Nobler vs Gieske Nobler vs Brodak Nobler

[Phillip Kenney]

If you had an original Green Box Nobler, a Top Flite Gieske Nobler and a Brodak Nobler kit on the shelf which would be the most fun to build and the most fun to fly?

[Bill Little]

If you had an original Green Box Nobler, a Top Flite Gieske Nobler and a Brodak Nobler kit on the shelf which would be the most fun to build and the most fun to fly?

Personally, I would go with the '57 Green Box Nobler.  It has less wing offset, and is a little bit more advanced (for whatever reason! LOL!!) than the '52.  Plus, it is the one that so many of the models we saw in the late '50s and through the '60s were built off of! LOL!!

The Gieseke is a great flying model, though.  The '52 ain't bad either, just takes some extra trimming to get the extra wing asymmetry trimmed out of.

Big Bear

[john e. holliday]

I've had all three and would have to toss a coin.   All three are great flyers when trimmed right.   

[Allen Brickhaus]

What I would like about the '52 Nobler from Brodak's is that you can fly it in OTS, Classic, Nostalgia 30, your particular PAMPA class and it painted with military or Caudron colors, you can "fly" it in Sport Scale (Tee Hee).

Allen Brickhaus

[Ward Van Duzer]

Right on!

[john e. holliday]

Are you saying the Brodak Nobler is not legal for OTS?

[Bill Little]

Are you saying the Brodak Nobler is not legal for OTS?

Where did you come up with that, Doc? 

Big Bear

[Brett Buck]

If you had an original Green Box Nobler, a Top Flite Gieske Nobler and a Brodak Nobler kit on the shelf which would be the most fun to build and the most fun to fly?

   The Gieske is clearly the best flier.

     Brett

[PJ Rowland]

Ive built, 51 and 52 Noblers with various engines to multiple Wins in Classic at Nats level. Also had a Greenbox, Ive flown the arf Noblers, the Brodaks, and I've got plans for the Topflight Gieseke Nobler. ( Built one 20 years ago.. )

My current plane of choice for the US Nats in classic ?
UHP Drawn Gieseke Nobler, without a doubt superior to the above in every capacity performance wise.

[Bill Little]

I agree with Brett and PJ that the Gieseke Nobler is probably the best, performance wise, but the "nostalgia", and significance, of the Green Box makes it my personal favorite. 

Probably my real favorite of the "Noblers" is Mr. Louis Grondal's AMA Special.  Built from a Green Box kit and winner of the first two official FAI World Championships!  Interestingly he actually used a stock Nobler to fly the two "FAI" rounds and the "Special" to fly the "AMA" round, hence his name for it.  (yes, both patterns were flown at the 1960 WCs)

Big Bear

[M Spencer]

A GRONDAL Nobler  tee hee , otherwise , the LIGHTEST one , provideing the engine does its stuff right .

[PJ Rowland]

Lightest doesnt equate to best.

They fly amazing when they carry more weight, provided you have the thrust. Brett has been pushing this idea for longer than I care to remember.

[YakNine]

Did Mr.Aldrich ever say what plane the Nobler was inspired by,was it a fighter or something else or did he just start cutting balsa one day and happen to get it right? T.J.

[Chris McMillin]

French airplane. Caudron racer, from the 30's.
Chris...

[Russ Danneman]

ok , so far as  closest to the original NOBLER ,the brodak version??  rd

[Mike Scholtes]

Hop over to the OTS page and see the recent topics on color scheme on 51-52 Nobler and comparing the 51-52 with the 57 Nobler. That should answer all your questions.

[M Spencer]

Theres some footage of the Caudron 460s on U Tube .
Young Aldriches Magnum was Flown by one of youre blokes in an Early World Champs , finished as authentic colour scheme as one .

[Russ Danneman]

ok , so far as  closest to the original NOBLER ,the brodak version??  rd

my bad let me refraise . so as closest to original airframe itself  it's the brodak version?? rd

[Bill Little]

my bad let me refraise . so as closest to original airframe itself  it's the brodak version?? rd

Hi Russ,

The Brodak kit is the closest available to the "original" Nobler.

Bill