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Re: Bones Tuetonic (maybe)
« Reply #50 on: October 09, 2009, 06:23:29 PM »
John,

I am keeping my fingers crossed for you.
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Re: Bones Tuetonic (maybe)
« Reply #51 on: October 09, 2009, 06:55:56 PM »
John,
did you already sluck the canopy in place? like permenantly even?
hmm almost had the german dude ready to send your way,, let me know man!
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Re: Bones Tuetonic (maybe)
« Reply #52 on: October 09, 2009, 08:57:40 PM »
Hi Mark, no, the canopy is just sitting in place. I'm holding off on finishing the cockpit, and the rest of the plane for the German "dude".

Are you going to the Follies?

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Re: Bones Tuetonic (maybe)
« Reply #53 on: October 09, 2009, 09:05:35 PM »
John, No, the Follies are a no go for me this year. I have had to take a forced sabbatical from stunt the last half of this year. Just to many irons in the fire and no planes finished to fly, well except my poor reliable profile Gee Bee but its getting pretty tired,,,,

I will have a new fleet ready for next year. They are all built, just need painting.
at least thats my story for now,,,
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Re: Bones Tuetonic (maybe)
« Reply #54 on: October 09, 2009, 09:08:16 PM »
I understand. In my case, funds, with the current economy, have been next to non-existant, so only VSC for me this year.

Hope next year to make the Regionals.
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Re: Bones Tuetonic (maybe)
« Reply #55 on: October 10, 2009, 12:27:34 AM »
Yea, same for me. Money is a scarce commodity. I should make VSC next year, though. Hopefully, things will have lightened up and I can make it to contests next year. Be nice if the kid could find a job so I could stop supporting him.

Anybody know of jobs in Olympia, WA.   ;D
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Re: Bones Tuetonic (maybe)
« Reply #56 on: October 11, 2009, 01:04:14 PM »

Gordan came over yesterday, and we consulted on the finish problem on the "flug". It's been decided that I will apply 3 more coats of clear butyrate, and then one coat of silver. After a few curing days, I'll sand off the silver, and try to not sand through the clear. This should level the finish so the problem won't affect it anymore.




Well, I did it. I sanded the clear coats this morning and just finished sparaying a very light coat of polar grey, with some white added to lighten it up a little. I believe it worked, and saved me from having to strip the finish and start over.

Here are a few pics.

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Re: Bones Tuetonic (maybe)
« Reply #57 on: October 15, 2009, 03:37:49 PM »
John,

That is a really neat design!  H^^

I love the lines, and proportions you used. Can't wait to see the finish trim, and flight reports.

Too bad the early Werhmact designers didn't have your artistic talents. Most of their early airplanes used a green house style canopy, probably because the designers were farmers, before they lowered their social status to war plane designers.  LL~

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« Reply #58 on: October 15, 2009, 05:18:11 PM »
Thank you for the kind words Bill.

I've slowed the pace a little as I'm awaiting the arrival of the pilot, so I can finish up the cockpit. I've applied the sky blue to the bottom. I was going to use the red and white stripes from the "Defense of the Reich" color scheme, but I've taken to watching the weight build up as I get closer to finished.

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Re: Bones Tuetonic (maybe)
« Reply #59 on: October 15, 2009, 08:07:50 PM »
Mark better get the pilot to Utah quick. The 4th Reich is getting impatient.

John, the plane looks awesome.
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Re: Bones Tuetonic (maybe)
« Reply #60 on: October 15, 2009, 09:56:51 PM »
Dude,
uh,
perhaps I could have better luck if I had your uh,, mailing address!
so email it to me,,
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« Reply #61 on: October 16, 2009, 09:59:29 AM »
Mark, very easy,  go to msn.com,  then white pages,   of course have to go to John's profile to see where he lives in Utah.  I discovered over ten pages of John Millers in the state of Utah.  The city narrows it down.  That is how I found Wayne Buran and was lucky as he was only one in the state.  DOC Holliday
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Re: Bones Tuetonic (maybe)
« Reply #62 on: October 16, 2009, 02:43:51 PM »
Good advice Doc,,,
but I think its easier to make John do some work too, lol
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« Reply #63 on: October 16, 2009, 05:56:45 PM »
Mark, I e-mailed you my addy, did you get it? #^ H^^
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Re: Bones Tuetonic (maybe)
« Reply #64 on: October 16, 2009, 09:35:07 PM »
Yes, I did,
I was over at the shop painting a Pylon racer today,,, just got home. The "dude" / test pilot will be on its way to you.
He looks pretty happy to be going to some one elses test program,, not sure what that says about the rumors floating around in my Pilot figure stash drawer, I think perhaps some of my experience pilot figures have been spreading stories about my flying skills?
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Re: Bones Tuetonic (maybe)
« Reply #65 on: October 16, 2009, 10:46:49 PM »
Mark, I don't know why you keep saying stuff like that, about your pilot figures being skeered. Your "bottoms" are so high that they'd cause Acrophobia sufferers to get nose bleeds! Work on that, wouldja?

