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Offline Andrew Tinsley

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1/2A starter
« on: December 03, 2012, 11:08:48 AM »
Now it is getting really cold over in the UK, starting some of the small glow engines is becoming a pain. I have decided to make a small starter. Had enough of my flipping finger freezing when I get fuel on it!
Recommendations on motors need to be pretty international! Anyone come up with a neat idea for cones, switches etc? I am sure this has been done to death, but I can't seem to find the references. I suppose I could buy one from Towers, but not half as much fun as making one. Read that as me being a cheapskate if you wish.

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Re: 1/2A starter
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2012, 08:39:18 PM »
Heavy duty Latex hose works for the spinner grabber. Maybe also some rubber lined automotive hose?  Miller sells replacement liners made out of Urethane.

You will probably have to turn a holder for it.

I use a 1.3mAh 3s lipo to drive my old Miller 1/2A Starter.   It uses a brushed motor, probably at least "Speed 400" size or larger, something around 4cm diameter and 8cm long.  Housed in a bit of PVC pipe with a pushbutton at the back (I use my little finger to trigger it).
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Re: 1/2A starter
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2012, 11:26:23 AM »
Thanks Larry,
Perfect information, now I can start making once I get a motor.

Thanks,

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Re: 1/2A starter
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2012, 12:41:53 AM »
Hi Andrew,
My Sullivan 1/2A starter uses the Mabuchi RS-540SH motor model #7520 set up for CW rotation. This is a 4.8 to 7.2 volt motor that you drive for short periods with 12 volts to get the needed torque.

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Re: 1/2A starter
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2012, 03:20:19 PM »
Hello Orv,
Thanks for the tip about the Mabuchi motor, I can buy them quite cheaply in UK!

Regards,

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Re: 1/2A starter
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2012, 05:29:47 PM »
Go find a old battery drill.  Take it apart and remove the reduction gearing.
I have a 9.6v drill based starter that is running on 12 volts for a long time.
find some PVC pipe it will fit in, and get a car horn switch from the local auto parts store

I use black fuel tubing from a lawn mower for a drive cone.

I bought a friend with a lathe a beer and he made a cup for the shaft.        
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Offline Larry Renger

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Re: 1/2A starter
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2012, 05:52:56 PM »
I love your avatar, I haven't seen that artwork in over a decade!
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Re: 1/2A starter
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2012, 06:47:18 PM »
I bought one of those lime green Sullivan 1/2A starters.  It works great.  The RPM is a lot higher than the big block starters.  I find that reving it up off the engine, releasing the button, and  engaging while it's coasting down provided just the right persuasion for the TeeDee .020 and .049.

I don't dare use it on a reed for fear of pushing the crank into the reed valve.
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Re: 1/2A starter
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2012, 11:29:54 PM »
Cox Canada sells the washers to put between the drive plate and crankcase.  No problem with electric starters then.  It is a standard item in any engine I rebuild!
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Re: 1/2A starter
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2012, 05:45:57 PM »
Hello Andrew
                      I used a Mabuchi 540 motor a nicad pack for a car cut down to fourcells,some wire,micro switch ,a small piece of aluminum round drilled for a set screw,piece of rubber hose and an L bracket to make my own.Here are some pics.

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Re: 1/2A starter
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2012, 05:59:09 PM »
Juan, I like it!  You may want to try some kind of flexible contact, weatherstrip, cement or silicon to hold the hose on. The zip tie could be dangerous.
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Re: 1/2A starter
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2012, 08:46:44 AM »
Boy this brings back memories of many years ago when I first moved back to the KC area.   Early 60's it was.  Working at an injection molding plant.  My brother and I worked there together.   We got several guys started flying control line when Charlies Hobby Shop had a box of the McCoy .19 Redheads.   Some where a little hard to start.   One of the guys took a heater motor out of his car parts and connected a peice of garden hose.   A push button switch and some electrical cable.   Worked like a champ.   It was quite a few years before I seen an electric starter advertised for R/C use.
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Re: 1/2A starter
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2012, 01:30:20 PM »
Hey Doc, I remember when guys first started using starters back in the sixties they use Ford Thunderbird power window motors.  Don't have a clue why it had to be a Ford Thunderbird window motor but that's what they used and they worked very well.
Andy
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Re: 1/2A starter
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2012, 06:05:04 PM »
Hello David
                   The tie wrap has worked fine since I started to use the starter,I always use a TeeDee spinner on the engines I use a starter on. I make sure they are not flooded by giving them a few flips without the battery connected to the plug.

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