Control Line B29 Video

[Mike Griffin]

The Gentleman who is flying the B29 in the video is Ed Mason. I would like to build this model but do not know where to get plans for it.  I would like to get in touch with Mr. Mason if anyone knows him and could tell me how to get in touch with him I would greatly appreciate it.  Or, if anyone knows where I can get the plans for a B29 CL I would appreciate that too.



Thanks
Mike

[decamara]

That is COOL!

Reminds me of my grandfather Ralph Saldivar's B-29 when I was a kid



Doc

[Joejust]

There is a 3 page report  in the latest issue of Control Line World showing his plane being built. Of particvular interest to many is the  throttle system being used.  It starts with a basic 3-line bellcrank from Brodak and runs to each engine  in an unique way.
Joe Just

[Mike Griffin]

There is a 3 page report  in the latest issue of Control Line World showing his plane being built. Of particvular interest to many is the  throttle system being used.  It starts with a basic 3-line bellcrank from Brodak and runs to each engine  in an unique way.
Joe Just

Joe I do not take Control Line World anymore...is there contact information for Ed in the article?

Thanks

Mike

[Joejust]

Mike, NO, but check your PM
Joe

[Howard Rush]

You Tube shows a video of the same guy with a B-17.  Nice airplane, but the video showed no stunts.  I think a B-17 ought to do stunts.  The full-scale B-17 had a symmetrical airfoil. 

[Bill Little]

That is neat.  Four engine scale planes are always neat.  Of course the B-17 that Howard alludes to is Super neat!

BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM

[wwwarbird]

You Tube shows a video of the same guy with a B-17.  The full-scale B-17 had a symmetrical airfoil.  

 Yep, he's got a B-17 too which I think he's flown at Brodak. BTW Howard, the full scale B-17 actually has an asymmetrical airfoil.

 I met Ed and his wife at St. Louis in 2011, very nice people. I think the B-29 was built from scratch, not a kit.  

 Mike G.,

 Here is the Email that I have for them: diannaed@bellsouth.net

 And a few pics of the B-29 from St. Louis 2011...

[Bill Little]

Hi Wayne,

Paul said in some other post that he knew where I could get plans for the B-17.  Now THAT would be NEAT! (I even have (4) OS .15FPs!)

Bill

[Howard Rush]

BTW Howard, the full scale B-17 actually has an asymmetrical airfoil.

Nope, NACA 0018 at the root, 0010 at the tip: http://www.ae.illinois.edu/m-selig/ads/aircraft.html

[wwwarbird]

Nope, NACA 0018 at the root, 0010 at the tip: http://www.ae.illinois.edu/m-selig/ads/aircraft.html

 Hmm, I coulda swore...  

 I stand corrected.

[Mike Griffin]

Thank you Wayne...I really appreciate it.
Mike

[Allan Perret]

I have 4 Norvel .061's stached away for a B-17 project someday.  My Dad was a B-17 Bombadier, 33 combat missions.   I'm thinking something like a 75~80" wingspan, sound about right ?  Did not know it has symetrical airfoil, glad to hear that.   I would probably do it with elevator only, no flaps.  I would like to be able to do loops, wingovers, and inverted flight; but not interested in doing any of the square maneuvers. 

[Mike Griffin]

I would actually like to have plans for both..the B29 and B17.   

Mike

[john e. holliday]

Should be able to get contacts thru the AMA.

[Chris McMillin]

With a bit of knowledge the guy could trim that model out so he could hold it with one hand, the pull is ridiculous.
Chris...

[Fred Cronenwett]

Tony Nijhuis in the UK has a set of plans for a 72" B-17 that was designed for RC, but that can be easily converted to CL scale. What I find interesting is that on several of the multi-engine designs that Tony has he does not recommend glow engines. The cowls are so small on a  B-17 that any glow engine sticks out of the cowl.

His B-17 comes in at 6 lbs, 8 ounces and that is with electric. Put in electronic controls, and an adjustable leadout guide and you would be in business.

I have his plans for his Hawker Hurricane, they lack scale detail, but the outlines are correct enough to build a really nice scale model from for competition.

Fred C.

http://www.tonynijhuisdesigns.co.uk/boeingB17-72.htm

[Joseph Patterson]

     Well thanks for the the facts about the B-17 airfoil Howard. Never knew dat. Now I gotta ask, why was the symmetrical airfoil used instead of some other type that may have offered better performance(less drag-more lift-speed etc.).
     Doug 

[dave siegler]

Look down there is a b17 set up for 4 cox engines.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1265873&highlight=b+17&page=6

[Bill Little]

Look down there is a b17 set up for 4 cox engines.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1265873&highlight=b+17&page=6

Those are Hobby Helpers plans from Aug. 1963.  I still have the magazine!

It was the British NATS C/L winner.  Three pages of plans, one version has the option for throttles and retracts.  The other version omits these features.  45" WS, and (4) Cox Babe Bee on the original.

BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM

[Howard Rush]

Now I gotta ask, why was the symmetrical airfoil used instead of some other type that may have offered better performance(less drag-more lift-speed etc.).

I can't find anybody who knows.  We speculate that it might be OK for something that flies half of every flight empty. 

[John Rist]

Look down there is a b17 set up for 4 cox engines.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1265873&highlight=b+17&page=6

Wow wouldn't this be a great project for the new 1/2A at the nats.  3-line controll for retracts and flaps. Now that is cool.