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Things come up
« on: September 22, 2014, 11:37:14 AM »
Things are said typed or what ever that stick in my mind for future reference and Ununpentium was one of them. Bob Hunt had mentioned it at one time and here it is for real. http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/Element_115.htm

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Re: Things come up
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2014, 11:41:05 AM »
Hunt has always been a trendy guy......

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Re: Things come up
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2014, 11:55:41 AM »
Igor knows about this.

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Re: Things come up
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2014, 01:44:28 PM »
I'm sure Travis Taylor and Harold White will be thrilled about this.

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Re: Things come up
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2014, 09:59:13 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2014, 07:54:28 AM »
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Re: Things come up
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2014, 06:34:06 PM »
You should see the warp drive I am putting in my new stunter.   It can fly the pattern in 10.3 seconds.

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Re: Things come up
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2014, 07:16:47 PM »
You should see the warp drive I am putting in my new stunter.   It can fly the pattern in 10.3 seconds.
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Re: Things come up
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2014, 08:03:40 PM »
Things are said typed or what ever that stick in my mind for future reference and Ununpentium was one of them. Bob Hunt had mentioned it at one time and here it is for real. http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/Element_115.htm

   I like the part where they intermingle chemical and nuclear reactions.

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Re: Things come up
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2014, 09:19:38 PM »
   I like the part where they intermingle chemical and nuclear reactions.

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Re: Things come up
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2014, 10:53:33 PM »
Way over my head

  Not intrinsically, but in this case, it borders on illucid, blending real phenomena (like the element 115, which is certainly a real thing), basic misstatements of fact,  and utter and complete nuttery (UFO/Bob Lazar/antimatter drives, etc).

    You, and no one else, could ever possibly make any sense of it because it's, on the whole, gibberish.

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Re: Things come up
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2014, 12:23:47 PM »
"  You, and no one else, could ever possibly make any sense of it because it's, on the whole, gibberish. "

Yea, that was pretty much my take. Sort of like in 1997 when Miguel Alcubierre invented the "warp drive". Math says it will work. Now, if we can just generate the entire power output of the planet over 10 years all at once, we can power it. Created a sensation there for a bit.
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Re: Things come up
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2014, 12:48:50 PM »
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Re: Things come up
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2014, 12:53:26 PM »
Scientist don't even know where the moon came from.

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Re: Things come up
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2014, 01:27:19 PM »
Scientist don't even know where the moon came from.

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   Riight.   I await with great anticipation your theory on the moon's formation, and your carefully reasoned and mathematically proven rebuttal of the giant impact hypothesis.

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« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2014, 09:02:04 PM »
Guess he doesn't watch National Geographic or the Science Channel.   They go back to when our solar system got started and it wasn't a big bang either.
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Re: Things come up
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2014, 09:18:37 PM »
When I read Robert's link my first thoughts was it was a joke (the first sentence was enough) so I did a bit of googling. Ununpentium is real but not quite like in that link. It's so unstable that it decays long before it can be physically seen and is only assumed to exist because of the daughter particles it decays into. For a new element to be recognised it has to be found in two seperate and independent laboratories which has now been done. Ununpentium is just a nickname given to this new element because its final name is still to be determined.

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Re: Things come up
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2014, 09:55:18 PM »

   Riight.   I await with great anticipation your theory on the moon's formation, and your carefully reasoned and mathematically proven rebuttal of the giant impact hypothesis.

    Brett

I had read somewhere it came for the Pacific ocean after the earth spit it out but I guess and its just a guess it formed when everything else did. I wasn't there and neither was anyone else so no one can say for certain just like the Pyramids. it's all a guess. Occam's razor
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Re: Things come up
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2014, 12:57:00 AM »
I had read somewhere it came for the Pacific ocean after the earth spit it out but I guess and its just a guess it formed when everything else did. I wasn't there and neither was anyone else so no one can say for certain just like the Pyramids. it's all a guess. Occam's razor

   The leading theory is that very early (3.5-4 billion years ago), there was a collision between the Earth and an asteroid/planet about the size of Mars. This melted both and flung off debris, with later consolidated and became the moon, and the Earth was much larger. This explains the fact that the moon is mostly the same or very similar in mineral content to the Earth, and that the moon is "differentiated", i.e. has layers of dense to light material, and a metallic core (which may or may not still be molten to some degree).  If you melt everything the heavy stuff sinks to the bottom naturally.  This didn't dig out the pacific ocean basin, it's relatively new (seafloor spreading), as are continents.  The collision more-or-less melted everything, causing the differentiation.

The theory that it formed by accretion with the Earth is still held by some, possibly still including Jack Schmitt, the only scientist to go to the moon, as LM pilot on Apollo 17.

    If you are interested:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_Moon

   I learned something today, that there is a theory that proposes a "georeactor" explosion flung it off. A "georeactor" is a *naturally occurring* nuclear reactor, that is, enough fissionable material (U235 in this case) somehow reached a high enough concentration and an acceptable geometry and moderation to start a fission reaction spontaneously. This seems quite crazy, however, it did happen. In distant times (again, 4ish billion years ago) the concentration of U235 (as opposed to U238, which cannot spontaneously form a chain reaction) was high enough that it was possible. They have found a few semi-stable reactors in ancient rocks in South Africa, as I recall. They could tell because the fission products were present at abnormal levels. In this theory, a far bigger reactor actually blew up in a runaway chain reaction, blowing off bits to form the moon. It couldn't happen today because most of the U235 has decayed to be either stable or non-fissionable.

    You may not know this, either - the Earth's core is hot partly because it hasn't cooled off yet, and partially because radioactive materials are decay at a high enough rate to keep it from cooling off.

     I objected to the infamous Chuckie calling everybody liars, when he himself doesn't have the slightest notion whether what they say might be true, or not.

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Re: Things come up
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2014, 01:12:07 AM »
   You may not know this, either - the Earth's core is hot partly because it hasn't cooled off yet, and partially because radioactive materials are decay at a high enough rate to keep it from cooling off.
     Brett

Kind of like we are not over the ice age yet until the polar caps melt. I am not one for carbon tax as one volcanic eruption puts more into the air that if everyone  ran their cars and sprayed every can of  aerosol they had in the house all at the same time for a 24 hour period. Man is the flea on the dog.
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Re: Things come up
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2014, 05:52:12 PM »
How many moons are there keeping the other planets company? Most planets have multi-moons.

How likely is it that ALL of them colided with another planet?

Not likely at all.

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