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Routers, Dremels, or Dremel Router
« on: November 21, 2012, 06:00:50 PM »
Anybody use a router or a Dremel to cut plywood doublers and the spaces for wings, motor mounts, etc. on a scratch built profile?  Don't know whether to buy a plunge router or a Dremel Trio. Any suggestions?
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Re: Routers, Dremels, or Dremel Router
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2012, 06:52:45 PM »
Steve,

I've used the Dremel router for cutting in the hollows, in foam wings, for retract gear in R/C pattern ships. Same for the gear blocks.

For what you need to cut, my guess is, a simple jig saw will be fine.

I cut all the pieces for The LOSER with a band saw, Dremel table saw and a jig saw. Check out the build Thread. No place did I use the Dremel router. I do use it to cut wire for gear.

Unfortunately I don't have an electric sander so I spend a bit of time getting as close as I can on the line. I do have to sand.

What are you scratch building?

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Re: Routers, Dremels, or Dremel Router
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2012, 12:09:01 AM »
Thank you Charles, I am going to build a profile Oriental, and have been looking at better ways of cutting the fuse.  I recently completed a scratch build of a variation of the SkyRay35 and had a difficult time with this part of it, and thought that a router would have made the work more precise. Aftermuch research on routers and tables, I saw a couple of things on the internet that drew my interest back to Dremel.
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Re: Routers, Dremels, or Dremel Router
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2012, 05:22:12 AM »
Steve,

I don't know if you're going to keep the fuselage edges square or not, but if you sand a radius it really doesn't matter how they look before you start sanding.

Obviously, the cleaner and more accurate cut, the less sanding.

I like sanding.  n~

Got photos of your Sky Ray 35?

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Re: Routers, Dremels, or Dremel Router
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2012, 08:40:31 AM »
I use my scroll saw, I'd think on 1/8" ply using a router would be a pain. Also using the scroll saw there's alot less saw dust blown around even with dust collection.
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Re: Routers, Dremels, or Dremel Router
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2012, 09:20:57 AM »
I use my scroll saw, I'd think on 1/8" ply using a router would be a pain. Also using the scroll saw there's alot less saw dust blown around even with dust collection.

Leester,

Yes, I should have said scroll saw. I scored a 16" RYOBI, at close out. It had no start key. I use a screwdriver.

I have a guy for laser cutting and I can produce files for that, but I still find myself cutting by hand. Saves on shipping costs and if needed, you can cut the part immediately.

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Re: Routers, Dremels, or Dremel Router
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2012, 09:23:05 AM »
I think using a pin router is good for duplicate parts with a pattern attached to the wood for pin to follow.   The old reliable Dremel scroll saw/jug saw works great for me.   At least for making the wing cut out.   I fire up the band saw for plywood and thick balsa peices.
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Re: Routers, Dremels, or Dremel Router
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2012, 10:23:07 AM »
I use my router table with a flush trim bit to cut my doublers on profiles.  I cut and sand the fuselage including the cutout for the wing.  I then roughly cut the doublers to shape and epoxy on.  When they are cured/dry, I trim using the flush trim bit on my router table.

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Re: Routers, Dremels, or Dremel Router
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2012, 11:50:12 AM »
I use my router table with a flush trim bit to cut my doublers on profiles.  I cut and sand the fuselage including the cutout for the wing.  I then roughly cut the doublers to shape and epoxy on.  When they are cured/dry, I trim using the flush trim bit on my router table.Willie

Willie,

Ever do Formica? Also, the router could be used for a half round on the perimiter of the fuselage, flip over for the other side.

I don't have tools for that.   :(

Lucky you.

I'll bet you're a woodworker also? The router table is a give away.

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Re: Routers, Dremels, or Dremel Router
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2012, 01:27:45 PM »
I use my router table with a flush trim bit to cut my doublers on profiles.  I cut and sand the fuselage including the cutout for the wing.  I then roughly cut the doublers to shape and epoxy on.  When they are cured/dry, I trim using the flush trim bit on my router table.

