solid vs stranded leadouts?

[jim gilmore]

I have to change the leadouts on the shark beacuse The material supplied was too short. If I go to solid music wire what diameter should I use ?

[Ralph Wenzel (d)]

An RSM Shark 45?? Call Eric and he'll fix you up pronto! I have used solids (1/32") in a few planes, but don't really like them because they always get bent at the leadout guide and they're noisy as two skeletons - - whups! Wrong forum . . .

[jim gilmore]

Sorry if I wasn't clear it's the shark 402 seems for a 42" the supplied materiam was  were approximately 49" of cable.
Which i'm guess in would leave No cable outside the wingtip ?
When I go to town I'd buy some but my LHS smithbros sent all their c/l stuff to their reseda store.
Is there a fishing cable alternative ?  Anybody want to chime in here would be nice... just has me stuck on wing work till I get a replacment material.

[Geoff Goodworth]

Jim

Contact Brodaks and they will provide you with the necessary material. Also, they need to know that an error was made. Somebody may have made a mistake in cutting a batch of lead out wire.

Regards, Geoff

[jim gilmore]

Actually it is a shark 402. Is there a fishing product that will work ?

[Jerry Olson]

You might want to check out some down rigger cable from a fishing and tackle store.  If they don't have it on a spool  that they can cut it from to your length requirements and you buy it prepackaged you will have enough lead out material for a lot of airplanes.  Another option would be to check out a bicycle store for brake cable.

[John Harold]

There was a similar thread on another Forum, I responded and posted this same  picture. I almost always use flexible leadouts after several failures with solids. The fishing tackle shown below has handled tuna, marlin, wahoo, powerful game fish, bust up's have never happened!
Use the correct line crimps as shown and the right crimping tool ( from the tackle shop ), it crimps along the line, not across it, which, may damage the plastic coated stainless wire. Loop the line through the crimp and push the tail back through the sleeve, snug it and crimp. Snip off the excess line with the shears on the crimper.
Enough material there for MANY lead out sets.
Never had any issues with large stunt models and big engines using this equipment.
Just the way I do it, others will their favourite methods, no doubt.

[John Harold]

There was a similar thread on another Forum, I responded and posted this same  picture. I almost always use flexible leadouts after several failures with solids. The fishing tackle shown below has handled tuna, marlin, wahoo, powerful game fish, bust up's have never happened!
Use the correct monyl line crimps as shown and the right crimping tool shown which crimps along the line, not across it, which, will damage the plastic coated stainless wire. Loop through the crimp, then push the tail back through once and snug it before crimping.
Never had any issues with large stunt models and big engines using this setup.
Just my 2 cents worth.

[Bill Heher]

I've had good results with "Malin  Trilon-7" brand cable. It is 1X7  .038" coated stainless steel fishing leader, and is flexible enough to use the standard line end wrapping method shown in the AMA rule book. The package I have shows it is rated to 90 lbs, and has 30 feet on the spool, enought for at least 1/2 dozen planes. I got mine at Bass Pro Shop, but I have seen it in the fishing section at Wal-Mart also.

[Rob Roberts]

I used shark leader called "49 strand American fishing wire 7x7 stainless steel shark leader cable" it is rated at 175# and is more supple than the short piece from brodak. What could be beter for a shark than  shark leader?