Author Topic: Todays progress (pics) (Read 2805 times)

RC Storick · « **on:** February 14, 2013, 10:46:03 PM »

I spent most of the day doing the clean battery install. Super meticulous very small cramped spaces. I am still detail sanding. If I don't make front row it wont be from the lack of trying. I do however see a military scheme in the works as it would be lighter and with the plane together I can better keep a eye on its weight. It'd creeping up and you don't know where its coming from. Funny.

Alan Resinger · « **Reply #1 on:** February 15, 2013, 04:08:43 AM »

Sparky,
Looking good. Curious about the small knob behind your timer switch. What is that?
Alan Resinger

RC Storick · « **Reply #2 on:** February 15, 2013, 08:52:03 AM »

Quote from: Alan Resinger on February 15, 2013, 04:08:43 AM

Sparky,
Looking good. Curious about the small knob behind your timer switch. What is that?
Alan Resinger

Electric needle valve. Adjust RPM 500 up -down 250 each way

Dave Denison · « **Reply #3 on:** February 19, 2013, 09:56:14 PM »

Sparky

How are you coming out on the "paint and weights"? I see you have color on the Crossfire, now it gets interesting.

Regards
Dave
ama41041

RC Storick · « **Reply #4 on:** February 20, 2013, 09:32:57 PM »

Quote from: Dave Denison on February 19, 2013, 09:56:14 PM

Sparky

How are you coming out on the "paint and weights"? I see you have color on the Crossfire, now it gets interesting.

Regards
Dave
ama41041

Paint weight is right on target. As you see it here 57 OZ. I don't think I will add more than 3 oz in the finish in trim and clear. Unfortunately I will not be using urethane,(well I might) just clear dope.

wwwarbird · « **Reply #5 on:** February 20, 2013, 10:21:33 PM »

Lookin' good so far Sparky!

Obviously there's a lot more coming yet, but are you going to extend the red graphic in front of the canopy too?

MarcusCordeiro · « **Reply #6 on:** February 21, 2013, 07:24:11 AM »

That looks terrific!!

Marcus

RC Storick · « **Reply #7 on:** February 21, 2013, 08:39:40 AM »

progress is slow because I am painting RED. I hate using read as a trim color because the tape job has to be perfect. Red will find anywhere to bleed. So if you are using read as a trim color take heed and tape well.

My choices are all about weight. I am using doors instead of pants because they weigh only 4 grams each. I choose grey to use less paint. I have found the the wire in this plane is extremely heavy and I will shorten them up. A 2 inch jumper wire is 6 grams. so there is a foot of wire in the plane and if I can take out 6 inches that's a half ounce.

Derek Barry · « **Reply #8 on:** February 21, 2013, 08:58:11 AM »

You are absolutely correct about red. It does not matter how carefull I am I always have a blow through somewhere. Looks good Spark, keep it up. Don't worry about the doors, Howard makes the front row every year with wire gear.

Derek

RC Storick · « **Reply #9 on:** February 21, 2013, 09:27:47 AM »

Quote from: Derek Barry on February 21, 2013, 08:58:11 AM

You are absolutely correct about red. It does not matter how carefull I am I always have a blow through somewhere. Looks good Spark, keep it up. Don't worry about the doors, Howard makes the front row every year with wire gear.

Derek

I dont see front row this year. No paint

Derek Barry · « **Reply #10 on:** February 21, 2013, 10:09:10 AM »

Quote from: Robert Storick on February 21, 2013, 09:27:47 AM

I dont see front row this year. No paint

Ink does not weigh anything!!!!

BTW do you need paint masks?

Derek

RC Storick · « **Reply #11 on:** February 21, 2013, 10:19:56 AM »

I would like a couple of these for the rudder.

Derek Barry · « **Reply #12 on:** February 21, 2013, 11:08:19 AM »

Quote from: Robert Storick on February 21, 2013, 10:19:56 AM

I would like a couple of these for the rudder.

That would be a pretty complicated 3 step mask. I would have one of the ink jet printer guys make you those.

