lady had lunch together and got to hang out awhile. He hasn't changed a bit, a truly great guy.He remembered that particular contest ,he said because a combat ship cut loose and flew into the lobby of the building. While at BRODAKS another highlight was to get to talk with Captain SILHAVY again who I hadn't seen since I met him at Willow Grove in 1961 when he was flying his light blue NOBLER. What a Pleasure. I missed checking for messages (as usual) but I had already downloaded your pic.s,as I always do.It seems like yesterday when you called and told me about doing the bottom. When U comin' to Joisey to fly dat big airplane Mistah?

John Kelly · « **Reply #70 on:** October 28, 2011, 11:21:42 PM »

Hi john e., I'd like to start by saying Thanks to Greg in Anchorage and Yourself (one of my fav. posters to read) for showing some interest in Ronnie's SLOB. For me it's one of those "gotta have one" planes. It "R"-evolved into, as everyone with a sence of humor knows...the BI-SLOB. The SLOB has a 50 inch wingspan, 24" inboard, 21" outboard + 2 and a half inch tips. The ribs are 8 and a half inches, the Original BI was 8 and one eighth. The tails were the same all 3 sixteenths soft balsa, stab, elev., fin, dorsal and rudder. SLOBS tail moment was an inch longer, the nose about a quarter inch longer. Flap chord is 1 and a half inch. BI was 1 and 3 sixteenths. wing is sheeted from quarter square spars forward. Flaps didn't go to end of wing.

John Kelly · « **Reply #71 on:** October 28, 2011, 11:28:26 PM »

...oops

John Kelly · « **Reply #72 on:** October 28, 2011, 11:56:04 PM »

and some REAL...

John Kelly · « **Reply #73 on:** October 29, 2011, 12:00:36 AM »

...G'night

john e. holliday · « **Reply #74 on:** October 29, 2011, 09:46:08 AM »

Thanks for the memories, even tho there are only a few I have met in my trips across this great country going to the NATS. A lot of history in those photos.

Jim Kraft · « **Reply #75 on:** October 30, 2011, 04:52:25 PM »

Hey Ty. You can taxi Frick while flying Frack with those engines. OOORRRR, you could use your Foxes, and do the Jim Walker thing flying two at a time. I like them both. Just remember they are Slobs when flying, and start with about 3 ounces of fuel on your first flight. They have a habbit of wearing you down by the end of the tank.

wwwarbird · « **Reply #76 on:** October 30, 2011, 05:19:49 PM »

WOW! That was fast!!!

How about sticking a Dynajet between the gear legs?

Jim Kraft · « **Reply #77 on:** October 30, 2011, 05:25:13 PM »

Good idea Wayne; Jimmy Franklin style. Woo! Hoo!

wwwarbird · « **Reply #78 on:** October 30, 2011, 05:26:51 PM »

Just what I was thinkin'!

Jim Kraft · « **Reply #79 on:** October 30, 2011, 05:37:27 PM »

He could put a Jetex on the OK '099 powerd one.

john e. holliday · « **Reply #80 on:** October 31, 2011, 08:26:26 AM »

They are looking better. I used to tell people that once you learn how to run a Fox you can run anything.

Also nothing sounds like an old Fox or McCoy run they are run right.

Tom Niebuhr · « **Reply #81 on:** October 31, 2011, 12:33:09 PM »

Ty,
You are among the many who always have 5 or 6 airplanes under contruction at the same time. Now get those slobs in the air... You Slob!

John,
Good to see those pictures again. Seems to me that I might have sent some of them to you. #1 son Craig is a little older now, I have lost the excess pounds, but I look younger.... Ha Ha! I would not have recognized Henry Weeks.

I don't plan any trips to NJ for a while. Craig got 19" of snow over the weekend... Much too early for that.

I would love to see Bob Sylvia again. We used to all pile into his Ford Falcon to go to contests. I talked to Rich Osterle a few years ago. He was one of my best friends when we were in the Bronx. Miss seeing those guys. You all gotta come to Texas!

Bill Little · « **Reply #82 on:** November 01, 2011, 11:09:52 AM »

I just realized that I picked up a Brodak "Slob" kit at a meet a few years ago. $5 in the shrink wrap, I couldn't let that go by.

I have everything to make it a go, but this chemo is kicking my butt right now............

