Author Topic: TEOSAWKI a few questions to those who have flown one (Read 4311 times)

pipemakermike · « **on:** November 24, 2011, 07:20:18 AM »

I have started sorting out the shapes to build one and have a question:-

The nose looks quite long and slender, have there been any problems with vibration?

I will probably have more when I get further with the drawing/model

Robertc · « **Reply #1 on:** November 24, 2011, 08:06:32 AM »

Never had a problem in three different ones I got to borrow. All were LA 46 power.

Larry Cunningham · « **Reply #2 on:** November 24, 2011, 10:00:29 AM »

Mike, I've wondered what TEOSAWKI looked like, and am looking forward to more illustrations. ;->

We all knew that stunt was coming to an end, I suppose..

L.

"The difference between a violin and a viola is that a viola burns longer." -Victor Borge

peabody · « **Reply #3 on:** November 24, 2011, 10:08:59 AM »

The TEOSAWKI is, essentially, a combat plane with landing gear...the SLOW foamies that Phil Cartier offers are almost replicas as far as "numbers" and airfoils are concerned...and they are available!

pipemakermike · « **Reply #4 on:** November 24, 2011, 11:20:06 AM »

Hi

I am probably putting a 3" bellcrank as per the drawings and could use a steer as to the amount of movement for the elevator
Also CG position,

I am having to make it up as I go along but at least the errors I am making now are all virtual<G>

PerttiMe · « **Reply #5 on:** November 24, 2011, 11:29:36 AM »

Quote from: Ty Marcucci on November 24, 2011, 10:45:45 AM

Ugly, but utilitarian. Does the job with precision.

Looks like some have been modded to look not-all-that-bad. Don't know if that makes it too heavy.

I don't remember whose photos these are:

Howard Rush · « **Reply #6 on:** November 24, 2011, 12:43:29 PM »

I made a "fuselage" for an F2D plane out of 1/2" plywood and 3/8" OD aluminum tubing. It made a fairly decent stunt plane. I haven't followed up on my plan to make a trainer out of an F2D plane. They will carry an amazing amount of weight.

Mike Scholtes · « **Reply #7 on:** November 24, 2011, 05:48:51 PM »

As one of the only two people in the world who have flown both the TEOSAWKI and the new SAKITUME, I strongly suggest you take a look at the SAKITUME. I built the prototype SAKITUME wing and can vouch for its amazing stiffness with little structure. It is bigger than the TEO and uses a balsa leading edge with conventional sheeting (though the proto has a molded shell LE). Much more side area and better in overheads compared to the TEO. It is also being made available as an electric, and 25-size version is in the works. Being in England you may be more interested in a rib set and plans rather a full kit what with shipping costs, or just the plans. Probably available as a pdf.

Both models fly very well and I am not demeaning the TEO at all, just suggesting there is what I would call an improved version available.

dave siegler · « **Reply #8 on:** November 24, 2011, 09:02:33 PM »

Look here

http://home.wxs.nl/~wakke007/

It describes how to build an F2d airplane like this.

Bill Little · « **Reply #9 on:** November 25, 2011, 01:22:18 PM »

I agree with the others. The TEOSAWKI flies much like a slowed down very big combat plane. It goes where you point it, easy to trim, etc..

I'd say around 20* elevator travel each way is plenty.

Big Bear

pipemakermike · « **Reply #10 on:** November 25, 2011, 02:28:22 PM »

Quote from: Bill Little on November 25, 2011, 01:22:18 PM

I'd say around 20* elevator travel each way is plenty.
Big Bear

Thanks Bill

Geoff Goodworth · « **Reply #11 on:** November 25, 2011, 04:29:20 PM »

Mike Nelson, one of the UK RC magazines had an enlarged Skystreak as its free plan several years ago. If I remember correctly, it was 40" span and called Skystreak 40.

dave siegler · « **Reply #12 on:** November 27, 2011, 03:42:47 PM »

Here is another Teosaki like airplane

http://www.keithrenecle.co.za/Control%20line%20stuff.htm
http://www.keithrenecle.co.za/files/Eze%2025.pdf

Some nice drawings on how to layout the LE block.

Not in love with the airfoil though.

Allen Brickhaus · « **Reply #13 on:** November 28, 2011, 06:10:40 AM »

Quote from: Ty Marcucci on November 24, 2011, 12:25:40 PM

Top photos is part of the "Carolina Gang". Tommy Luper, in the lower right hand of the photo, has the only truly modifed TEOSAWKI. The others are "stock".
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The lower shot is of Charlie Reeves' TEOSAWKI in tan and green plus his Fierce Arrow. Tommy Luper's TEOSAWKI is in the foreground. This was probably taken at Tommy's house in Winston-Salem NC.

Allen Brickhaus

Allen Brickhaus · « **Reply #14 on:** November 28, 2011, 06:14:48 AM »

My recovered TEOSAWKI has been in my possession for about 7 years. I purchased this at the KOI the last time I was there. Clayton Smith (designer and builder) told me mine was worn out when he sold it to the interim flyer who owned it before me. So the model should be about 10 years old and survived a full bore straight in at the Polk City Iowa contest three May's ago and it is still flying.

Allen Brickhaus

Allen Brickhaus · « **Reply #15 on:** November 28, 2011, 06:36:44 AM »

The top shot is of my ten year old TEOSAWKI, the second is my recovered first one, and the third shot is of my not so often flown TEOSAWKI purchased from Clayton Smith at the last Huntersville contest he attended.

Allen Brickhaus

rustler · « **Reply #16 on:** November 28, 2011, 03:27:03 PM »

Quote from: Geoff Goodworth on November 25, 2011, 04:29:20 PM

Mike Nelson, one of the UK RC magazines had an enlarged Skystreak as its free plan several years ago. If I remember correctly, it was 40" span and called Skystreak 40.

KK kitted two Skystreaks, 26 and 40. I was looking at a free plan recently which was a twice size 26, i.e. Skystreak 52. Looks like a great plane for my Yulon 49, which I'd like to fly, but what's it legal for? Possibly only F2B !!!

john e. holliday · « **Reply #17 on:** November 30, 2011, 08:29:43 AM »

Wake up, you can still fly the PAMPA Skill Classes and there are some contests that have no BOM/appearance points.

Bill Little · « **Reply #18 on:** November 30, 2011, 10:05:20 AM »

Quote from: john e. holliday on November 30, 2011, 08:29:43 AM

Wake up, you can still fly the PAMPA Skill Classes and there are some contests that have no BOM/appearance points.

Hi Doc,

I know that YOU know that Ian is in England. Don't know what classes they fly over there.............

Bill

john e. holliday · « **Reply #19 on:** November 30, 2011, 04:02:34 PM »

Sorry, I didn't look at his location. But, on the Barton site they should be able to help him.

Bill Little · « **Reply #20 on:** November 30, 2011, 04:09:43 PM »

Quote from: john e. holliday on November 30, 2011, 04:02:34 PM

Sorry, I didn't look at his location. But, on the Barton site they should be able to help him.

Hi Doc,

Just yanking your chain, kinda.

I wish that the location of the member would be shown under the user's name. It would make it easier to answer some questions, etc.. Or maybe in the signature, etc..

Bill

Geoff Goodworth · « **Reply #21 on:** November 30, 2011, 07:47:36 PM »

Ian, I was just looking for something else and found the Skystreak 52, a free plan in Aviation Modeller International October 2000. It is a CL version so the plan may save you some work.