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Offline Brad B

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cardinal arc and saito 56?
« on: May 31, 2008, 12:44:41 PM »
is the 56 too much engine for the cardinal arc? 

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Re: cardinal arc and saito 56?
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2008, 02:05:51 PM »
Some will argue that there is no such thing!

I suppose as long as the plane will still rest on the tail gear, you can do it. The main issue after balancing, and total weight (whether the wing can carry it through the corners), will be the ground clearance for the prop. But of course that's what multi-blade props are made for.

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Re: cardinal arc and saito 56?
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2008, 04:09:39 PM »
Saito 40 would be a MUCH better match...

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Re: cardinal arc and saito 56?
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2008, 04:42:06 PM »
 I'm a big fan of having extra power, but the .56 is WAY more than you need for that model. I agree that the .40 would be a good combination.
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Re: cardinal arc and saito 56?
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2008, 04:51:07 PM »
Frank "Too much Power" Williams has the combo you mention. It will probably pull through a pattern in a Force 2 gale, and take his right arm with it! I had (darn it!) a Cardinal ARC with a Saito .40, and my right elbow ached for 15 minutes  following each flight. That's enough pull for me.
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Re: cardinal arc and saito 56?
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2008, 04:56:24 PM »
There was a Saito 56 flying at the recent NW Regionals.  It was an awesome sight (forgive my Valley-guy English).  I just gotta get one!

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Re: cardinal arc and saito 56?
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2008, 05:21:57 PM »
Igor Panchenko flies a Saito 56 in a self designed full fuse stunter, its rather unique in its setup, he turns around 6500 rpm with a 8 or 10 pitch prop. it just chugs around like a tractor, quite a site to behold. If you went by sound you would think he didnt get the needle, but boy it does fly well! I think thats probably the plane Floyd is refering too. As for the Cardinal, I suppose you could but talk about power to excess? I am sure you would have to shorten the nose a substantial amount to even get close to balance. Personaly I think the Saito 40a would be better but,, what the heck,,what altitude do you fly at. above sea level, I know it the summer when its 95 and I am at 2700 feet ASL more power isnt all that bad a thing!
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Re: cardinal arc and saito 56?
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2008, 06:01:44 PM »
I was thinking the 40 would be about right but, my LHS said Horizon is out of them.  So they can't get any.  Any ideas where I can get the Saito 40a CL?  Does Randy have them?  What fuel do they run best on?    Brad

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Re: cardinal arc and saito 56?
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2008, 08:51:46 PM »
Brad,
Try Henry Werner over at VirginiaHobbySport.  He has one listed.  He can be reached at www.virginiahobbysport.com.  Great person to deal with.
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Re: cardinal arc and saito 56?
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2008, 10:13:02 PM »
Kaz Minato usually stocks them and the all up price by the time it is shipped to you is about  the same as local U.S. purchase. Just an option If Randy smith or Horizon is sold out.
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Re: cardinal arc and saito 56?
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2008, 06:23:39 AM »
Brad
I had a Saito 50 in a Cardinal and did not have any problems. I did cut a half inch off the nose.
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Re: cardinal arc and saito 56?
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2008, 01:59:11 PM »
I was thinking the 40 would be about right but, my LHS said Horizon is out of them.  So they can't get any.  Any ideas where I can get the Saito 40a CL?  Does Randy have them?  What fuel do they run best on?    Brad

Saito 40C\L $194.99
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Saito 56 C\L $194.99
Saito 72 C\L $224.99

HI Brad

I have most of them in stock, however the 40 Saito has not yet got into the country,. I will have them ASAP when they are shipped in here.

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Re: cardinal arc and saito 56?
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2008, 03:25:39 PM »
I just put a .65 on a pipe in a 625 square in, 54 oz plane, so I'm probably not the guy to ask.  (PE**)
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Re: cardinal arc and saito 56?
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2008, 07:01:42 PM »
is the 56 too much engine for the cardinal arc? 

HI Brad
NO it is not too  much engine for a Cardinal.

Randy


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