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Willie & Charles, I cut the wing cutout on the fuse and the doublers, then epoxy them to the fuse.  I then finish cut that assembly on the band saw and sander. I like what Charles says about a half round for the perimeter of the fuse, and have read here that routers are useful for nice leading edges. I probably have the wrong type blade in the band saw because I am not getting a crisp, clean cut, and it isn't always straight.  I need a router to make some drawers, and thought that a router and table might also be a really good tool for profile fuses.  So far, the plan is to buy a plunge router and build a table. And.....does anyone ever really need to justify a new tool?
Thanks for your input Guys!
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Re: Routers, Dremels, or Dremel Router
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2012, 04:16:28 PM »
Get a router combination kit, the standard (fixed base) is what you want to use in your table and the plunge base for non table use. I built my table from 2X4's and bought the top from Rockler.
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Re: Routers, Dremels, or Dremel Router
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2012, 04:19:40 PM »
My set up with a Bosch 1617 router
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Re: Routers, Dremels, or Dremel Router
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2012, 05:03:48 PM »
I have 5 different routers for the guitar shop and use a band saw and jig saw for my ply doublers.  I can cut quite close if I'm careful and block sand them to fine accuracy in half the time it would take to set my router table up.  It's set up for routing necks  all the time so has to be radically switched over.  Band saw for me.
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Re: Routers, Dremels, or Dremel Router
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2012, 10:26:10 PM »
Charles, oh yeah I've cut and trimmed a little formica.  Besides model airplanes my other addiction is tools.  I've got lots of tools.  The only thing I don't have is time.  I've got to figure out how to get some of that without being broke.  I've used a round over bit on my profile fuselages before but I wasn't satisfied due to the doubler but I have a few ideas to try.

Steve, routers can have a snowball effect on the wallet.  Once you buy the router then come the bits.  I can't recommend a router brand but I do recommend a 1/2 inch bit router.  They usually have collets that also fit 1/4 inch bits.

I love my power tools but guys around here, like Jim Lynch build museum quality planes with only a few power tools.  There are so many different ways to build something.  I'm just having fun.

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Re: Routers, Dremels, or Dremel Router
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2012, 03:36:57 AM »
That's nice, Leester.  It makes me want to go to Rockler.
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Re: Routers, Dremels, or Dremel Router
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2012, 12:02:18 AM »
Thanks for the photos Leester, very nice set up.  I ordered a plunge attachment for my Dremel and want to try that before I spend a lot of money, like you were saying Willie. I am very anxious to learn more and better ways to get straight lines, and lighter weight.  I spend more time in the garage building than I do flying, and my flying buds tell me I really need to get busy with the flying, particularly before spring.  Thanks again for the info-BTW I would post some but I can't seem to upload them, is there a procedure for that?
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Re: Routers, Dremels, or Dremel Router
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2012, 04:33:51 PM »
When you make your reply and want to add photo's at the bottom left click on "additional Options"  click on browse and go to your pictures folder. You should be good from there.
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Re: Routers, Dremels, or Dremel Router
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2012, 08:19:12 PM »
I've been to Lee's shop.  He know wood working!  Very nice shop indeed.
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Re: Routers, Dremels, or Dremel Router
« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2012, 03:49:16 PM »
I believe I may have actually figured out how to post a photo!  If this works, the first is of my Bill Bischoff Hellcat.  I used a Gotcha 460 wing and Bill's covering method with Econocote and it worked great.  It flies great for me and has survived several of my "low landings," and all I do is straighten the gear and change props and go again.
The next is of my Twister which I probably won't fly until I learn that up is not up if you are inverted.
The last one is built around the Gotcha wing and is heavy.  Fuselage is 2.75"X1/2" balsa with 3/16" spruce caps the full length.  Looks a lot like a Sky Ray/Flight Streak/Gotcha Streak, so I just call it the yellow one.


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