Author Topic: Magician 15 wood selection (Read 2613 times)

nathan Metzner · « **on:** July 29, 2010, 06:24:51 PM »

I have built 1/2 A's from scratch but never anything larger. What sections of the plane whould it be acceptable to use Hobby Lobby wood and what sections should I spring for quality wood. What distributor should I go through to get competition wood? Finally what shipping company will stand the best chance of getting the wood to my door in one piece. The only place I know to get hardwoods from is Brodak's. I can't wait to get my plan and start the build. My father is almost doen with a full size Magician and I'm seriously jealous of it. LOL I'm considering going with silk span dope and rustoleum for my finish.

Leester · « **Reply #1 on:** July 29, 2010, 07:36:06 PM »

I use Lonestar balsa www.lonestar-balsa.com Lonestar uses UPS or FedEX but they pack it real good. If you have a problem call and they'll fix it. I believe you have to have a minimum 25.00 order not including shipping, but wood never seems to go to waste.

nathan Metzner · « **Reply #2 on:** July 30, 2010, 10:38:02 AM »

Lonestar seems to have some really good bundle deals. I hope my plan has the wiblets that yours has. With those budles I won't have to rely on the hobby lobby or Michaels to get decent wood. I really can't wait for this plan. I hope it's not one of those deals were it takes a month to get. What colors did you use on your magician lee?

Leester · « **Reply #3 on:** July 30, 2010, 12:10:19 PM »

So far mine is just white with a black canopy, if the humidity would ever go down I'll add some trim. If your plans aren't satisfactory let me know.

nathan Metzner · « **Reply #4 on:** August 08, 2010, 09:30:53 AM »

I still haven't recieved my plan. It's only been two weeks so I'm trying to be patient. lol I am seriously jonesin though.

Leester · « **Reply #5 on:** August 08, 2010, 09:52:59 AM »

Who did you order the plans from ?? If you don't want to say on the forum I understand, but seems like a very long time !!

nathan Metzner · « **Reply #6 on:** August 10, 2010, 01:58:48 PM »

Well I got the plans and was infinatly disappointed.

They aren't "plans" it's a build sheet. Oh well at least I tryed. I guess I'll have to wait till someone kits it.

Leester · « **Reply #7 on:** August 10, 2010, 05:56:59 PM »

Nathan, I think Walter sold the kitting rights to Brodak, you'll probobly be better off scratch building. I sent you a PM.

Dennis Moritz · « **Reply #8 on:** August 10, 2010, 08:16:29 PM »

Brodak should have the plans. If you can't get a set send me a private message. I'll copy a set I have and send it on.

nathan Metzner · « **Reply #9 on:** August 11, 2010, 03:25:19 PM »

I haven't seen the plans anywhere on brodaks site. I know I could just get a full Magician plan and size it down but I'd rather get an actual 15 plan. I think I've got someone else working on it I appreciate your offer though.

mccoy40 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 12, 2010, 09:43:10 AM »

Nathan,
I have the original midwest plans for a Magician 15 - it shows all the patterns necessary to build the plane. If you are interested, send me a message with your address and I'll try to getthem reproduced for you

Mccoy40

builditright · « **Reply #11 on:** August 12, 2010, 04:52:25 PM »

Quote from: Leester on August 10, 2010, 05:56:59 PM

Nathan, I think Walter sold the kitting rights to Brodak, you'll probobly be better off scratch building. I sent you a PM.

Yes, I sold them to Brodak, here is a picture of the plan, might want to call and talk with John personally and ask him to run you off a kit and plans

nathan Metzner · « **Reply #12 on:** August 12, 2010, 05:41:25 PM »

Wow that's awesome. I might do that. I appreciate it.

jim gilmore · « **Reply #13 on:** September 14, 2010, 05:39:27 PM »

I wonder if that magician 15 would fly on a norvel .09.
Looks pretty close to the plans I printed out from a magician driwing I copied online and scaled up.

nathan Metzner · « **Reply #14 on:** September 14, 2010, 05:45:17 PM »

I'm not sure. I have been told that the kit is a little light for my LA .15 so the norvel might work well.

Leester · « **Reply #15 on:** September 14, 2010, 06:04:34 PM »

My Walter Umland kit box says for 09-19 engines but the 15 is recommended. So.... If it's your plane do what you think will work

Jim Thomerson · « **Reply #16 on:** September 16, 2010, 10:34:05 AM »

I have two partially competed Magician 15 kits a friend gave me. I looked at them and decided they would be over powered with a TD 09.

nathan Metzner · « **Reply #17 on:** September 17, 2010, 09:16:04 PM »

Wow I guess my LA .15 will be a rocket.

dennis lipsett · « **Reply #18 on:** September 18, 2010, 06:44:45 AM »

Quote from: nathan Metzner on September 17, 2010, 09:16:04 PM

Wow I guess my LA .15 will be a rocket.

I flew my first Magician 15 with a 1958 Fox Rocket 15. It wasn't a rocket so it was perfect for this model.
It is a nice flying model.
Dennis

jim gilmore · « **Reply #19 on:** September 18, 2010, 06:51:33 AM »

True it was not a rocket in 1978 with a fox 15.
So how does the la 15 compare to the fox ?
Is it like the norvel 049, to the baby bee cox's

nathan Metzner · « **Reply #20 on:** September 18, 2010, 07:25:31 AM »

Maybe worst lol. It shouldn't be too big of a deal. I can prop the thing to get it were I like it. Hopefully it'll work out. I've checked out the wood and stuff I like this lone star wood so I'll be getting the wood from there. I'm hopeing to silkspan and dope then finish with rustoleum. I am still looking for an inexpensive fuel proof clear coat. Poly gives the model an antique look that I don't want.

Leester · « **Reply #21 on:** September 18, 2010, 08:56:21 AM »

I've used Clear Poly on several planes with no antique look to them.

nathan Metzner · « **Reply #22 on:** September 18, 2010, 09:44:02 AM »

Lee what kind of poly are you using? I was speaking of minwax polyureathane. It seems to yellow pretty quickly. I know I could get automotive poly clear but I have been looking for another option.

Leester · « **Reply #23 on:** September 18, 2010, 10:45:59 AM »

I use this, the canopy is still white on the Metaphor II and it's been 3 years.

nathan Metzner · « **Reply #24 on:** September 20, 2010, 12:16:27 PM »

Cool lee I have been using the brush on type and it has a honey color to it. I will give that a try. Being that I wrecked my bird on saturday I'll be trying it sooner rather han later.