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Offline Dennis Saydak

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Taildragger Wheel Alignment
« on: November 28, 2013, 04:15:58 PM »
I'm about to mount the main gear wires into my Mulligan fuselage. Is there anything critical or special I need to know to ensure the wheel alignment is set up properly? I have no experience taxing a throttle equipped  taildragger around the circle and I'm concerned about the possibility of the model turning in on me unexpectedly if not set up correctly.
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Re: Taildragger Wheel Alignment
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2013, 05:53:25 PM »
I set up my tail draggers so that the tail wheel is fixed but adjustable. This way i can make slight adjustments so that it steers correctly on taxi and takeoff.

In some cases the wire for the tail wheel can be bent to to steer the model inwards just enough to provide alignment to taxi properly.

On test flight I slowly taxi to check line tension before I takeoff

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Re: Taildragger Wheel Alignment
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2013, 06:11:12 PM »
Thanks for the info Fred. I installed my 3/32" tail wheel wire as per the plan so it technically isn't adjustable. However, I can easily tweak it at this point so that it has a slight inward steering effect. Once the tail wheel fairing goes on it would be next to impossible to adjust it afterwards.
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Re: Taildragger Wheel Alignment
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2013, 06:29:52 AM »
You might be able to grab the wire the wheel goes on and make slight adjustments, small ones. In general if the tail wheel is straight ahead you are probably ok.

I had to do small alignment changes on my RV-4 but they were very small

Remember your line guide position also affects taxi

The big thing is test fly in stages. I saw a cl scale model on maiden flight takeoff, stall and crash in a 1/2lap one time. I do 2 or 3 taxi laps before I throttle up slowly, checking line tension and wheel alignment. Sometimes I stop right there and adjust the line guide fwd or aft.

Once the line tension is ok and it handles well on the ground then I throttle up slowly and get the model on the main wheels with enough airspeed to get airborne (low to the ground) and see how the elevator responds. If the model is too pitch sensitive then I land immediately and move the CG forward and maybe adjust elevator control throw. If the control throw for the elevator seems ok and the CG is ok then do a normal takeoff.

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Re: Taildragger Wheel Alignment
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2013, 08:09:46 AM »
Fred:

What Dennis is referring to is that, once completed, the Mulligans tailwheel is completely enclosed except for the bottom 1/3 to 1/2 of the wheel. That makes it virtually impossible to tweak in any adjustments afterwards.

Dennis:

I have found that a tail dragger is best set for straight ahead tracking. The wheels are not pinned to the ground and any minor bouncing or simply the pull on the lead outs keeps the model taxiing in the proper circle. I have scratch built a Mulligan the same size as yours and set it up straight. I also did a scratch on a Rearwin Speedster and a Monocoupe. All handled well in the circle. It is my opinion that a tricycle gear is more critical to get set up to track the radius.

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Re: Taildragger Wheel Alignment
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2013, 02:41:00 PM »
I know what you mean regarding the tail wheel, even still very small adjustments can be made to the alignment of the tailwheel even with the way it's built. take the tailwheel off and make very slight adjustments if needed at all.

I also agree that just put the tail straight ahead and it will be ok

On some models I have even installed a servo to the steerable tailwheel and with the trim on the transmitter I was able to get the ideal alignment so that the model tracked really nice. But putting in the servo and steerable tailwheel was extra work.

Putting steerable nose gear with a servo to steer the model would make setting up the alignment really easy

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Re: Taildragger Wheel Alignment
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2013, 03:32:50 PM »
Hi guys, thanks for the input. It's easy enough to leave the tail wheel fairing off until I'm satisfied with the circle tracking. The fairing can easily be installed with clear silicone afterwards.

I'm not certain at this point whether I will use a standard 3-line control setup or go the 2.4GHZ route, but I do have a 3-line related question. Do you squeeze the trigger or release the trigger for high speed? I've only flown one throttle equipped model previously, which was Paul Kegel's Sniper. I had no problem flying it but it was so long ago that I don't remember the trigger setup.
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Re: Taildragger Wheel Alignment
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2013, 05:36:59 PM »
Probably about half the three line throttles are set up to squeeze, the other half to pull. I set mine to "squeeze" only because in that configuration the models can be flown on two lines only with wide open throttle.

A major advantage of the 2.4 (or any electronic system) is that you have throttle control if the lines go slack. This happens with scale models more than others, especially with any kind of taxi problem where the model turns to you. Being able to shut down the engine in this situation is worth the cost of the electronics.

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Re: Taildragger Wheel Alignment
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2013, 06:36:40 PM »
2.4 Ghz is so easy to set up, you can set the idle speed with the travel adjust on the radio system. with a glow engine you have a battery, servo, on-off switch and a receiver. Install the servo and then when you start the model use the travel adjust to set the idle speed. Bringing the engine to an idle for taxi is an important part of the flight.

Then to shut down the engine use the trim on the transmitter to lower the throttle one more notch and the engine quits.

either way you go they both work, but Chuck is right if the lines go slack on 3-line you have no throttle control. I have had models ground loop on me easily 5 times and in all cases I calmly throttled back to idle and killed the engine with electronic controls.  had I been flying 3-line I would have been running to get out of the way.

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Re: Taildragger Wheel Alignment
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2013, 09:06:43 AM »
Gotta mention Clancy Arnold's slide gadgets. Simple and they work!

I may take that approach with my Corsair and Bee Bee Z.

Your tailwheel.

I would make it removable for adjustment. But that's me.

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