Derek

RC Storick · « **Reply #13 on:** February 21, 2013, 01:33:33 PM »

Quote from: Derek Barry on February 21, 2013, 11:08:19 AM

That would be a pretty complicated 3 step mask. I would have one of the ink jet printer guys make you those.

Derek

OK how about this?

this is a easy one

Glenn (Gravitywell) Reach · « **Reply #14 on:** February 21, 2013, 01:41:02 PM »

Actually, I really like the scheme the way it is. I'm a basic, uncluttered (except my work table!) kind of guy. Its simple and good looking.

Derek Barry · « **Reply #15 on:** February 21, 2013, 02:56:16 PM »

Hey Sparky,

I am sure I could handle either one of those. Just let me know.

Derek

Avaiojet · « **Reply #16 on:** February 21, 2013, 03:56:46 PM »

Quote from: Derek Barry on February 21, 2013, 08:58:11 AM

You are absolutely correct about red. It does not matter how carefull I am I always have a blow through somewhere. Looks good Spark, keep it up. Don't worry about the doors, Howard makes the front row every year with wire gear. VD~Derek

You could spray the taped edge with a quick coat of clear to seal the edge.

Then shoot the color. Prevents bleeding. Well, it should.

Charles

RC Storick · « **Reply #17 on:** February 21, 2013, 04:43:23 PM »

Quote from: Avaiojet on February 21, 2013, 03:56:46 PM

You could spray the taped edge with a quick coat of clear to seal the edge.

Then shoot the color. Prevents bleeding. Well, it should.

Charles

I get no bleed under the tape. It the areas that are not tapped that pick up red dust.

Dave Denison · « **Reply #18 on:** February 21, 2013, 06:00:45 PM »

Sparky

Outstanding so far, as Glenn said in a previous post, keep it simple, keep it clean. Are you going to use a third trim color, if so, what will it be? To save weight on mine I also used wheel spats as opposed to making more elaborate wheel pants and down legs. The lines of the Crossfire lend themselves to long flowing clean lines down the fuselage. I do like your last two Sparky Logos that you've shown, I have not found an interesting one to put on my FinessE at this point.

Keep the ideas and the pictures coming, looks like your weights should be well within the ballpark. Here is a side shot of mine, giving you some ideas for flowing the colors and the long lines that the Crossfire shows off well.

Regards
Dave

ama 41041

wwwarbird · « **Reply #19 on:** February 21, 2013, 07:57:49 PM »

Quote from: Robert Storick on February 21, 2013, 10:19:56 AM

I would like a couple of these for the rudder.

HA! "Ready Kilowatt" would be super cool Sparky, you gotta find a way to make it happen.

Crist Rigotti · « **Reply #20 on:** February 21, 2013, 09:06:40 PM »

Quote from: wwwarbird on February 21, 2013, 07:57:49 PM

HA! "Ready Kilowatt" would be super cool Sparky, you gotta find a way to make it happen.

How about using a decal of ole Ready!

RC Storick · « **Reply #21 on:** February 21, 2013, 09:25:10 PM »

Quote from: Crist Rigotti on February 21, 2013, 09:06:40 PM

How about using a decal of ole Ready!

Been searching for a hr for a water slide decal but can't find one yet. I might have to buy a inkjet printer and paper

It's creeping as it sits here 58 OZ. No tip weight or clear.

Steve Helmick · « **Reply #22 on:** February 21, 2013, 11:30:18 PM »

A Smokey the Bear decal might be another option.

Steve

"Only YOU can prevent electrical fires!"

RC Storick · « **Reply #23 on:** February 22, 2013, 02:29:53 PM »

I would like to publicly thank Wil Hubin for his great service and products. He sent me at no charge a new FM9 timer ever though I was the one responsible for the damage to the first one.

