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Offline John Rist

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2010 NATS Fun Scale - I had fun!
« on: August 21, 2010, 09:16:16 PM »
This was my first NATS and it was a blast!  I only brought one aircraft – an Extra 300S for fun scale.  It was a converted RC ARF I picked up at Tower Hobbies. Phenix Models Extra 300S ARF for a 46 size engine.   I powered it with an OS Max 55 AX.  Plane looked good however it didn’t want to land.  I ran out of time before the contest so it wasn’t dialed in all that well.  So my finish of  7th out of 11 wasn’t all that surprising and I was well pleased.

Lets talk about lessons learned.
First of all the model was heavy.  At close to 8 lbs it is a lead sled.  Also it has a thin airfoil making it’s power off glide like a rock.

Second – I think a 4C engine is the way to go for scale – especially a large one.  I observed that the reliability of the Saito’s was spot on.  I had one DNF flight because the OS quit.

Third – Fun scale is all about the flight score. (No surprise here – that’s how the rules are set up.)  So the key is practice, practice, and more pratice.

Biggest surprise:  The scale judging was a big deal.  I got a 7.35 and I thought my model was a least an 8 to 9.  However, I am not saying the judging was unfair, quite the contrary.  What I am saying is that to win, even in Fun Scale you must have flawless scale ship.  I suspect that most of the winning ships are hand-me-downs form Sport Scale.   My point is look at he following chart.

Place   Static   Flight   Total
1        9.7           93            102.7
2        8.6           87            95.6
3        6.8           86.75       93.55
4        9.75           82.75       92.5
7        7.35           82            89.35

Looking at the above first place nailed the static score and the flight score – a clear winner.  However the difference between 4th and 7th place was the static score.   On the other hand the difference between 3rd and 7th was the flight score.  Please don’t accuse me of being sour grapes – I am just making the point that 10 points for scale is a big deal.  the flight spread between 1st  and 7th is 11 points.  On the other side of the coin – if you throw out static score 1 through 4 stay the same.  Go figure!!  Enough on this ---

Most fun!!!  I was the only one with SMOKE!  The crowd loved it – the judges loved it – I got 9 and 10 on this one.

Summery from a first timer.  I had fun lots of fun. Every body was friendly and helpful.  The camping on site was great! The contest was well run.  I plan to return next year.  Between now and then I will get a 4-cycle.  I will come up with an airplane that lands like silk and I will practice – practice and practice some more.  See you in 2011.  Some pictures attached - Some of me and some of John Brodak.  John's flying was unbelievable!!! This was my first chance to meet John - What a great person.
« Last Edit: August 24, 2010, 07:12:52 AM by John Rist »
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Offline john e. holliday

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Re: 2010 NATS Fun Scale - I had fun!
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2010, 04:36:12 PM »
Noticed the date on this and wondered how I missed it.  It is great that you enjoyed yourself.  May have to join the crowd.   H^^
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Re: 2010 NATS Fun Scale - I had fun!
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2010, 06:23:28 AM »
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Jump right in, the waters fine.
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Re: 2010 NATS Fun Scale - I had fun!
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2010, 10:38:49 AM »
Well step one has been accomplished. I now have a 4C engine.  I picked up a Saito 120S on Ebay for $150.  Seller claimed it had been run only twice. This turned out to be a lie. Motor had a bent push rod tube and push rod.  I replaced the push rods, gaskets and some bad screws. I now have about $75 invested in the motor. By the way the push rod tube can be straightened by forcing a drill bit through it.  It is very soft aluminum and the dent came right out.

I test ran my Saito 120S today. It runs great! It turns a 15X7 3 bladed prop at 8,900 RPS on 15% 4C fuel. It idles at 1700 RPMs. Speck calls for a Range 0f 2000 to 10,000 RPMs with a prop range of 14X10 to 16X8. Starts easy, transitions well and purrs at any throttle setting.

I plan to install in my yellow Extra 300S. Right now I have a ST 90 in this airplane. The ST has been a pain in the neck. It will quit in the middle of a flight for no good reason.  And at some throttle settings will load up and quit.  The Saito weighs more than the ST 90 but I have a big chunk of lead in the noise so I will be able to adjuse accordingling.

Photo attached of the Saito on the test stand and the EXTRA 300S I plan to convert from 2C to 4C.
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Offline john e. holliday

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Re: 2010 NATS Fun Scale - I had fun!
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2010, 09:19:01 AM »
Glad the engine worked out for you.  As you well know you take chances on the bay.  The plane ought to fly a lot better. H^^
John E. "DOC" Holliday
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