Try looking at a Plastic Fantastic available from the Brodak site. It contains two kits and was recommended to me by Larry Renger to which I flew many fun flights using cox reedies. He has trained other stunt flyers with this model with great success. With it's nearly indestructible design it's a great 1/2 a flyer. Maybe Larry will chime in to elaborate a bit more on the PF-24. (Contains 2 Kits) Hardware Included, Built in 2 hours, Flies great, Bounces and Flies Again, 24" wing span, control line, Cox, Norvel, OK Cub, .049 Powered.