Big Bear

Mark Misegadis · « **Reply #83 on:** November 01, 2011, 01:06:54 PM »

I think Brodak may have been reading this thread.

I bought an ARC kit that arrived a week ago and have been covering it. On Saturday the UPS guy shows up and says.. HERE and hands me another Brodak box. Hmmmm So apparently due to a mistake (Or Maybe not!) I end up with a 2nd Bi-Slob ARC. I talked to Brodak on Monday and I paid for the 2nd plane.

So.. now I have "BI".... SLOBS.

Guess I better pick some colors for this 2nd one and get to work.

Mark

john e. holliday · « **Reply #84 on:** November 02, 2011, 05:56:07 AM »

Brodak is great about correcting mistakes, even if it is not theirs. I bought a kit that was supposed to bethe Original Veco Tomahawk that I flew as early teenager. Turns out the picture on the box was correct but the contents were not. I contacted Brodaks and within a couple of days a kit arrived with the original Tomahawk kit in it. I paid for the new kit and will build both in time as the new one is the one the son, JJ, won a prize with.

Mark Misegadis · « **Reply #85 on:** November 11, 2011, 10:06:19 AM »

Ty,

How are Frick and Frack?

Do you have the engines hung?

Mark

Tom Niebuhr · « **Reply #86 on:** November 11, 2011, 12:32:50 PM »

John Kelly,
Different subject, but you posted a picture with Henry Weeks. Here is Henry with his beautiful T'Bird at the 1961 (and last) Mirror Meet.

john e. holliday · « **Reply #87 on:** November 12, 2011, 07:47:14 AM »

They look too good to be Bi-Slobs.

Hope they fly as well as they look.

john e. holliday · « **Reply #88 on:** November 13, 2011, 07:12:45 AM »

Well I really like the lettering.

Mark Misegadis · « **Reply #89 on:** November 13, 2011, 08:12:01 AM »

They look Great to me Ty and most certainly from 58 feet! That will be your line length right?

Brodak is out of their tanks at the moment and the hobby stores here only have 4 oz and up so I may be building a tank for mine.

Mark

wwwarbird · « **Reply #90 on:** November 13, 2011, 10:25:14 AM »

Looks great! When ya gonna fly'em Ty?

wwwarbird · « **Reply #91 on:** November 13, 2011, 09:40:49 PM »

Don't most "Bi-Slobbers" use somewhere down around 52 foot lines? Seems to me like something shorter than normal for a .35 size plane would be best.

Tom Niebuhr · « **Reply #92 on:** November 14, 2011, 06:41:22 AM »

I use 55 ft. lines

john e. holliday · « **Reply #93 on:** November 14, 2011, 08:51:35 AM »

Mine fly good on 60 X .015 lines. Also Fox .35 Stunt for power with no muffler.

Jim Kraft · « **Reply #94 on:** November 14, 2011, 11:29:55 AM »

I fly mine on 52' eye to eye. That works well with my well worn Fox 35's. When the R/C guys are out and watching, I like to have the engine really rich, and when it finally gets off the ground I turn it inverted at about 2' high. Then let it drop back towards the ground. I always get noise from the gallery as they think I am in big trouble. Lots of fun.

greg maclachlan · « **Reply #95 on:** November 14, 2011, 02:29:19 PM »

I use 60 footers also. It's like flying a kite with a .35 on it.
Check out You-tube "Greg's Bi-slob."

wwwarbird · « **Reply #96 on:** November 14, 2011, 11:20:54 PM »

...and make sure you have a nice selection of carbon props handy too!

Mark Misegadis · « **Reply #97 on:** November 21, 2011, 11:54:57 AM »

Who out here is using the recommended Brodak 4 oz tank in their Bi Slob? I just bought a pair and they dont fit.

Mark

Harleyman · « **Reply #98 on:** November 21, 2011, 05:31:08 PM »

I am. You just need to do some creative Dremel-ling to the formers.

john e. holliday · « **Reply #99 on:** November 22, 2011, 05:42:54 AM »

I limited mine to what ever tank would fit. 4 ounces is an awful lot of fuel for a Fox .35 Stunt. I guess I don't fly it enough and get tired(lose concentration) before the tank runs out. I beleive it is about 3 ounces.