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Offline Motorman

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Blocks Behind tank
« on: August 04, 2014, 03:03:34 PM »
Are you allowed to put streamlining balsa blocks behind the fuel tank on a slow rat?

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Re: Blocks Behind tank
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2014, 06:01:09 PM »
It's been done forever. I've never seen anybody get carried away with  it however.

Doesn't help anything since that area is in the shadow of the engine anyhow.

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Re: Blocks Behind tank
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2014, 06:13:49 PM »
Ok, what about a flying wing in slow rat where the horizontal stabilizer is attached to the wing like an F2C racer?

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Re: Blocks Behind tank
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2014, 06:25:26 PM »
Ok, what about a flying wing in slow rat where the horizontal stabilizer is attached to the wing like an F2C racer?

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OK, as long as there's 22 in from drive washer to elev hinge, and there's a horizontal stabilizer
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Re: Blocks Behind tank
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2014, 06:31:54 PM »
Ok, what about a flying wing in slow rat where the horizontal stabilizer is attached to the wing like an F2C racer?

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Something similar to this, but with the horizontal mounted as shown but an elevator on the wing TE.
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Re: Blocks Behind tank
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2014, 08:43:05 PM »
No, I mean all one piece like this.



This has 1/4" between wing and stab to slip the rules but what if they were connected, would it be legal? The tab out the back does provide horizontal stability. The rule says must have horizontal stabilizer but does that mean a devise that provides horizontal stability (flying wing with flap on TE) or, does that mean the stabilizer has to be horizontal as in flat and separated from the wing?

I would think you would have a problem saying what is wing area and what is stab area. Can the elevator be considered the stab, it provides horizontal stability. If so then everything in front of the elevator that's connected to the wing is wing area, right?

And what about Vee tail. If you have a Vee tail do you need a rudder. Some combine the canopy and rudder together, why not combine the stab and rudder in a Vee tail as long as you have a canopy.

Looking at the other rules about canopy, rudder, fuselage ect I think the intent might have been to make models that look like conventional airplanes and not control line specific bat planes or combat jobs with a wheel added, which is something I agree on.

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Re: Blocks Behind tank
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2014, 09:40:20 PM »
Either way pushes the rules, but IMO both are within the letter of the rules, not necessarily within the intent.

I've tried a couple of different configs, the 2CN as shown and an SSR.  The 2CN was more stable than the flying wings I've built.  Both designs were built see if we could get some longitudinal stability to the flying wing config without resorting to some kind of funny airfoil.  The SSR had the fixed horizontal above and the elevator on the TE.  I made the horizontal removable to see if there was a difference.  We proved to ourselves on consecutive flights with and without the horizontal there certainly was. 
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