Author Topic: 1/2A fierce Arrow (Read 49941 times)

Roger Vizioli · « **Reply #600 on:** October 02, 2007, 06:03:35 PM »

Oh for the five foot radius I built a Barecat it will do it but it also needs one hot .049.[/b]

Bill,
Or a Norvel .061!

See Photo Gallery, District 5, third row from bottom on the left.
Roger V.

Clancy Arnold · « **Reply #601 on:** October 03, 2007, 07:33:19 AM »

I guess I should have added to my first post that he was flying it in CLPA events, not 1/2 A events. That is the reason for the 22 degrees engine offset with 60 foot lines.

It was one mans idea to build a model that could fly a "Rule Book" pattern.

Clancy

minnesotamodeler · « **Reply #602 on:** October 03, 2007, 08:26:02 AM »

And how many trophies did he win while campaigning it?

Bill Smith · « **Reply #603 on:** December 06, 2007, 07:11:06 PM »

OK guys back to work.
So Far I only see one done.

frank carlisle · « **Reply #604 on:** December 06, 2007, 08:27:02 PM »

You're right Bill , it is about time to finish the Arrows.
I'm in the midst of blocking out a new stunter. In a couple weeks I'll get back to mine.

Bill Smith · « **Reply #605 on:** December 09, 2007, 07:49:19 PM »

blocking out a new stunter ?? I've seen your twin fly all you needed was some trim time.

frank carlisle · « **Reply #606 on:** December 09, 2007, 10:05:24 PM »

The twin is still in play............but I still gotta build a new plane. This time a little one. 50" span with an Aero Tiger .36. It should be ready for paint before Christmas. Then the 1/2A Arrow. During the summer I got a 900" Fierce Arrow kit from RSM.

Bill Little · « **Reply #607 on:** December 10, 2007, 09:07:18 AM »

Hi Frank,

Good to see you back. I hadn't seen any posts in a while. (??)

What is the new stunter? (I know this is the 1/2A section, but we'll hijack this one for a couple posts!

) The Aero Tiger is one really sweet running stunt engine! 11-4 Bolly (or equivalent) and set her in a cackle. Perfect runs!

frank carlisle · « **Reply #608 on:** December 10, 2007, 01:27:30 PM »

Hi Bill,..........I haven't been around much for a few months because I've been breathing life into an AMA District V11 C/L forum. I haven't advertised it here at Stunt Hangar or any of the other forums because I didn't think it would be the right thing to do. For quite a while there was just me and another couple guys using it. There are more now, but I still have to post a lot of replies to keep the people involved. (There's nothing worse that not getting a response). So at the end of the day I've been too pooped to participate.

There is only so much typing I can do in a day. Plus after a summer of 2 or 3 contests a month I was pretty burnt out on modeling. By October I was exhausted.

The new plane is a kit bashed Vector 40 from Brodak. I'm using the basic planform and turning it into a trike geared jet style model with a paint scheme about the same as the twin. I think it'll be named "MINUTE MAN".
Originally my plan was to build the whole thing and then announce here that I had a couple days off and I was going to see if I could beat Sparkie's record for a fast build. Then every couple hours or so I'd post a picture of a component and let on like I'd just built it.

A great idea!! But I needed pictures and a build for the AMA site.

Jeffrey Olijar · « **Reply #609 on:** March 16, 2008, 03:31:44 PM »

ok guys

im throwing my hat into the ring. Ive been asked to demonstrate control line stunt at a anime convention and I want a built up body/wing airplane. Im on a 3 month clock so does anyone know where I can get a scan of the plans so I can print them out. should be several hundred people from 10 to 40 years old there. right in the corruptible age group.

frank carlisle · « **Reply #610 on:** March 16, 2008, 03:38:54 PM »

http://www.flying-models.com/index.html

The link above will take you to Flying Models Plans Service Jeff.

Do you need full size plans? Any particular model?

Jeffrey Olijar · « **Reply #611 on:** March 16, 2008, 03:40:46 PM »

I want to do the 1/2A fierce Arrow + 20% I have a printer all I need is a scan or a really good picture of the plan
with only 3 months notice I don't think I have enough time to wait for plans to get here from a plan service. if I cant get them I might just have to go with a scaled down version of lil-dynamite or if Im really desperate that ridiculous plane.

frank carlisle · « **Reply #612 on:** March 16, 2008, 03:48:21 PM »

Jeff, on page three of this thread there is a scan of the plans for this model. Will your needs be satisfied by printing out a copy?

