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Offline bob whitney

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Skylark kit
« on: January 01, 2016, 11:42:56 AM »
  I know where there is a Sterling Sky Lark in the box. what would be a good price for it??
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Re: Skylark kit
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2016, 11:59:51 AM »
Hi Bob,

In the past I have seen them go for up to (and maybe more than) $150 for a kit with excellent box, etc..  This has been on ebay.  But, I could have bought one locally for $50, so issuing a price is difficult for me! LL~

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Re: Skylark kit
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2016, 03:52:00 PM »
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Re: Skylark kit
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2016, 04:48:19 PM »
Paul, it is at one of the last little old hobby shops in FLA .he told me to make an offer , i would be willing to be the go between foe anyone that wants it, i could make a low ball offer and see what he says
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Re: Skylark kit
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2016, 08:26:51 AM »
  Kit collectors,especially for Sterling kits, want as nice a box as possible. Sterling kit boxes were made out of the most flimsy and cheap paste board available at the time! If the box is real nice, it would be good eBay fodder. If the box is crappy or torn, I would be interested in it for 50 bucks just to build it.
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Re: Skylark kit
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2016, 09:09:55 AM »
I just picked up these two. One is being built, the boxes are "fair" but if anybody has a kit and needs a structurally sound box with a complete label give me a shout.

I don't want to publish the price to protect my source (who has a warehouse full of old Sterling kits!) but I will be happy to say his prices are more than reasonable. If anybody is looking for anything in particular let me know. I told him to grab me a couple of S1A Ringmasters and Skylarks and here they are...

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Re: Skylark kit
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2016, 09:52:26 AM »
There are deals to be had for the "builder" as opposed to the collector.  Old story circa 1990-ish: I scored a Skylark kit for $10.00 from a Hobby Shop in Port Huron, Michigan that was on the way out of business, during an inventory reduction/clearance sale.  It was part of a collection/consignment lot of items that the shop owner had purchased from a former shop patron.  The box was rough but complete.  The plans were o.k. but yellowed. Not sure on the parts inventory but it seems that most of the stuff is there, even the 2 inch diameter hard rubber wheels (which I've only every seen in some of the smaller 1/2a kits). I don't know if the wheels give any indication as to what vintage the kit is.  Have not built it as yet.  

The same but different: Scored a TF Gieske Nobler for ten bucks along with a Fox 35 for $15.00 in Oscoda, MI.  The kit was missing the plans for the wing construction.  A quick note to Top Flight and I had the plans in hand within a few weeks.  Interesting that they actually wanted to copy my fuselage plans for there archives.  The replacement wing plan did not cost me anything.


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Re: Skylark kit
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2016, 11:42:26 AM »
For building a Skylark the RSM kit is much better than the Sterling kit, better wood, better fit and can build the larger 46 version.

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Re: Skylark kit
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2016, 12:14:31 PM »
For building a Skylark the RSM kit is much better than the Sterling kit, better wood, better fit and can build the larger 46 version.


Yes, but I used the kit to build my Skylark used at 2 VSC's that won once. It was TOTALLY period correct, but I guess that matters not.......The next one won't be period correct. I might have to call Eric for that one...

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Re: Skylark kit
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2016, 03:04:18 PM »
I was under the impression Eric got together with Ed and the RSM kit is closer to what Ed flew than the Sterling kit. Something about Sterling making it fit the box?

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Re: Skylark kit
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2016, 03:31:59 PM »
I was under the impression Eric got together with Ed and the RSM kit is closer to what Ed flew than the Sterling kit. Something about Sterling making it fit the box?

That's what The Chief (Ty) tells me. The box Sterling used was the largest they could ship at a certain postal rate, I think.

There's one built hanging in a hobby shop in Pensacola but the owner wants way too much for it, and it's in bad shape. He keeps it because he knew the owner and there's a little C/L activity in the area. He was surprised I recognized it!
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Re: Skylark kit
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2016, 04:45:04 PM »
The classic planes I like are those I saw as a kid in Kansas City.  I don't want the airplanes as the designers originally built them, and certainly not as modern approximators make them.  I like the Sterling Skylark, the Nobler made from a green box, and either version of the Veco Thunderbird. 
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Re: Skylark kit
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2016, 04:45:44 PM »
I would gladly trade my Sterling Skylark kit for the Ken Smith kit, if anyone has one left.
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Re: Skylark kit
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2016, 05:40:34 PM »
The classic planes I like are those I saw as a kid in Kansas City.  I don't want the airplanes as the designers originally built them, and certainly not as modern approximators make them.  I like the Sterling Skylark, the Nobler made from a green box, and either version of the Veco Thunderbird. 

