Hi ,

Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase Classic B team racer plans ?

I've gone to RC Universe and found a few I was looking for , but I'd like to get my hands on a set of "Quest" plans (not in Spanish, though).

Thanks ,

Rob K.

here is a list of Vintage B-Team Racers on my CD.

Able Gull   V-B-TR   1963 Aero Modeler Ap         .29   Williams, Granger
Able Mable   V-B-TR   1950 Model Airplane News Dc p20   24.00   148.75   .29   Clark, Dick
Absolute Minimum   V-B-TR   1960 American Modeler Fb p54   24.00   76.50   .29   Burke, Don
All Metal   V-B-TR   1956 Model Airplane News Ja p20   28.00   161.70   .29   Williams, Granger
Bartlet Bullet   V-B-TR   1953 AT My p32   25.75   129.50   .29   Bartlett, Warren E
Blue Tango   V-B-TR   2000 Aero Modeler Fb p15   25.75   135.00   .29   Greenwood, Al & Frank
Bluebottle   V-B-TR   Aero Modeler   32.00   180.00   .29   West, C.S.
Blunder Buster   V-B-TR   1955 AT Mr p42   30.00   150.00   .29   Schuver, Ron
B-TR   FAI-B-TR   Modellflygnytt   31.50   89.57   .29   Pontan, Sven
Cardinal Puff   V-B-TR   1951 Aviation Modeler Mr   29.50   261.00   .29   Taylor, C.A.
Challenger   V-B-TR    1952 Model Airplane News My p26   26.50   175.50   .29d   Shulman, Leon
Chatterbox   V-B-TR    1949 Model Airplane News Ap p10   31.00   130.00   .29   Conrad, Keith
Chicken Hawk   V-B-TR   unknown   40.00   150.00   .29   Brown, James H.
Chow Hound   V-B-TR     1952 AT Mr p29   26.00   150.75   .29   Thompson, Bryant A
Circle Burners   V-B-TR   1960 American Modeler Ag p37   36.00   134.00   .29   Norsikian, Dick
Crescendo   V-B-TR   unknown   33.60   134.75   .29   Taylor, K.
Dalesman   V-B-TR   1960 Aero Modeler Jl   33.37   110.14   .29   Long, Ken
De.H. TK 4   V-B-TR   1951 Aero Modeler Ja p19   30.50   150.00   .29   Moulton, R.G.
Double Dice   V-B-TR   unknown   29.50   125.25   .29   Derwal, P. & Taylor, C. & McNess J.
Dude   V-B-TR   1957 Flying Models Jn p12   27.25   136.25   .29   Carvalho, Tony D.
Firecracker   V-B-TR   1951 Model Airplane News Dc p34   30.00   166.00   .29   Ealy, Dick
Firecracker az   V-B-TR   1950 AMH Ag p9   25.36   108.00   .29   staff design
Fire-Cracker II   V-B-TR   unknown   28.20   135.35   .29   unknown
Folkerts Racer   V-B-TR   1951 AT Sp p38   19.75   48.50   .29   Musciano, Walt A
Gee Mac   V-B-TR   1950 Aviation Modeler Ot p370   28.00   160.00   .29   Evans, B.M.
Greenfly   V-B-TR   1952 aMA Jl p312   31.00   144.00   .29   West, Cyril S.
Hustler III   V-B-TR   1960 AT Annl p29   32.00   126.75   .29   
Jezebel   V-B-TR   1951 AT Dc p35   27.00   144.00   .29   Bourgeois, Henry M
Joker   B-TR   unknown   33.21   109.60   .29   Kidd, Dave
Kessler   V-B-TR   1957 Flying Models Nv p20   27.50   132.75   .29   Keville, Mike
Kestrel   V-B-TR   1956 Aviation Modeler My p156   30.00   160.50   .29   Godfrey, P.N.
Key   V-B-TR   1949 AT Mr p41   27.00   135.00   .29   Storey, Keith
Lazy daisy   V-B-TR   1951 Aero Modeler My p279   28.00   127.50   .29   Wheeler, Pat
Leighnor Special   V-B-TR   1957 American Modeler Jl p28   28.00   166.00   .29   Plecan, Paul
Lil Milke Special   V-B-TR   unknown   32.00   144.90   .29   Haley, Paul
Long Gone 6   F2C-TR   1962 Model Airplane News Ag p20   28.75   144.50   .29   Heiser, Ed
Man ‘O’ War   V-B-TR   1950 Aero Modeler Jl    26.50   131.00   .29   Moulton, R.G.
Mew Gull   V-B-TR   1949 Flying Models Dc p10   30.00   144.00   .29   Smith, S Cal
Migrator   V-B-TR   1956 Aero Modeler Dc   28.00   126.00   .29   Lutker, Bob
Miles M20   V-B-TR   1951 Aviation Modeler My p222   25.50   141.5   .29   Smith, W.H.
Nemesis   V-B-TR   Aero Modeler    28.75   142.25   .29   Gottarelli, G.
Nimbus   V-B-TR   1956 Aviation Modeler Fb p 82   30.00   225.00   .29   Wilde, H.F.
Ole Slippery   V-B-TR   1952 AT Annl p55   30.00   159.00   .29   Smith, S Cal
Ole Slippery   V-B-TR   1965 American Modeler Annl p84   30.00   159.00   .29   Smith, S Cal
Ole Slippery   V-B-TR   1979 AT CFM-S p48   30.00   159.00   .29   Smith, S Cal
Papa Taca IX   V-B-TR   1967 American Modeler Nv p16   35.00   135.00   .29   Perkins, Walt B
Presto   V-B-TR   1952 Aero Modeler Ag p467   24.00   129.00   .29   Hall, H.E.
Pronto   V-B-TR   unknown   29.25   162.50   .29   Bellamy, Adrian
Quest   V-B-TR   1951 Model Airplane News Jl p14   29.75   135.00   .29   Storey, Keith
Rambler 59   V-B-TR   unknown   30.00   109.00   .29   Moir, George
Razzamchas   V-B-TR   1961 Aero Modeler Ot p518   30.50   161.00   .29   Taylor, C.
Red Lightning   V-B-TR   1950 Aviation Modeler Dc p447   29.00   151.00   .29   Rowe, D.W.
Redskin   V-B-TR   Veco Kit   31.00   170.00   .29   Lee, Clarence
Riveter   V-B-TR   1993 Aero Modeler Ag   28.00   140.00   .29   Rae, Gordon
Scramble   V-B-TR   1951 Aero Modeler Nv p659   27.00   131.00   .29   Jones, J.W.
Scrambler   V-B-TR   1954 Model Airplane News Ot p9   27.00   126.00   .29   McBrayer, Les
Sheik   V-B-TR   1954 Model Airplane News Ja p16   25.00   132.00   .29   Johnson, Ken B & Walsh, Aand
Skidoo   V-B-TR   Fawcett plan #1008   24.50   144.00   .29   unknown
Sloe Boat   V-B-TR   2000 Aero Modeler Fb p15   27.75   143.75   .29   Greenwood, Al
Sorcerer   V-B-TR   1954 Aero Modeler Mr   27.50   150.50   .29   Cameron, P.
Starbomb   V-B-TR   unknown   25.00   107.75   .29   Evans, Bill
Stinson   V-B-TR   1961 American Modeler Ag p22   30.88   126.00   .29   Stinson, Bill
Super Saint   V-B-TR   1952 Aero Modeler            29.00   125.00   .29   Marsh, Ken
Super Sky Lancer   V-B-TR   1959 Model Airplane News Jn p20   29.50   136.20   .29   Harp, Ed & Nedela, Joe
Tantivvy   V-B-TR   1953 Aero Modeler Annual   27.00   166.00   .29   Taylor, C.
Team Racer #3   V-B-TR   1951 Model Airplane News Fb p21   26.00   126.00   .29   Musciano, Walt A
Teamster   V-B-TR   1954 Flying Models Jn p9   25.50   86.00   .29   Stevenson, Harold
Thunderbird   V-B-TR   Mercury Kit   29.00   134.50   .29   McGoun, Sid
TR Design   V-B-TR   Model Airplane News Design   27.00   133.00   .29   staff design
Vantage   V-B-TR   FROG Kit   26.40   143.00   .29   unknown
Wrangler   V-B-TR   1953 Model Airplane News Jl p16   27.50   160.00   .299   Chinn, Peter G F
print the plans page and go to a (Kinko's - Office Max etc) and have the plans enlarged to full size.