RC Storick · « **Reply #24 on:** February 22, 2013, 03:12:04 PM »

today I added 1 OZ of tip weight bringing the grad total to 1680 grams. 59.25 with clear left to go. So I don't think I will make under 60 OZ but should make under 62 with clear. That's 2.25 oz of clear paint. I hope I can do it in 1 but I know me Bet I can't. For some reason there is something about a slick shiny airplane that draws me to finish that way even though I know better. If you want it light you can't add paint.

RC Storick · « **Reply #25 on:** February 22, 2013, 03:53:27 PM »

Quote from: Robert Storick on February 22, 2013, 03:12:04 PM

today I added 1 OZ of tip weight bringing the grad total to 1680 grams. 59.25 with clear left to go. So I don't think I will make under 60 OZ but should make under 62 with clear. That's 2.25 oz of clear paint. I hope I can do it in 1 but I know me Bet I can't. For some reason there is something about a slick shiny airplane that draws me to finish that way even though I know better. If you want it light you can't add paint.

I just got a volunteer "John" is going to make me 2 decals like this for the rudder

Steve Fitton · « **Reply #26 on:** February 22, 2013, 04:56:02 PM »

the white parts of the decal will be hard without an ALPs printer...

Avaiojet · « **Reply #27 on:** February 22, 2013, 06:40:45 PM »

Depending on the size, they could be made out of vinyl and layered for the different colors.

Cutters can only do so much when things get small. Blade and all.

I do have a wholesale printer that does my full color.

Charles

RandySmith · « **Reply #28 on:** February 22, 2013, 07:00:41 PM »

Just put the decals over the white painted base and you will not have to worry about it

Randy

Mark Scarborough · « **Reply #29 on:** February 22, 2013, 08:31:14 PM »

Quote from: Avaiojet on February 22, 2013, 06:40:45 PM

Depending on the size, they could be made out of vinyl and layered for the different colors.

Cutters can only do so much when things get small. Blade and all.

I do have a wholesale printer that does my full color.

Charles

Charles,,
you kinda miss the point with a stunt ship,, every gram matters,, adding enough clear to blend the thickness of a vinyl sticker adds weight in the worst possible place,, on the tail,,,
also, my small little ameture home cutter would cut that design with no problem at all, I have done lettering down to a quarter inch before,, that design has thickness and no real areas of concern except for the multicolor,,,

Tim Wescott · « **Reply #30 on:** February 22, 2013, 08:43:04 PM »

Quote from: Mark Scarborough on February 22, 2013, 08:31:14 PM

Charles,,
you kinda miss the point with a stunt ship,, every gram matters,, adding enough clear to blend the thickness of a vinyl sticker adds weight in the worst possible place,, on the tail,,,
also, my small little ameture home cutter would cut that design with no problem at all, I have done lettering down to a quarter inch before,, that design has thickness and no real areas of concern except for the multicolor,,,

If this is the one that's coming out nose heavy, then extra weight on the tail isn't going to be a big problem.

Unless Sparky's fixed the nose heavy problem.

RC Storick · « **Reply #31 on:** February 22, 2013, 08:53:26 PM »

Quote from: Tim Wescott on February 22, 2013, 08:43:04 PM

If this is the one that's coming out nose heavy, then extra weight on the tail isn't going to be a big problem.

Unless Sparky's fixed the nose heavy problem.

I never want to add weight I would rather removed it from the nose.

RC Storick · « **Reply #32 on:** February 23, 2013, 11:12:44 AM »

Logo for the wing

Avaiojet · « **Reply #33 on:** February 23, 2013, 12:11:09 PM »

Quote from: Mark Scarborough on February 22, 2013, 08:31:14 PM

Charles,,
you kinda miss the point with a stunt ship,, every gram matters,, adding enough clear to blend the thickness of a vinyl sticker adds weight in the worst possible place,, on the tail,,,
also, my small little ameture home cutter would cut that design with no problem at all, I have done lettering down to a quarter inch before,, that design has thickness and no real areas of concern except for the multicolor,,,

Mark,

I never mentioned clearing the vinyl sticker. I don't recommend it.

Charles

Glenn (Gravitywell) Reach · « **Reply #34 on:** February 23, 2013, 12:32:35 PM »

That wing logo looks awesome!

