John Miller electric shock hands burned.

[Eric Viglione]

Folks, some of y'all just have no idea...

I met a guy at one of my clients who was a tree trimmer. He was trimming a tree next door to a power substation... The power arc'ed from a distance you would have thought was well safe away, and vaporized both arms up to his shoulders. I mean, gone, nowhere to be found. Poof! This is not stuff to be messed with people! It's amazing this guy is still alive. All they can figure is when his arms went poof so fast, that the circuit never passed through his heart or brain enough to kill him, since he was sweating profusely, it was an external event on his arms, wet skin, and the pole saw where the arc traveled through the arms and thats it. Of course he had some serious burns too... which again, cauterized the wound. *shudders*

Like I said before, the unlimited amperage on tap on a high voltage multi phase line is pretty much death incarnate. When I was a bench tech, the voltage coming off of fly-back transformer and a silicone tripler was nasty at 28KV! But it wasn't high current. I've been blown out of my chair back up against the wall, and embarrassed more than hurt, with a burn and muscle cramp or two... R/F and high freq stuff can be nasty too... drill a little hole right through your finger tip if you stick it in the wrong place. Then people would wonder why I liked such long test probes and I would still wrap the ends with just the points exposed, heh. Old Tube equipment with those large transformers and big caps and lot's of current in reserve and B+ at 400v can kill ya dead... much more so than most of todays low voltage computer equipment which is all 12v/5v DC, as long as you stay out of the AC side of the sealed factory power supply, which is no different than your wall plug and just as deadly. They're sealed for a reason, so don't go poking things in their trying to spin up your dead cooling fan, LOL.

Anyways, stay off the metal ladders and away from power lines folks, and hope John starts to recover real soon!

EricV

[Will Hinton]

Wow, Eric, you bring back a very unpleasant memory for me.  On the old Essex, I started to remove the cover from the power supply on an ARN 21 Tacan and put my finger in the plate cap!  wow!!  11.7K frequency riding on a 900 volt dc reference!  Little hole in my finger at the exit point?  You bet!  Headaches for three days the sick bay guys wouldn't give me anything for?  You bet.  They said any treatment could do me in because it had traveled through my body from finger tip to finger tip.
I was one blessed lucky dude to come through that one.
Heal fast, John.

[ChrisSarnowski]

Hi John,

Best wishes for a speedy recovery!

-Chris

[john e. holliday]

Try sticking your tongue across the terminals of the old 1 1/2 volt dry cell telephone battery sometime.

[wwwarbird]

Gordan,

Would it be possible to do make a contribution through Paypal? It's much more convenient for those who have it.

[Mike Lauerman]

John always spends time with wife Joey and me at the Golden State Champs in Clovis. We have him in our prayers for a quick recovery.

[Howard Rush]

Try sticking your tongue across the terminals of the old 1 1/2 volt dry cell telephone battery sometime.

It won't melt the ice on the pump handle.  It just makes that problem worse.

[builditright]

to contact John
call floor desk & ask to be connected to John Miller's room

801-581-2700

[Russ Danneman]

Gordan,

Would it be possible to do make a contribution through Paypal? It's much more convenient for those who have it.


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[Steve Thornton]

John,
I don't know you but I have learned some things from your posts, and thank you for sharing your skill. I do know some of these fine men sending you their prayers and comfort, and their high regard for you speaks volumes.
I have a friend, an electrician, who was electrocuted while removing the wiring from a machine shop lathe.  He was on a ladder when he slipped, grabbed an overhead water pipe, and was blown out of his jeans.  The ER Doc said his blood boiled and no chance of recovery or survival through the night.  That was 35 years, 3 kids, and 5 grandchildren ago and today he is as healthy as a horse.  Never take the offer of prayer lightly, we need it for lesser things than you are going through right now.  I will pray for your full and speedy recovery.
Steve Thornton

[Tom Niebuhr]

Gordon,
What is the latest on John? Can you give us an update, and the latest phone info to talk to him?
Thanks, Tom N

[Steve Helmick]

Good question, Tom. I promised to raffle off a NIB Tom Lay ST .60, and need to follow through on that. I talked to Gordan about it, and decided it would be good to let people rebuild their "mad money" stash for a bit, and it slipped through the cracks in my headbone. I could use guidance, as well as a sharp object to the rump. If I make the post, can I get a moderator to pin it to the top of the heap?  Steve

[Gordan Delaney]

The laytest on John is his skin graph has not been working for him. Three weeks ago they sowed his wrist to his stomach to try to get some good graphs. His spirits are OK but not as good as it was. I believe he goes back to surgery tomorrow or next week. He lost his phone to water as he bumped it into the garbage can which had water in it. I`ll see him tomorrow and let you all know how his doing.

Gordy