Brett,
please tell me why you hate ST60 engines and their well known stunt run. A lot of pilots around the world
wont burn the circle with a chainsaw sounding ear killing crying piped thing you call engine. You left no chance out
to blame Super Tigre engines whenever a topic is talking about. Was something bad happened in your youth with
ST engines or do you lost to much competitions ? I only want to understand. (This is ironic and not to serious, please)
Dietmar
BTW when they are not competitive since 1993, why did they still win WC?
I don't hate them. I say there are much better options in the year 2018, including 4-strokes, several different widely available semi-custom engines like the PA or RO-Jett, feedback electric systems, and even a better version of the ST60 - the Discovery-Retro 60 (which does everything the ST60 was claimed to do, but never actually did - like a ST60 with actual engineers working on it, instead of salesmen).
BTW, I referred to Windy's comments about how they were obsolete. He spend about 5000 words trying to explain why you needed to have a separate event for 4-2 break engines and wood props (Model Aviation 1993 NATS report) because they were uncompetitive otherwise. Which was one of the more accurate things he ever said or wrote.
What I do have a personal animus over regarding the ST60 is not the engine itself, but some of the ST60 promoters/salesman. Not all of them, just a few - but they were (and still are) relentless. They cause the event, many of my friends, and me, many hours of irritation over the topic, as far as I can tell, so they could sell off the last of their ST60s. The second that happened, hey, guess what, we found something better - Saito 4-strokes
(for which we have just acquired a franchise). After which it continued with new players, sometimes to the point that something Wynn Paul allegedly did in 1985 was later attributed to, say, Frank McMillan or Ted Fancher or Paul Walker, whoever's character they thought needed assassination at the time.
They played (play) the victim, time after time, always being "kept down by the man" by the "eiltist" - a game that some of the hanger-on STILL play as recently as a few weeks ago. We had people threatening various things up to and including *shooting a judge* leading briefly to the cancellation of the 1997 team trials which later proceeded with an ARMED GUARD, the near-destruction of PAMPA over the stupid misinterpretation of a profit statement, a PAMPA president going FAR out of his way to bad-mouth the most revered administrator, in print, over a ridiculous perceived slight, a lawsuit that led to a retired Iowa schoolteacher sued by a millionaire for "wiretapping" for having overhead a conversation that wound up getting tossed out of Federal district court as "vexatious" and the on-going attempts to destroy the event over the BOM. We had a demand to overturn PAMPA election results, apparently over his very slight dismissal of a Saito engine, but claimed to be "racism" or something over the use of the phrase "Mama Mia!".
I have a question for you, and I genuinely want to know the answer - why is it that you think saying a particular thing you seem to like, or is in some way your favorite, is not the best, translate to "hate" for you?
I don't understand it at all, I am not emotionally invested in any engine, I use the engine (or anything else) that seems like it gives me the best chance of winning. I offer my observations to keep people from getting led astray, like thinking their $500+ would be well-spent on an engine that was more-or-less given up on 20 years ago by even the most ardent supporters. I don't hate the ST60 (or Fox 35, or Saito 56, etc), I just don't think they are a good way to go to be competitive in stunt in the year 2018. 1955 it was a different story, 1985 it was a different story, 1993 it was a different story, and it's a different story now.
Brett