Mark Scarborough · « **Reply #35 on:** February 23, 2013, 06:18:11 PM »

Quote from: Avaiojet on February 23, 2013, 12:11:09 PM

Mark,

I never mentioned clearing the vinyl sticker. I don't recommend it.

Charles

in order to get the appearance we desire for STUNT competition, clear would be necessary both for a smooth glossy finish, and fuel proofing the vinyl,, so by referring to layering, you meant multiple layers of vinyl,, not clear over the vinyl,, that makes it worse,, not better,,

Paint would most generally be prefered,, its much lighter than vinyl,, and much more attractive,,

anyway, back to sparky's build,, sorry for the hijack Robert,,
simple and clean so far,,

Randy Powell · « **Reply #36 on:** February 23, 2013, 06:42:37 PM »

Well, fuel proofing isn't necessary, but the thing does need to be durable and you have to clean it.

Mark Scarborough · « **Reply #37 on:** February 23, 2013, 06:51:59 PM »

I dont know Randy, some of them people in the Pits are kinda sloppy when they set their needle,,,,

john e. holliday · « **Reply #38 on:** February 24, 2013, 08:34:19 AM »

Yeah, we need a rule against running engines in he pits. Have lost cont many times I have seen people running engines with the exhaust blowing all over other peoples planes.

RC Storick · « **Reply #39 on:** February 24, 2013, 09:21:16 AM »

a little closer. I am debaiting on yellow and black or red white and blue as trim colors. Or black and white checkerboards

RC Storick · « **Reply #40 on:** February 24, 2013, 02:02:20 PM »

side view

MarcusCordeiro · « **Reply #41 on:** February 24, 2013, 02:56:47 PM »

The more I see it, the more I like it...

Marcus

RC Storick · « **Reply #42 on:** February 24, 2013, 03:30:23 PM »

Quote from: MarcusCordeiro on February 24, 2013, 02:56:47 PM

The more I see it, the more I like it...

Marcus

Wattman on the rudder. How cool is that?

Steve Helmick · « **Reply #43 on:** February 24, 2013, 03:59:22 PM »

Looks good, Sparky!

Steve

MarcusCordeiro · « **Reply #44 on:** February 24, 2013, 06:01:22 PM »

Quote from: Robert Storick on February 24, 2013, 03:30:23 PM

Wattman on the rudder. How cool is that?

Very cool Robert, I'd say "shocking"...

Marcus

Randy Powell · « **Reply #45 on:** February 24, 2013, 07:09:16 PM »

Looks very cool, Robert. Couple of guys build Crossfires up here. They are nice flying planes.

John Jordan · « **Reply #46 on:** February 25, 2013, 04:00:31 AM »

you need yellow & black to go with watman & crossfire logos

wwwarbird · « **Reply #47 on:** February 25, 2013, 12:22:20 PM »

Two cents here Sparky...

Glad to see the red added on the nose. I think it needs the thin red line on the wings and stab to match the fuse. From there I guess I'd think about somehow adding some blue. Maybe the blue on the bottom third of the fuse with a big "USA" or something over the grey in between the red and blue. Don't make "Reddy" feel like you have to add more yellow to the scheme just because of him being on the tail, he'll be just fine as is.

Tim Wescott · « **Reply #48 on:** February 25, 2013, 01:54:06 PM »

Quote from: Mark Scarborough on February 23, 2013, 06:51:59 PM

I dont know Randy, some of them people in the Pits are kinda sloppy when they set their needle,,,,

Not to mention a pilot who came up to me at the NW Regionals last year and muttered "my fuel line just slipped off my syringe, and I squirted fuel all over an electric plane" before gathering his courage and going to find the owner.

Electrics still need fuel-proof finishes, or at least finishes that are fuel resistant enough to take the occasional accidental dribble or squirt, or blast from an engine exhaust.

Will Hinton · « **Reply #49 on:** February 25, 2013, 02:45:07 PM »

I'm really glad you went with Wattman on the rudder, that's perfect!!