Author Topic: top wing military plane (Read 3515 times)

Duke.Johnson · « **on:** January 10, 2013, 03:03:06 PM »

I want to build a 1/2A carrier plane. I would like to have a top wing and would prefer a built up wing. I'd also like to put a .049 TD in it.

Any ideas? Kits? Or Drawings?

john vlna · « **Reply #1 on:** January 10, 2013, 03:13:29 PM »

Duke,
Take a look at the Curtiss XF-13. There was a 15 size published for carrier, but no 1/2A that I know of.
John

john vlna · « **Reply #2 on:** January 10, 2013, 03:41:13 PM »

Here is another design. Again this is a 15, but it could be reduced in size

Bill Heher · « **Reply #3 on:** January 25, 2013, 09:13:45 PM »

I'm no carrier historian, but I'd be surprised if an O1-E never landed and launched from a carrier, might not count as an Arressted landing, but I bet a couple of plane wranglers grabbed it beore it came to a stp!

Duke.Johnson · « **Reply #4 on:** January 25, 2013, 09:34:52 PM »

Quote from: john vlna on January 10, 2013, 03:41:13 PM

Here is another design. Again this is a 15, but it could be reduced in size

John
Sorry I missed your reply. I don't know how I missed it. Thanks for your help. I need to get back to this project. I've been working on a .15 carrier.

john vlna · « **Reply #5 on:** January 25, 2013, 11:10:09 PM »

Duke,
You have gotten me interested in this idea. I've started a plan for the XF-13, see attached

john

PS I am thinking of an AP .061 for power

Duke.Johnson · « **Reply #6 on:** January 26, 2013, 02:27:17 PM »

I have a proto type started, a 1/2A Skyray that a won in a raffle. I'm waiting on a Cox backplate, should have it done by next weekend.

john vlna · « **Reply #7 on:** January 26, 2013, 05:27:39 PM »

Duke,
good choice. SIG started an unofficial carrier event for their 35 skyway over 20 years ago so why not a 1/2a version. The event is still flown today.
John

john vlna · « **Reply #8 on:** January 26, 2013, 10:24:53 PM »

Duke
I finished the plan, well as far as I'll take it, some detail is missing. There are two version, one tiled and one full. If you get back to the XF-13 they may be of use. I would also recommend the Melvin Schutte article in MA June 1990 for a 15 profile version. You can access it on the AMA site.

John

Duke.Johnson · « **Reply #9 on:** January 27, 2013, 10:27:58 AM »

John
Looks very nice!
Duke

L0U CRANE · « **Reply #10 on:** February 01, 2013, 02:32:38 PM »

Unless you are more of a purist than I am, you might consider a take-off on the kit Dumas A-7 of the early 1970s. That was a Standard Profile size model, with a slightly anhedral shoulder wing. The McDonnell (?) A-7 was the 'SLUF' (Short Little Ugly F.. er.. Feller) during the Viet Nam years.

Yes, a carrier jet, but with a radome nose that looked a lot like a spinner. The 35 Profile flew well.

john vlna · « **Reply #11 on:** February 01, 2013, 07:34:15 PM »

Lou,
Another good jet candidate is the A-6,a bit more mid wing but....

Duke.Johnson · « **Reply #12 on:** February 10, 2013, 09:19:59 PM »

John
I picked up a new thunder tiger .070 yesterday at the swap meet. Do you think it would work well in the xf-13?

Douglas Babb · « **Reply #13 on:** February 10, 2013, 11:58:59 PM »

To Bill Heher, an O1-E landed on the USS Midway with a Vietnamese pilot and family on board during the fall of Saigon. I think it was pushed overboard to make room for more planes but there is a Bird Dog on the Midway in San Diego.

john e. holliday · « **Reply #14 on:** February 11, 2013, 08:40:08 AM »

Quote from: Duke.Johnson on February 10, 2013, 09:19:59 PM

John
I picked up a new thunder tiger .070 yesterday at the swap meet. Do you think it would work well in the xf-13?

Too big for 1/2A in the states. 1/2A is up to .051. I think the European Countries limit is .099.

Mike Keville · « **Reply #15 on:** February 11, 2013, 09:12:08 AM »

Quote from: john e. holliday on February 11, 2013, 08:40:08 AM

. . . 1/2A is up to .051 . . .

Actually, the upper limit for 1/2A is .049. In the USA, .051 falls into Class A.

john vlna · « **Reply #16 on:** February 11, 2013, 09:28:52 AM »

Mike, Doc,

The definitions of 1/2A vary, in 1/2A profile scale it is .061, in RC it is often up to .10

John

john vlna · « **Reply #17 on:** February 11, 2013, 09:33:18 AM »

" John
I picked up a new thunder tiger .070 yesterday at the swap meet. Do you think it would work well in the xf-13?"

On the XF-13, I think the .07 would be fine. I have one but haven't run it yet, looks good though.
John

Duke.Johnson · « **Reply #18 on:** February 11, 2013, 01:46:07 PM »

Well maybe I'll put a TD.049 in the XF-13 and save the TT .070 for a stunt plane. That will have to be another thread.

john vlna · « **Reply #19 on:** February 11, 2013, 08:36:40 PM »

Nice thing about the .07 is throttle, very necessary for the carrier pattern. What throttle do you have for the TD

Duke.Johnson · « **Reply #20 on:** February 12, 2013, 07:44:01 AM »

Quote from: john vlna on February 11, 2013, 08:36:40 PM

Nice thing about the .07 is throttle, very necessary for the carrier pattern. What throttle do you have for the TD

john vlna · « **Reply #21 on:** February 12, 2013, 08:50:02 AM »

Looks good, I'll be interested in how well it works. I assume it would also fit a Medallion.

Duke.Johnson · « **Reply #22 on:** February 12, 2013, 09:03:39 AM »

Quote from: john vlna on February 12, 2013, 08:50:02 AM

Looks good, I'll be interested in how well it works. I assume it would also fit a Medallion.

You are correct. PM coming your way.

Duke.Johnson · « **Reply #23 on:** February 26, 2013, 09:05:17 PM »

Here's the 1/2A carrier plane I finally finished.

Duke.Johnson · « **Reply #24 on:** February 26, 2013, 09:06:28 PM »

And a close up of the bellcrank.

Duke.Johnson · « **Reply #25 on:** March 01, 2013, 10:13:23 PM »

Well, proof of concept. The 1/2A carrier flies!

The boys walked out to the field and put in about a dozen fights on it before dinner. It's not the best but it's a start.

john e. holliday · « **Reply #26 on:** March 02, 2013, 08:18:49 AM »

Glad to hear it is working for ya. Just lke a stunt plane it will just take practice and tweaking.

john vlna · « **Reply #27 on:** March 02, 2013, 04:12:22 PM »

Duke,
Sounds good. Keep at it, maybe the kids will give you a turn.
John