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Re: Bones Tuetonic (maybe)
« Reply #66 on: October 16, 2009, 10:59:53 PM »
Steve,
its not the bottoms that kill them,, it is the tops,, they are so over the top you know,, lol

I know you moved up, thats why I stayed away, figured I would let you have one shot without me there to brutalize ya,, lol
next year man,, can you say epic contests,, ?
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Re: Bones Tuetonic (maybe)
« Reply #67 on: October 17, 2009, 12:13:40 AM »
Epic,

Well, since I'm dropping down to Advanced...   ;D
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« Reply #68 on: October 17, 2009, 12:21:39 AM »
Randy,,

two words,,

BRING IT!!!
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« Reply #69 on: October 17, 2009, 08:48:56 AM »
 #^ I'm hoping yout pilot dudes don't know about my flying. I thought I'd solved the rumor problem in the pilot storage bin, by using non-standard pilots. Darth Vader being one of my favored pilots because he has no fear, what with being allied with the Dark Side of the "Force". Trouble is, recently converting over to actual Military style pilots has not improved my flying. I think they found out the truth.  :!

So, let's see, Steve, Mark, and Randy flying advanced at next years Regionals, I won't have a chance.

As for the "Flug", I'm going to apply the base green of the splinter style camo today.

I'm still awaiting the venturiis for the engines, but I'm having a lot of fun with this one.  H^^
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« Reply #70 on: October 17, 2009, 10:56:40 AM »
Just kidding, guys. If I'm going to lose, I'd rather lose to the best. I'll stick with Expert.
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« Reply #71 on: October 17, 2009, 12:04:53 PM »
Randy,
first I am flattered that you think we in Advanced would beat you,
but second,, if we did beat you,, we would be the best,,
well the best in advanced anyway,,  LL~

John, sorry we have kinda hijacked your thread,,, but I cant let Randy off you know,,  n1
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« Reply #72 on: October 18, 2009, 07:13:10 PM »
Here are the fruits of last weeks labor. I've got the basic paint and trim in place. I won't install the balkenkrus and swastika decals or the other bits of trim, until after the cockpit detail is finished, and the canopy is set into it's final place.

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« Reply #73 on: October 19, 2009, 03:11:22 PM »
Looks great John.  I love the darker shade of green, looks great!

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Re: Bones Tuetonic (maybe)
« Reply #74 on: October 19, 2009, 04:28:56 PM »
John,

I look forward to seeing it at the Regionals next year.

Mark,

>>first I am flattered that you think we in Advanced would beat you,
but second,, if we did beat you,, we would be the best,,
well the best in advanced anyway<<

My point exactly.
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« Reply #75 on: October 20, 2009, 02:43:16 PM »
Ok, I couldn't wait, so here it is basically finished as far as trim goes.

Cockpit details, and engine mounting to be finished.

I'm happy with the results.

Hope to be able to test fly it before the snow flies.
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« Reply #76 on: October 20, 2009, 02:55:36 PM »
John,
your test pilot should be there any minute now,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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« Reply #77 on: October 20, 2009, 04:39:44 PM »
Yeah, he's probably getting last minute instructions from the Air Marshal.

Thanks Mark for your pilot dude. I'll try to give him a great ride.  H^^
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Re: Bones Tuetonic (maybe)
« Reply #78 on: October 21, 2009, 08:50:40 AM »
Showed the wife pictures of the plane.  She turned her nose up, so I may build one just to irritate her.  Looks great to me.  DOC Holliday
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« Reply #79 on: October 21, 2009, 05:27:56 PM »
Well. today I got both engines setup with venturiis. I mounted everything up, including the stock mufflers. It weighs in at 48 oz's. The math worked, and the balance is right on target. I'm very happy so far. #^
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« Reply #80 on: October 21, 2009, 05:47:17 PM »
John,

Excellent!  H^^

How about a picture or two of her off the work bench?

She looks good now, but pictures without all the background clutter would be so much nicer.  ;D

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« Reply #81 on: October 21, 2009, 06:43:02 PM »
Here ya go Bill. I took her out to the porch and an unclutterred table.

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Re: Bones Tuetonic (maybe)
« Reply #82 on: October 21, 2009, 07:09:17 PM »
As teutonic as, Lilly Von Schtupp!   ("A wed wose. How womantic.")