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Re: Skylark kit
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2016, 08:29:39 PM »
Check with Eric...I'm pretty sure that the Kenn Smith kit (he also made a great "Lark" kit but you all know that) is the same kit that is currently produced by RSM. I have it, 3 versions, great wood, but the picture on the box is not as cool as the Sterling kit. I'd like one just for that picture, for building though, gotta go with the RSM (Smith?) version. 8)
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Re: Skylark kit
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2016, 08:32:22 AM »
I think I had the first Sterling Sky lark kit in the KC area.  Ray Rheinsmidt(spelling) had a twin engine one.   Mine flew in on contest at Swope Park.   Pulled up for the reverse wingover and watched it come across the circle.  Leveled off and flew the tank dry.   Gave it to a fellow club member.   Years later I built a second kit Skylark and built the wing in one piece this time.   Flew great.   I do have Ken Smith's kits, but I don't think any one can afford them.   The Skylark of Ken's is larger than the Sterling kit.   The Lark is bigger size plane and I often wonder how Ed could hang onto it while flying.   Sure missed that couple at VSC after their fatal car wreck.
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Re: Skylark kit
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2016, 08:51:17 AM »
John I remember Rays twin Shark 45 with two Fox .35s. Wish we had documentation to prove those classic legal.  He put radial cowls on it but think it was too heavy to be a super flier.  Wonder if Tommy Cooper still has that incredible mint green Ares of Ray.....

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While waxing nostalgic here I remember something he put a trike gear, throttle and wheel brakes on- maybe a Skylark too....or Dolphin?  I had to be nine or ten years old then.
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Re: Skylark kit
« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2016, 02:19:49 PM »
First time I'd seen a Skylark:

circa 1976-77.  My family had just returned from another over sea's tour of duty (England-RAF Wethersfield) and had landed at Pease AFB, Portsmouth NH, for my fathers final base tour before his retirement out of the airforce.  My older brother (by two years) and I were very much into c/l models having earned our wings on all manner of .049 stuff, Jr. Ringmasters and finally Ringmaster Seniors.  On what would be the last flight in England of my brother K&B Stallion .35 powered Ringmaster I had inadvertently stepped on the outboard wing while trying to save it from hitting a parking lot curb during the landing roll out.  Once in NH we rebuilt the wing and began flying again at the local elementary school playground about five mins walk from the house. In hindsight I can now see that the broken wing of the Ringmaster actually enabled it to be packed and it survived the transit from England to the States.  

As per normal, the sound of a model airplane engine running brought all manner of spectator to the playground to watch.  Within min's of the engine start two other adults showed up to watch and mentioned that they also were dabbling in c/l .049 models and were working on a .15 powered plane. Rich and Rob are the names I sort of remember. Rich was a avionics tech of some sort. They both were married and had young kids.  I was to be a senior in high school. My brother would be working his first full time job.   On the second outing another Sgt showed up in his work fatigues and mentioned that he had a couple planes and would we mind if he came out and flew with us as he did not know of anybody else that was into this stuff.  No problem says me and brother.  This fellow we only ever knew as "Chuck" or Sgt Chuck.  Planes that he flew at the time were a Dumas A-7 Corsair II. The jet styled carrier comp model.  Chuck did not build it to carrier spec and simply flew it as a sport stunt model. He also had a Goldberg P-40 and was working on a Skylark.  All his models were quick builds with minimal finishing technique and covered 100% in MonoKote, normally only a single color was used. The surfaces were sanded (I think?) but only in so far as to enable the covering to go down somewhat smoothly.  Fuselage edges were rare to never rounded off as this would make covering somewhat harder I guessed. We were later joined by another father son team who's names I forget. The dad built and his son (maybe 10 or 12years old at the time) did the flying. His dad liked to cover his models in silk. He built a nice Cosmic Wind in black as I recall. There was also a Capt. that flew his models a few times with us. Capt had a beautiful Dumas P-51 full fuselage stunter that was amazing to watch. It flew so slow that we wondered how the heck it stay'd in the air. My brother and I had no idea what a 4-2-4 run was at the time as we only every ran his K&B and my Fox-35 (Shoestring power) at near full tilt.   Anyway..we had a small group that seemed to meet after dinner on any night that the weather was good enough to fly.

