Thank you all for your help, I have them now.
Larry
PS
I can not go to Tower or any of the warehouse type hobby stores or their web sites. I had a big hobby store many years ago, selling lots of Control Line products, renting a local field for control line flying and working with hobbyist and allowing them to use my shop to build their models and much more. The discount stores drove me out of business and almost killed control line. I want nothing to do with those sons of %$^#&s.
Sorry.