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« Reply #83 on: October 21, 2009, 07:41:48 PM »
Looking better by the minute. Has the pilot arrived yet? Is the cockpit detail finished and ready for das pilot's preflight?
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« Reply #84 on: October 21, 2009, 08:29:15 PM »
Thank you all for your support, and generous comments. It's been a fun project, and I hope to have the initial test flights soon. The pilot is still meeting with the air Marshall. I'm sure that he's having the importance the great leader has placed on this being a successful test project, driven into his conscious and sub-conscious.

His mount will be awaiting when he gets here, but the cockpit will be sized to fit, so it'll be a few days after he gets here.  #^

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« Reply #85 on: October 21, 2009, 08:53:13 PM »
DANG he should be there!
Maybe he stopped off in Boise to see Pat on the way by, Knowing Pat has his spitfire in progress perhaps he wanted to spy on the competition?
Sorry John, didnt mean for this to hold you up,, sigh,,
Hope when he arrives you will feel its worth the wait
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« Reply #86 on: October 21, 2009, 09:17:12 PM »
John,

Outstanding!  H^^

I've never built a twin engined anything, but your design makes me want to do one just like that.  ;D

Looking forward to the flight report, and if it flys even half as good as it looks, it should be published and kitted.

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« Reply #87 on: October 21, 2009, 09:51:52 PM »
Mark, not a problem. He'll be here soon, and maybe he was able to put some fear into Pat's pilot. I'll need all the help I can get..... :##  I really appreciate your doing this for me.

Bill, Twins are a lot of fun, and the sound is soo different. The prop disk area from the two props, in this case, will be more than a 12 inch prop. The thrust, and power that comes from a pair of good running engines is suprizing.

All of the rest of you guys, I appreciate your comments, and have enjoyed playing with the "Tuetonic Bones".

Now, I really do have high hopes for the flying quality. All the math, ,and figuring will hopefully prove out positive.  H^^
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« Reply #88 on: October 21, 2009, 10:30:04 PM »
Mark, not a problem. He'll be here soon, and maybe he was able to put some fear into Pat's pilot. I'll need all the help I can get..... :##  I really appreciate your doing this for me.

Bill, Twins are a lot of fun, and the sound is soo different. The prop disk area from the two props, in this case, will be more than a 12 inch prop. The thrust, and power that comes from a pair of good running engines is suprizing.

All of the rest of you guys, I appreciate your comments, and have enjoyed playing with the "Tuetonic Bones".

Now, I really do have high hopes for the flying quality. All the math, ,and figuring will hopefully prove out positive.  H^^

Hi John,

Are you still flying your twin Flite Streak surfboard?  That sounded pretty good when you got both engines happening.

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« Reply #89 on: October 22, 2009, 10:09:52 AM »
Hi John,

Are you still flying your twin Flite Streak surfboard?  That sounded pretty good when you got both engines happening.

Bill

Hi Bill,

The "surfboard" is hanging on the wall. I had a landing incident about 5 years ago when I accidentally hit someones launching stooge when landing. I didn't know it was there, so it came as a suprize to me.

I need to strip it and check to make sure all damage is fixed. Since I have other, newer, planes to fly in Classic, and Profile, such repairs have been on the back burner, and may remain so for some time.

For profile, I've a Pathfinder twin that is a killer flier. thus, another reason for lack of action on the Twin Flightstreak.

This current twin should bridge the gap between the profile and PAMPA classes  #^ H^^
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Re: Bones Tuetonic (maybe)
« Reply #90 on: October 23, 2009, 06:33:31 PM »
Well, the pilot arrived today. He had a slight air about him of cheap wine, so I'm suspecting that he stopped at a sporting house on the way here.

Mark he looks great, you did a good job with him. Pete Peterson was here when he arrived, took one look at him, and said," He looks like Leo."

Darned if he doesn't.

He's being fitted to the cockpit. He's a perfect fit. He already looks at home in the cockpit. But, he still looks like Leo,,,,, :o

Thanks Mark, and ya know I'm just funnin' wit ya. S?P
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Re: Bones Tuetonic (maybe)
« Reply #91 on: October 23, 2009, 09:52:30 PM »
Glad he arrived in one peice,, or ,, well part of a peice, or,, heck if he looks like leo to you,, I begin to wonder what YOU have been imbibing,,

Hmm Pete is there huh,, I see , he can travel all the way there, and see YOU, but he cant come here to fly with me,, sheesh, I see how I rate,,,

Looking forward to seeing pictures of the well trained lad in place in his new mount,,

and if he begins muttering something about taking control during the regionals,, I promise he wasnt trained to steal control on your official flights so I can have an advantage, I promise!