Double Dice   V-B-TR   unknown   29.50   125.25   .29   Derwal, P. & Taylor, C. & McNess J.

I have a scan of a Double Dice plan, "drawn from the original model" in 1988. It has the signatures of John McNess and Chas Taylor, certifying that it is accurate and:

"We can confirm that the design originated in 1955"


The Crescendo plan I have is a scan from Model News, February 1961

The Dalesman was published in Aeromodeller in 1960, but apparently flew from about 1958.

I am pretty sure Dave no longer makes anymore kits.  I asked many months ago and said he stoped making them.  I am in contant contact with him and he made no mention of kits. I finished and painted an Ole Slipery that he built. Repaired his Ablel Mable and now mine and need to finish covering/ painting his Challenger.  I also have a Firecracker kit he made for B-Team race.  The vast majority of UC flyers are solely stunt.  Nothing wrong about stunt just makes other UC with mostly nobody to share interest with. Combat/ racing/ Carrier darn near dead down here. [Tucson]

I just google Berkley team racers and came up with an AMA history on Berkley and Bill Effinger. This is a great read on model history. Effinger used many experts of the day to contribute to his kit designs, in addition to his own talents. Keith Story. team race expert designed  both the "Key" and the "Quest" which became Berkley kits.

I played "guess the answers" for a while and gave up. Are all of the words the same as the colors?
Chris...

I played "guess the answers" for a while and gave up. Are all of the words the same as the colors?
Chris...

What 

I don't recall it being all that hard to get access to Hippocket Forum and Plans Gallery. But it has been a while, or maybe I was lucky.

Maybe a message to the powers-that-be at HPA (Ratz and Sundance12) could fix it?

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This thread got started from the "Quest". There's a fairly recent redrawn plan at
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1530258&page=8
... along with lots of other TR material.