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Re: Front-Row Finish Tips from the Jive Combat Team
« Reply #100 on: June 10, 2012, 12:41:32 PM »
It was indeed a downmarket bird, probably on its way back to Kent and mistook discarded fuel tubing for worms.   A good cat wouldn't let this happen, but birds have little respect for Spencer.
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Re: Front-Row Finish Tips from the Jive Combat Team
« Reply #101 on: June 10, 2012, 12:45:48 PM »
Howard,, are you having better luck this time getting the paint to stick to your trousers?

I haven't messed with the trousers lately.  I'll try them on if time and weight permit.
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Re: Front-Row Finish Tips from the Jive Combat Team
« Reply #102 on: June 14, 2012, 04:48:54 PM »
You haven't messed in your trousers lately? Well, that's good, I guess.

Are there pictures of the plane? I don't to see trousers that have been messed in.
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Re: Front-Row Finish Tips from the Jive Combat Team
« Reply #103 on: June 14, 2012, 07:22:52 PM »
There are no pictures of the plane, and it's not photogenic.  I am trying to install the electrickery while the plane and I are gassing off prior to my tooting the Isocyanate Death Paint.   
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Re: Front-Row Finish Tips from the Jive Combat Team
« Reply #104 on: June 15, 2012, 11:53:33 AM »
Wear a mask. I understand the fumes are toxic. Well, maybe not to you, but to most of us.
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Re: Front-Row Finish Tips from the Jive Combat Team
« Reply #105 on: June 15, 2012, 11:56:02 AM »
There are no pictures of the plane, and it's not photogenic.  I am trying to install the electrickery while the plane and I are gassing off prior to my tooting the Isocyanate Death Paint.   

electrickery....yuck!

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« Reply #106 on: June 19, 2012, 04:34:30 PM »
Jive Combat Team Front Row Finish Tip 14.  When you forget to use the tack cloth, do it when you spray something soft like dope, not harder-than-diamond Isocyanate Death Paint.
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Re: Front-Row Finish Tips from the Jive Combat Team
« Reply #107 on: June 19, 2012, 04:43:57 PM »
Another thing I noticed was that either the Isocyanate Death Paint got into the mechanism of my official CF Slattery paint stand and caused extra friction, or the extra friction came from the ponderous weight of the IDP.   I blew it on thick.
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Re: Front-Row Finish Tips from the Jive Combat Team
« Reply #108 on: June 19, 2012, 06:36:36 PM »
Howard,, ONE coat right?

and how did it turn out,, aside from dust,,
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Re: Front-Row Finish Tips from the Jive Combat Team
« Reply #109 on: June 20, 2012, 01:32:00 PM »
It looks good.  If it dries, I'll sand out the cat hair and polish it up using the Granderson Machine Buffing System.
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Re: Front-Row Finish Tips from the Jive Combat Team
« Reply #110 on: June 20, 2012, 01:42:23 PM »
It looks good.  If it dries, I'll sand out the cat hair
Just tell them its your version of Turbulator strips on the wing, calculated precisly to match the boundry layer thickness and flow in those areas due to some obscure mathmatics,,
( of course then you would have to scribble some convincing mumbo jumbo formulas to support it,, )
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Re: Front-Row Finish Tips from the Jive Combat Team
« Reply #111 on: June 20, 2012, 03:37:18 PM »
The boundary layer thickness at the thickest part of the wing is about that of the bump in the clearcoat from a cat hair.  I posted a plot from XFoil somewhere here.
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Re: Front-Row Finish Tips from the Jive Combat Team
« Reply #112 on: June 20, 2012, 03:44:14 PM »
See http://stunthanger.com/smf/index.php?topic=25877.0, post 29.  That's for an Impact with flaps at 30 degrees and an angle of attack of 10 degrees.  Boundary layer thickness is about .001 chord.
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Re: Front-Row Finish Tips from the Jive Combat Team
« Reply #113 on: June 20, 2012, 07:37:57 PM »
well then the work is already done,, lol
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Re: Front-Row Finish Tips from the Jive Combat Team
« Reply #114 on: June 21, 2012, 04:08:00 PM »
I know some scientists that work that way. They screw up then come up with math to justify it. Seems to work for them ... more or less.

I look forward to seeing it eventually.
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Re: Front-Row Finish Tips from the Jive Combat Team
« Reply #115 on: June 21, 2012, 08:32:56 PM »
I know some scientists that work that way. They screw up then come up with math to justify it. Seems to work for them ... more or less.

We learned about inertial navigation systems-- then a new thing-- in school.  They seemed hopelessly complicated.  I wondered how anybody ever figured it out.  Years later I met one of the guys who built one of the first systems.  They started with something basic and added patches until it worked.  Then they wrote it up as if it was all planned from the get-go, and that's what I read in school.
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Re: Front-Row Finish Tips from the Jive Combat Team
« Reply #116 on: June 23, 2012, 01:33:49 AM »
Back to paint.  I had the interesting experience of tooting the IDP (PPG Global D893 and friends), then going to the basement and tooting some rattle-can Rustoleum on a combat plane.  I decided that, considering the cost of the spray equipment and everything, that the Rustoleum's finish quality per dollar was just as good as the IDP's. 
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Re: Front-Row Finish Tips from the Jive Combat Team
« Reply #117 on: June 23, 2012, 09:54:40 AM »
Howard., very astute observation,,
of course, appearance judging has no accommodation for the quality per dollar quotient,, perhaps you should suggest that?
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Re: Front-Row Finish Tips from the Jive Combat Team
« Reply #118 on: June 23, 2012, 03:51:08 PM »
Howard had his custom, very stylist hat today at the Stunt-A-Thon. Kept the rain from draining down his neck anyway.
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Re: Front-Row Finish Tips from the Jive Combat Team
« Reply #119 on: June 23, 2012, 04:39:12 PM »
Ya... you don't get what you don't pay for... but the real shocker here is that someone is actually PAINTING a combat plane... I thought all the new fangled ones had carbon booms, clear plastic baggie wings and an aluminum bolt on front-end?
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Back to paint.  I had the interesting experience of tooting the IDP (PPG Global D893 and friends), then going to the basement and tooting some rattle-can Rustoleum on a combat plane.  I decided that, considering the cost of the spray equipment and everything, that the Rustoleum's finish quality per dollar was just as good as the IDP's. 

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Re: Front-Row Finish Tips from the Jive Combat Team
« Reply #120 on: July 16, 2012, 10:11:19 PM »
And here it is on the front row as advertised.
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Re: Front-Row Finish Tips from the Jive Combat Team
« Reply #121 on: July 16, 2012, 10:59:57 PM »
The circle is now complete.

Front row as predicted - well done Howard.

Perhaps a selfish photo of just your model by itself? Front Row cant really call it dog anymore !

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Re: Front-Row Finish Tips from the Jive Combat Team
« Reply #122 on: July 16, 2012, 11:27:35 PM »
Howard,, great to see it up front,, so I guess the judges are also cat hair fans then?
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Re: Front-Row Finish Tips from the Jive Combat Team
« Reply #123 on: July 17, 2012, 12:35:59 AM »
Mark - Im fairly certain the cat hair was located in mass on the fin and back section - Spencer is Orange and white - so the colour choice was mostly dictated by where ,and what colour the hair was.


great slight of hand by JCT

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