Jeffrey Olijar · « **Reply #613 on:** March 16, 2008, 03:54:09 PM »

I already tried but I think I need a little bit better resolution than the two pictures on the fourm.
I cant read any of the text or scale bar on either of them.

you think maybe Gerry might have a digital copy? I used to go to his shop almost every weekend.

so sad when it closed... still placed 3rd in the contest when he sold all his stuff.

frank carlisle · « **Reply #614 on:** March 16, 2008, 04:06:27 PM »

Hang on for a few minutes Jeff. I'm going to hunt up the magazine and scan the plan page.
Here is my email address--- aircarlisle@comcast.net ---send me an email and I'll send the file directly to you.

frank carlisle · « **Reply #615 on:** March 16, 2008, 04:29:30 PM »

It's a big file Jeff. I got your email and sent it to you. Let me know if it does the trick.
I'll post a web size plan here too.

Jeffrey Olijar · « **Reply #616 on:** March 16, 2008, 04:48:33 PM »

the one you emailed was great. thanks a bunch

now to make up a list of stuff to buy at the hobby shop...

frank carlisle · « **Reply #617 on:** March 16, 2008, 05:02:29 PM »

Cool......my job is done.

Since you have a very short time to build it, I think it would be great if you could post pix and commentary on your build here .

Jeffrey Olijar · « **Reply #618 on:** March 16, 2008, 05:46:06 PM »

you got it. its the least I can do.
plan is to scale and printed just need to tape it together
I decided not to do +20% as I don't have enough paper here.

frank carlisle · « **Reply #619 on:** March 16, 2008, 06:35:18 PM »

We'll be looking forward to watching your progress. I have one I got part way built last year. Maybe I'll be able to get to it soon.

Jeffrey Olijar · « **Reply #620 on:** March 17, 2008, 06:05:10 AM »

OK to start I blew up the plan so that the scale bar was 6" then I print out the plan tiled across normal 8 1/2 x 11 paper.

after attacking it with scissors I have a full size plan. not perfect but it will work for its purpose.

I then use a photo editor (in my case mspaint and adobe illustrator) to cut the ribs off the plan and make a template sheet. (this is in the computer not my printed plan)
then I cut out cardboard templates using my paper ones using a thin cardboard mountain dew box. (these cardboard templates are saved so that if I desire to build more planes I can.) If I plan on making alot of planes I might use 1/8" plywood or 1/16" aluminum to improve the durability of the template.

I'm still making templates for now. as soon as I'm finished I'll figure out how much wood I need to buy.

(will post images later I am at work)

frank carlisle · « **Reply #621 on:** March 17, 2008, 06:15:55 AM »

Good show Jeff.

As you can see this is already a very long thread-BUT-still not ready to be a record breaker. Your input might just help set a new record.

Let's go for it!!

Roger Vizioli · « **Reply #622 on:** March 17, 2008, 06:56:50 AM »

Quote from: frank carlisle on March 16, 2008, 06:35:18 PM

We'll be looking forward to watching your progress. I have one I got part way built last year. Maybe I'll be able to get to it soon.

Frank,
That makes two of us!
Roger

frank carlisle · « **Reply #623 on:** March 17, 2008, 11:43:21 AM »

I'm going to finish me Arrow by June Roger. I think.

Bill Smith · « **Reply #624 on:** March 18, 2008, 07:09:49 PM »

I would pick on you guys for not getting anything done for a while but then I would have to show what I've got done and thats nothing. Good to see some action on my favorite thread. lets see some photos.

Alan Hahn · « **Reply #625 on:** March 18, 2008, 08:42:49 PM »

Hate to throw cold water here

, but Flying Model's Web site lets you order the plans, and they do come pretty fast. Remember if we don't use them, we will lose them. Plus I'm sure Gerry would appreciate the royalties

, right Bill?

frank carlisle · « **Reply #626 on:** March 19, 2008, 04:52:41 AM »

It feels kinda mean Alan, to tell a guy to go buy something when you have it right there.

Jeffrey Olijar · « **Reply #627 on:** March 19, 2008, 05:51:32 AM »

I ordered a plan but I would like to start building it now as I am on a deadline. Haven't had time to work on it due to watches and such. hope to work on it today though.

frank carlisle · « **Reply #628 on:** March 19, 2008, 06:21:33 AM »

Watches?

Alan Hahn · « **Reply #629 on:** March 19, 2008, 12:23:07 PM »

Frank,
Jeffery means real watches, as in "Guard" and sentries.... You can see a little more on his thread in the electric forum.

frank carlisle · « **Reply #630 on:** March 19, 2008, 02:19:10 PM »

I kinda thought that was what he meant. I wasn't going to assume anything though.
I'll go check out his thread.

Bill Smith · « **Reply #631 on:** March 23, 2008, 12:39:48 PM »

Alan, I really don't know that Gerry gets squat. but yea, buy them keep them available.

Bill Smith · « **Reply #632 on:** December 31, 2009, 01:38:25 PM »

So how much dust has settled on these now??

frank carlisle · « **Reply #633 on:** December 31, 2009, 02:00:08 PM »

I'm still working on mine Bill. The pace isn't furious but it's coming along.

minnesotamodeler · « **Reply #634 on:** December 31, 2009, 04:35:36 PM »

Looking real good Frank...that's to the original plan, not my revision, right? I think your cowl will work much better than mine did. Not enough intake or outgo space on mine. Had to cut it off to avoid overheating.

frank carlisle · « **Reply #635 on:** January 01, 2010, 03:17:18 AM »

Yes Ray....built to original plan.

