Tony Drago may chime in here as he was Mr. Control Line Classics before the line was taken over by Brodak. The Pow-Wow was a unique kit in that the plans showed how to make the original classic legal Pow-Wow and also how to modify it into the Super Pow-Wow which is not classic legal.  Both fly well.  I believe the Super Pow-Wow eventually morphed into the Brodak "Accentor" and its skinny brother the "Tanager". 

Technically, there is no such thing as an illegal Classic, because there are no provisions in the rules to disqualify any model for anything. So, modifications are ok. There is a bit of peer pressure brought to bear on pipes and radical mods, but it's really up to the builder what he/she wants. I've never seen any sort of complaints about any model. It's supposed to be a fun event, ya know!  Steve

Well, here's the current Classic Rules, as downloaded a minute or two ago from the PAMPA website. Where does it say the CD/ED can disqualify anything entered in Classic? You gotta to click on the link to open them.  

I don't know anything about the "Super" Pow Wow. What sort of modifications are we talking about? But I've heard horror stories about people driving clear across the country to VSC and had their entry refused because their model was a D-Tube and shouldn't have been, or I-Beamer and shouldn't have been. How about "warts" on the outboard flaps? Oh, My! Change the wing offset a bit? How about putting a much bigger engine in, or even going to those pesky electrons for motivation?

The rules clearly suggest that the Judges ask the entrant what modifications were made. Seems they are expecting modifications to be made, not trying to prevent modifications from being made, like the OTS rules. Over there on the main forum, there's a post about getting a foam wing for the Tom Warden "Continental". An I-beamer. Yes, there was a D-box version, the Minado, but by all accounts, it seems to be post '70. Yet, someone seems willing to sell a "Lost Foam" setup for the model. I'd like to know how you'd justify allowing that, since it probably couldn't pass inspection as an I-Beam wing.  

Or, maybe it just depends on "WHO"? THAT sort of nonsense is what the rules should prevent, IMO.   Steve

Specifically, the Super Pow-Wow has stretched "modern" moments. In most people's minds that would preclude it from Classic competition as it gives the Super a distinct aerodymanic advantage over the standard Pow-Wow. As for my Sheek's Ryan SC - same airfoil, same moments, different construction method, and...Jack liked it!  

Added for the record: The Sheeks Ryan is not a true I-Beamer. It uses full sized ribs threaded onto a center spar, not thin riblets. I actually tried to build it per plans but about 1/2 way through it was evident that the magic wasn't working. It was either abandon the project or change the construction technique to one I was more familier with. After much deliberation I built it as a C-tube, knowing that some may object but wanting to bring this seldom-modeled design to life as a tribute to Mr. Sheeks and in the spirit of VSC.

Steve, to your Post #5...

May I gently offer a thought? The wording which says, in effect, any design may be entered provided the contestant has convincing evidence of the design's compliance, indicates that a design that does not comply may not be entered in the contest.

Yes, that's not a DQ, which is explicit disqualification of a model entered in an event, nulling any scores and a barring flying it (?again) in the event, on the day.  The wording cited by Keith, and which you attached to your post, indicates that a model which does not comply with the intent of the Classic event, should not be allowed to enter, in the first place... If ineligibility is declared after registration, the contestant's event entry fee should be returned, since the model was not eligible to enter the event. And if any scores already had been recorded and/or posted, they do not count in determining event placing.

Practical considerations: it is theoretically a CD or ED function to intercept ineligible models before entry, but it don't always happen. If a model is "close" and "in the spirit" of eligible Classic models, acceptance is a judgment call. With the 10g pull procedure added to in-processing, perhaps that would be an opportunity for sharp officials to ask an entrant...

Since contests are for the contestants, not the organizers, a factor to be considered is how the rest of the entry in the event feels about an ineligible, or dubiously eligible model, being allowed. And, there, too, it is up to the contestants to speak up and have the officials consider what troubles them about a given model.

(Too many of us are reluctant to gripe to the officials who CAN deal with a matter; we'd rather dis the management behind their backs...  )

But, basically, Classic is for enjoyment, as spelled out in the intro to the rules. And as several mentioned, we have a reasonably effective level of peer pressure to help us keep close to the intent. The authenticity rules may or may not be in widespread use, but they "sort-of establish" an approach to up-grading a score for a more "authentically" built, powered and presented Classic model. Gross updates win fewer points...

OK lets turn it around a little - when was the Super Pow Wow designed and when will it fit Nos 30?  Expecation is that contest organizwers will be running Classic & Nos 30 togther with separate awards - Super Pow Wow could end up the same place after all.

   Richard is right , the wood in the CLC Super Pow Wow kit is excellent . Just need to finish some other projects first.
     Bill