Leo huh, hmmmm
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« Reply #92 on: October 24, 2009, 12:06:35 PM »
Hey Guys, here's the pilot getting used to the front office of the Zweipanzerflug. Because of his uncanny resemblence to another pilot I know, I've named him Leo. Full name Leo Von Fluggenboomer, the scourge of the eastern front.  y1
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« Reply #93 on: October 24, 2009, 01:49:40 PM »
If you are referring to the Leo I know,  I hope he takes it as a compliment as the pilot looks great to me.  Looks like a lot of work. 

Mark,  maybe you were not home when Pete knocked on the door. LL~ LL~ Great work on the pilot.  DOC Holliday
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Re: Bones Tuetonic (maybe)
« Reply #94 on: November 03, 2009, 12:59:07 PM »
well??????
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Re: Bones Tuetonic (maybe)
« Reply #95 on: November 03, 2009, 01:56:28 PM »
It's siting on the table as I write this Mark. I'm having a couple of issues to resolve before test flights are attempted.

The engines are mounted, but there're problems with the Venturi's. They are too large. I've orderred new ones with smaller id's. I also am awaiting on recieving the posts to fit in the venbturi's.

I used vinyl decals and they have curled around the edges when I tried to seal over them with dope. Now, I've finished drawing the files for making paint masks, and will have them cut at the local sign shop.

Then, I'll be able to finish her up.

Hope all this happens soon though, we've been having great weekend weather here.

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« Reply #96 on: November 20, 2009, 01:17:39 AM »
Are you sure your plane is not British, and captured by some German special forces?
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Re: Bones Tuetonic (maybe)
« Reply #97 on: November 20, 2009, 07:32:39 AM »
Are you sure your plane is not British, and captured by some German special forces?
http://www.geocities.com/unicraftmodels/on/m22/m22.htm

I hadn't considered that possibility. Of coarse, as a Fantasy Scale design, it very well may have.  Igt also may have actually been an updated prototype, captured from the Blackhawk Squadron.

 y1 H^^

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Re: Bones Tuetonic (maybe)
« Reply #98 on: November 27, 2009, 01:04:13 PM »
A very impressive airplane.  John, I have a couple of questions.  The instruments shown for checking incidence are new to me.  I am also interested in the soda pop bottle method of forming a canopy.  I did a search and couldn't find anything.  Can you advise?  Thanks.
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Re: Bones Tuetonic (maybe)
« Reply #99 on: November 27, 2009, 01:53:55 PM »
Dick, thank you for your kind compliment about the plane.

The instruments are known as Robart incidence meters. They are available from several sources, Tower perhaps being the easiest to access. If you catch a sale right, you may save a few bucks as well.

I prefer to have at least a pair of them, so I can check two incidences at the same time. for instance, I'll set the wing at 0-0, and while leaving the meter attached to the wing, I'll attach a second one to the engine, and check the thrust line. By having two meters, I can compare between the wing and the thrust line. It let's me know if I've bumped, or accidentally moved the plane, throwing my meters off.

Leaving the meter on the wing, I can move the second meter to the stab and check the incidence there.

When finished, I can be reasonably sure that things are where I want them to be.

Gordan Delaney has found something recently that surprised both of us. He aligned his stab and set the incidence where he wanted it, but after installing the bottom block, he rechecked and found the new block had pulled his stab out of alignment, and was giving him negative stab incidence. He was able to reestablish the incidence he wanted, thus possibly saving a ton of frustration during the trimming stages.

Up until this particular build, neither of us had considered the possibility of an added part causing such a major misalignment.

There are at least two styles of incidence meters available. One uses a spirit bubble, and a meter (Robart), the other uses a laser pointer. I've no experience with the laser pointer, so I prefer the first style.

Making a canopy from a soda bottle is fun, and relatively easy to do. You are limited size wise to what you can get out of a 2 liter bottle, though I have seen some drinks coming in a 3 liter bottle. In any case you're limited by the size of the bottle.

Soda bottles are usually PET plastic, and will tolerate butyrate dope being applied over it, an advantage in my mind.

The first order of business is to make your plug, or mold.

You can use most any material that can withstand some heat. I tend to use some of that hard balsa that I can't use for anything else to carve out the plug. I've found it helpful to make the skirts a bit over sized so I have enough material to trim after the canopy is formed.

Once the plug is sanded smooth and ready, it's time to start the forming process.

Cut the top, or the bottom off the bottle. For me, the shape of the canopy determines whether I cut the top or bottom off, but once that's done, insert your plug (mold), and insert enough filler wood to sort of jam the plug in there, so it won't easily move.

Get out your monokote heat gun, and start shrinking the plastic bottle. It will readily shrink, and in a few minutes, after cooling, remove the filler pieces, and the plug. You're ready to trim your canopy.

From there, it's the same as installing any other canopy.

 H^^
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