The SIG/Berkley Lancer

[Mike Griffin]

Someone recently gave me a Lancer Kit and I noticed on the plan that the wing construction on the plan is a little different.  It is not exactly an I Beam and not exactly a Millennium  wing.  I was just curious as to what the thought was behind constructing a wing with riblets laid in this way?

Mike

[dale gleason]

The advertisements back in the day stated, "The Lancer is the answer." 

So, what was the question?

How do those Detroit guys build those wings?


just a guess.....

dg

[Trostle]

In what way is the Lancer wing "not exactly an I Beam"?  Other than the wing is completely assembled before attaching the fuselage parts to it, the wing is still built with strip ribs (as with any I-Beam constructed wing) over the top and bottom spars with webbing between the top and bottom spars.  It is a bit more complicated because the wing top half is built and then added to the bottom half.  There would be simpler ways to construct the thing than what is shown and described on the kit plans.

It is unfortunate that the copyright on the plans is 1958.  With a two wheel gear added (as allowed by the PAMPA OTS rules) and a good .20 or .25, this would make a nice flying airplane for OTS.

Keith

[Howard Rush]

I built a Lancer.  I made a handle out of electrical conduit for it.  The Lancer didn't last long.  There was a guy in KC named Bob Anderson, the greatest salesman I ever met.  He could talk anybody into or out of anything.  I was flying my Lancer one day when I noticed Bob Anderson in my peripheral vision.  "Oh,no," I said to myself.  "Bob will talk me into letting him fly my Lancer, and he'll crash it."  Bob talked me into letting him fly my Lancer, and he crashed it.  He offered to give me some glue to fix it.  (He never did.)

[Dennis Leonhardi]

I built a Lancer.  I made a handle out of electrical conduit for it.  The Lancer didn't last long.  There was a guy in KC named Bob Anderson, the greatest salesman I ever met.  He could talk anybody into or out of anything.  I was flying my Lancer one day when I noticed Bob Anderson in my peripheral vision.  "Oh,no," I said to myself.  "Bob will talk me into letting him fly my Lancer, and he'll crash it."  Bob talked me into letting him fly my Lancer, and he crashed it.  He offered to give me some glue to fix it.  (He never did.)

Who would have thought Howard is that "easy"?  Well, at least he warned himself ...

 

[Mike Griffin]

In what way is the Lancer wing "not exactly an I Beam"?  Other than the wing is completely assembled before attaching the fuselage parts to it, the wing is still built with strip ribs (as with any I-Beam constructed wing) over the top and bottom spars with webbing between the top and bottom spars.  It is a bit more complicated because the wing top half is built and then added to the bottom half.  There would be simpler ways to construct the thing than what is shown and described on the kit plans.

It is unfortunate that the copyright on the plans is 1958.  With a two wheel gear added (as allowed by the PAMPA OTS rules) and a good .20 or .25, this would make a nice flying airplane for OTS.

Keith

I agree Keith about a simpler way to build the wing than as the plan shows.  I appreciate the feedback.  Sometime after Christmas I will get it out and take a serious look at how to build it. 

Mike

[bob whitney]

the spar was made in pieces so it would fit in the box . a simpler spar could be built using full length piece's
the  origanal won Jr or Sr combat at the Nat's

[Reptoid]

The "Lancer" was designed by Art Pawloski, and used to win senior combat at the 1957 Nats. He also designed the "Atom" (similar to Ares) and won Sr. Stunt the same year.
 Why does it use "I-Beam" construction? Because they were "Detroiters" and that's how they roll. Art's brother Greg is a member of our local club; "Knights of the Round Circle" and every now and then brings out an Atom and/or a Lancer to fly

[Randy Powell]

Howard is not easy. He's cheap. There's a difference.

[wwwarbird]

 I've got a (new production) SIG Lancer kit on the shelf, still in the shrink wrap. I really like outlines and simple clean "period" look of it. Hope to make it one of the next projects, probably with an FP.25.

 New or old, does anyone have some inspirational pics they can show us?

[C.T. Schaefer]

Vigani recently scratch built one. Pacifier and a .36x. Flys great and looks awesome.  There may be a video clip from Luciano on the Vintage Combat Festival thread on this forum.