Bill Little · « **Reply #636 on:** January 02, 2010, 05:35:27 PM »

Quote from: frank carlisle on January 01, 2010, 03:17:18 AM

Yes Ray....built to original plan.

Hi Ol' Buddy,

Looks like I might just get to work on that *Arrow*, myself, before too long.

Things have been awful slow on my end.............

Bill <><

frank carlisle · « **Reply #637 on:** January 03, 2010, 04:56:46 AM »

Hi ya Bill--------Happy New Year.

Bill Smith · « **Reply #638 on:** January 21, 2010, 05:48:51 PM »

Looking good Frank

frank carlisle · « **Reply #639 on:** April 19, 2010, 06:11:01 PM »

I'm back to working on that 1/2A Fierce Arrow again.
Ray what did you use for a control horn in your model?

Robert McHam · « **Reply #640 on:** April 20, 2010, 10:52:03 AM »

Good for you Frank, looking good!

Robert

Larry Renger · « **Reply #641 on:** April 20, 2010, 07:35:17 PM »

I understand that Wild Bill is in the hospital with a major problem. It is detailed on Stuka Stunt main forum.

Let us wish him well in our own way!

minnesotamodeler · « **Reply #642 on:** April 23, 2010, 06:29:52 AM »

Quote from: frank carlisle on April 19, 2010, 06:11:01 PM

I'm back to working on that 1/2A Fierce Arrow again.
Ray what did you use for a control horn in your model?

Frank, I made my own coupler/horn from heavy coathanger wire (for tweaking purposes) bent in a square "U" and a little piece of galvanized roofing tin soldered onto it for the horn. I've made several like this for flap or elev. couplers and haven't yet had a failure. Just hafta pay a little attention to the soldering joint.

frank carlisle · « **Reply #643 on:** April 23, 2010, 07:10:41 PM »

I wound up using 1/16th piano wire and a short piece of steel for my horn coupler Ray. Jan silver soldered it.
The flaps are hinged now. The Dil-Bod is in the stream Ray.

frank carlisle · « **Reply #644 on:** April 23, 2010, 07:13:30 PM »

By the way Ray this thread was started ( 1-24-07 ) three years ago! My Arrow is already old.

Bill Little · « **Reply #645 on:** April 23, 2010, 07:57:55 PM »

Quote from: frank carlisle on April 23, 2010, 07:13:30 PM

By the way Ray this thread was started ( 1-24-07 ) three years ago! My Arrow is already old.

Yeah, Frank, but we were *OLD* already!

Big Bear

minnesotamodeler · « **Reply #646 on:** April 24, 2010, 03:22:30 AM »

Yeah, I was noticing the age/length of this thread too...must be some kinda record.

Hey Bill, speak for yourself! It ain't the years, it's the miles...sometimes I feel like it's been a million.

Frank, I'm looking forward to seeing the Dil-Bod finish! I haven't built much this winter, nor building now--have to do it vicariously through you.

frank carlisle · « **Reply #647 on:** April 24, 2010, 05:45:35 AM »

Bill---yup -- older this year than last. Much older.

Ray--I think it is somekind of record length thread. I was shocked when I dug this thread up at how long it is. I guess I shoulda finished this one a long time ago. You got yours done in good time.

I need to do a little fillet work around the canopy on your Dil-Bod. And there are still a couple paint jobs ahead of it.
How have your eyes been Ray?

minnesotamodeler · « **Reply #648 on:** April 24, 2010, 06:45:38 PM »

Still fighting it, Frank...nothing has worked so far, fast approaching the final attempt at binocular vision, which will be a contact lens on one eye and corrective glasses lenses for both. Sounds like a hassle but if it'll get me 3D back it'll be worth it. I'm tired of living in a 2D world. If that doesn't do it I'll just get a pirate's patch I guess.

Now awaiting surgery for vocal cord nodules in a couple of weeks. You'd think I could get one thing fixed before something else broke...

Bill Little · « **Reply #649 on:** April 24, 2010, 10:37:08 PM »

Quote from: minnesotamodeler on April 24, 2010, 06:45:38 PM

Still fighting it, Frank...nothing has worked so far, fast approaching the final attempt at binocular vision, which will be a contact lens on one eye and corrective glasses lenses for both. Sounds like a hassle but if it'll get me 3D back it'll be worth it. I'm tired of living in a 2D world. If that doesn't do it I'll just get a pirate's patch I guess.

Now awaiting surgery for vocal cord nodules in a couple of weeks. You'd think I could get one thing fixed before something else broke...

HI Ray,

My prayers and best wishes for your health!

Bill

Author Topic: 1/2A fierce Arrow (Read 49941 times)

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