Chuck finally finished the Skylark and brought it out to the school yard. I remember being amazed at how large it was with only a Fox -35 in the nose. It was finished in all black in keeping with Chucks semi-quick build and finish techneques.  It filed the back of his Pymouth Volare stationwagon. (Chuck was married and had a couple young ones too).  Normal was for the adult members to simply drive right out onto/into the school yard and pull up and park 10 or 20 feet from the pit area.  So on this particular afternoon that is exactly the way things were, cars all lined up in a row.  Chuck fired the engine on the Skylark and I let it go at the drop of his hand.  The model seemed to labor as it slowly rolled along the rough grass before finally getting airborne.  Chuck, I'd have to say, was the best pilot (other than the Capt) that I'd ever seen, because he could do inside and outside loops and fly inverted (something I could not do yet).  So with the new bird airborne and making very slow laps Chuck went into his normal stunt routine, seemingly undaunted by the rather lack luster airspeed of the Skylark.  I forget if it was at the top of a wing-over or the top of a inside loop or the recovery from inverted where it happened but...at some point the lines went totally slack and the Skylark was making tracks across the circle with the lines basically dragging on the ground.  Chuck did his best to simply run in the opposite direction in a lame attempt to get the slack out of the lines. The Skylark may have been about 25 feet off the ground as it cut the circle in two,..they , the plane and Chuck, passed each other near the mid point of the circle.   He held the handle behind his right shoulder (as you might when running to get a kite airborne) and ran full tilt for the other side of the circle never once looking at the plane.  So at one point they are both getting closer to each other , pilot and plane, and the next moment they are moving away from each other in opposite directions.  I remember the beginning of a cringe as I was thinking on what was about to happen. Visions of the control system being torn out of the plane as the lines suddenly went tight.  Well nope, the controls never got ripped out of the plane, nope, far from it.  The handle got ripped out of Chucks hand instead!  Because he had full "up" dialed in as he ran, when the lines went tight, the Skylark actually pulled out of it's diving arch and aimed skyward. It was at this critical juncture that the handle was snatched from Chucks grip (no lanyard in use, "what the hecks that?").  When he lost the handle Chuck turned and stared as the Skylark began a beautiful climb out back to altitude tracking the normal flight circle again, the handle bouncing along the ground and then airborn at five or six feet high, then another bounce off the ground and another six feet into the air would go the handle.  In the pits we all watched and then ran as the Skylark tracked towards the pits and our other planes on the ground and the cars parked behind us.  What to save?..the cars or the planes?  Well the Skylark gracefully arch over the pits and the cars at about 20 feet high with the handle and lines bouncing now and again off the ground.  It did approximately a complete lap of the circle and then just about landed with only a slight bump which killed the motor and broke a prop.  Nice airplanes them Skylarks.!  I never saw the plane again after that.  Not sure what happened to these guys we flew with.    
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Re: Skylark kit
« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2016, 04:36:16 PM »
John I remember Rays twin Shark 45 with two Fox .35s. Wish we had documentation to prove those classic legal.  He put radial cowls on it but think it was too heavy to be a super flier.  Wonder if Tommy Cooper still has that incredible mint green Ares of Ray.....

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While waxing nostalgic here I remember something he put a trike gear, throttle and wheel brakes on- maybe a Skylark too....or Dolphin?  I had to be nine or ten years old then.

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Re: Skylark kit
« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2016, 04:54:25 PM »
Boy if that's true then I can see that twin Skylark in the future!  That kit box photo above is special to me.  When I was just a sprout my uncle Bill Noyes sent me THAT exact photo on Kodachrome or some such and said those were the two planes he was flying at the time.  Picture was taken in his California back yard.  Lost the picture many years ago- not realizing the significance.

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Re: Skylark kit
« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2016, 08:02:48 PM »
I love that picture, too. I arrived in California in 1966 after seeing the Chicago Nats and those models, styles and colors were kind of the essence of the whole Stunt thing for me. It's what made me such a fan of Classic Stunt.
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Re: Skylark kit
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2016, 06:34:26 AM »
The Skylark in any form is a very good flying stunt ship as long as it isn't overweight and/or underpowered. If you compare the airfoil I believe you will notice it is much closer to what modern stunt ships are using than a Nobler My first full blown stunt ship back in the 70's was a Sterling Skylark and my present Classic is a Skylark built from an RSM kit. What I have seen over the years is the few that were unhappy with the Skylark didn't have enough engine. I built the 46 size from the RSM kit and powered it with a ST-51, good enough for a third in Advanced Classic at Brodak's in 2010 and a first in 2011.

One can build a nice airplane starting with the Sterling kit but 3/4 of the wood will probably need to be replaced. Especially that baseball bat Sterling supplied for the top block. Most difficult part for me is carving/shaping that bump in the top block that flows into the rudder. Wouldn't think of using anything less than an LA-46, ST46 or Aerotiger.


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