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Offline Ward Van Duzer

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The way it was...
« on: January 20, 2008, 12:47:28 PM »
A couple of weeks ago we had a little piece going on the Union (NJ) Model Airplane Club. The UMAC. Reinhardt, Scarinzi, Hunts, Davies, et. al.

So look what I found this week! Sometimes it pays to clean up the shop!  #^

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Re: The way it was...
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2008, 01:20:40 PM »
Can you imagine hosting a contest now and having trophies 1st thru 3rd for Jr and Sr entries? For every event?  You'd load a case of unclaimed trophies back into the van at the end of the day.  :'(

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Re: The way it was...
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2008, 01:50:28 PM »
It occurred to me after I posted this that they advertised "Over a thousand dollars in trophies"...

With one dollar, and fifty cent entry fees?

And look at the list of events...Ah yes, those WERE the days.  y1


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Re: The way it was...
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2008, 02:19:23 PM »
Ward,
Boy, does that bring back memories! My last Union Meet was in 1964. I went to St Louis the fall of 1964.
 
Union was always very well attended. Even a lot of Scale airplanes.

Here is a picture of John Bonano's modified "T-Bird I" taken at Union 1960 or 1961. Many people made these changes BEFORE the "T-Bird II" came out. Note John D'Ottavio's "JD Falcon" in the background, with Larry Scarinzi's "Blitz" under the wing.
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Re: The way it was...
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2008, 04:27:48 PM »
I went to several Union contests. I flew AASr's and Smoothies. I won hand launch glider several times.Even flew a little combat with Quickers & Half Fast using Greenheads.Lived in Binghamton about 3.5 hr away. Jerry Hicky and Paul McLean from Bingo also went to the Union contests in the 60's
Ed
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Re: The way it was...
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2008, 09:56:14 PM »
Ward,
   I love this stuff. I'm sure I was at the contest but didn't have a handle in my hand just yet, since I was only Nine months old. Larry just gave me a flyer from 1970 the club had a weight lifting contest winning weight was 9+ lbs. The club would have various fun flies monthly throughout the season, it truly was a great group.

To Bob Hunt:

  You mentioned Ronnie Denk, I have a beautifully crafted 1/2a fw-190 hanging over my 4 year old sons bed built by him.

Keep it coming
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Tom
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Re: The way it was...
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2008, 03:53:04 AM »
It occurred to me after I posted this that they advertised "Over a thousand dollars in trophies"...

With one dollar, and fifty cent entry fees?

And look at the list of events...Ah yes, those WERE the days.  y1


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Friends, this should spell out the answer to the question, "where are all the young modelers at?" or "what has happened to control line flying?"

The answer is plain to me.
Sponsorship.

Back in the day, there were many sponsors from many walks of life. And I mean outside the hobby realm. Such as the Navy!  car Mfgs. Car dealerships. This of course was encouraged (required?) by the manufacturers. The Y.M.C.A.. Boys clubs, Scouting and more. There were some banks as well. And as you can see by the advertisment shown in the first post, there were lots of prizes for many entrants.
Depending on the event there were also awards of kits and engines. Certainly the LHS helped here and there for these. However, Many of these were not were NOT donated by the LHS. They were purchased by the other sponsors and were usually purchased from the LHS. Also entrant fees were low and in most cases there was no requirement of membership in AMA clubs.
Note also that there would be food provided. I wish i could have attended that event! I wonder if there are many pictures of this surviving.
Considering the local sponsorship, might there be pictures from the local newspaper archive of the event?

This brings into light certain obvious facts. Responsibility mostly. The major responsibility today being insurability of an event like this. This is because back then most people were willing to take care of things themselves. Nowadays if Anything happens we are always looking to see "who's gonna pay for this?" Whether it be a cut on a finger by a prop or a scratch on someones paint job or what about this? A kids model flies OOS? Who would be liable for that? The sponsors for holding the event I suppose...

Also note that there is the Glider event for the kids. What has that got to do with control line? Indirectly of course it helps to open the doors for future advancement in the hobby and of course exposure to a larger happening than just a little HLG contest.
This also encouraged more family participation and in wider age groups.

Please keep in mind this is not a rant, merely an observation of the times. I see the question from time to time and do not usually respond.

Ward, thanks for showing us this nice piece of memorabilia. I bet there are few of these saved from their time. It would be nice to see more of these flyers from the past.

Robert

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Junior, Senior, and Open, three trophies, all events !!!
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2008, 06:09:39 AM »
That's how the Michigan State Meet operated up until the mid 1960's when it was sponsered by the The Detroit News, Ford's, and The Michigan Exchange Clubs.

They scheduled every event in the AMA Rule Book (which wasn't all that many at the time), and covered 'em with a full set of trophies for each.

At the end of the day, there weren't all that many left over.  If there were less than three scores on the board the Jr's & Sr's would find a way to "get legal" and put up a flight.  Great fun and a busy day.  Biggest problem was not enough hours of daylight to finish combat and carrier.
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Re: The way it was...
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2008, 06:31:49 AM »
The contest I went to in the 50-60's all gave kits,silk, dope,balsa,motors all the way down to 6-8 place. At some contests I never placed in the top three in any event but had almost to much to carry to the car.I won high point many times because I entered so many events. I entered eight events at a meet on Long Island and won so much checkered board silk I still have some today. Today the local hobby shops have no interest if it is not RC.
Ed
Locust NC 40 miles from the Huntersville field

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Re: The way it was...
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2008, 08:36:54 AM »
Hi Ward!
Thanks for sharing that with us.
Dean
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Offline Ward Van Duzer

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Re: The way it was...
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2008, 08:41:57 AM »
Dean-O,

Ward-O still loves you!


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I hate spelling errors, you mess up 2 letters and you are urined!

Don't hesitate to ask dumb questions.
They are easier to handle than dumb mistakes!  Ward-O AMA 6022


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