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See me fly! New video of my Brodak Legacy 40.
« on: July 22, 2015, 03:59:39 AM »
Hi all.

Here is a new video I took today of me flying my Brodak Legacy 40. Its the first video I've taken of myself flying the F2B pattern. My flying is a little rough I know. However we all have to start somewhere. I am one of only a handful of control line pilots down the bottom end of New Zealand so I find it a little lonesome sometimes and really have nobody else to measure my progress against. But hey I enjoy it and am feeling more confident now than 12 months ago.

The model as mentioned above is a Legacy 40 from Brodak, Its powered by a Stalker .51re and weighs 51oz. It flies much better than my last model which was a Banshee. After watching the video I've noticed the outboard wing is ever so slightly up so a trim tab will be in order next.

Any thoughts or criticism please share I'd love to know. First one will be I am pulling out too high I know, that will come I am just being conservative at the moment.

Anyhow, hope you enjoy.



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Re: See me fly! New video of my Brodak Legacy 40.
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2015, 05:38:09 AM »
Daniel,

Took a look at your video. Better when the camera is fixed and not moving.

Your model looks really well detailed. Nice weight. I like that "see through" area on the wing. Where did you get your lettering?  mw~   LL~ LL~ LL~

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Re: See me fly! New video of my Brodak Legacy 40.
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2015, 06:10:31 AM »
 "Take off and level laps" are one maneuver of 3 laps duration, then 2 more laps before the reverse wing over, 5 laps total. Some contests require 6 laps total before the wingover.The overhead 8's look like lazy eights and the clover needs a longer straight flight between the loops. If you have another "beater" use that for practice and save the Legacy for contests. A coach wouldn't hurt either.
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Re: See me fly! New video of my Brodak Legacy 40.
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2015, 08:23:06 PM »
Good flight. Cautious is important outside of a contest. Very good triangles.
You are progressing well and the video is a good way to see how you are doing. There are lots of videos to see how others do it, but it would help if you could arrange to have someone coach you. In Canada we have some regional coaching clinics and if you could find one in NZ it would be worthwhile to attend. I need to travel almost 700 miles to attend one here.
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Re: See me fly! New video of my Brodak Legacy 40.
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2015, 09:36:58 PM »
Greased that landing......
Love your field. Nice slow lap times and good run from what I see and hear. I am fairly new in the game as well so my advice is fly, fly fly. Shoot for even bottoms and tops. Not easy. That Legacy flies great.
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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2015, 09:50:05 PM »
Airplane turns nicely.  Looks like lap times around 5.4 or so. 
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Re: See me fly! New video of my Brodak Legacy 40.
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2015, 09:58:43 PM »
Dunno if it's angel of camera. Hourglass and vertical eights not wide enough on bottom. Right side cut short. Probably a smaller top side for hourglass would help. Smooth straight angel line for landing when engine shuts off. Model dived a bit when engine cut, then made a smoother continuous line. A few small bobs on way down. Fly the squares bigger to emphasize sides. (I was given this advise recently.) It will present better. Yep. I agree. Fly further before doing the 4th loop of clover. It takes a bit of time flying that straight line. Milliseconds that feel longer. Hard to tell how round the overhead eights were. Or if intersection was directly overhead. Hard to gauge for judges and flyer. Stalker runs very well. Matches nicely to the plane. A growler with a usable break.

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Re: See me fly! New video of my Brodak Legacy 40.
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2015, 03:53:18 AM »
Thanks for all the replies guys.

To answer one of the questions asked. Lines are 63ft from centre to handle, I am considering shortening by a few feet as I struggle for line tension in the wind a bit. Also, the camera angle, it was correct but the breeze shifted right as I started the engine.

There are a few control line pilots around down here, but only one other who flies competitively and he is a 2 hour drive away (have you seen the price of petrol in NZ!!! $2.10 litre) most competition is on the North Island a very long drive split by a ferry ride across from the South Island. 2016 will see me venture up for the NZ Nationals.

I have a nice low time G21 ST46 here which I will build something around soon to use as a practice plane. Thinking a Cardinal or similar.

Spring is approaching fast and I will be able to practice 4-5 times a week if the weather plays the game. I work shifts and get loads of spare time to sneak away for a fly.

Shug, the "field" is the local cricket ground in my town, disused this time of year. Over summer I shift to the rugby ground. We have lots of wonderful wide open spaces here and it all a 2 minute drive from home. Even our RC field is just on the edge of town. No complaints about the noise either.

On another note I am the thumbnail on another YouTube video and feature for approximately 1 second!!! Here is the link.....

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Re: See me fly! New video of my Brodak Legacy 40.
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2015, 09:06:36 AM »
Your camera location was almost perfect.  Put it exactly upwind and use it as a reference to fly the maneuvers and the video will give you a better read on shapes and intersections.  Your have a decent setup there with the Leg40/Stalker51, but you will need to fly it faster to handle windy conditions, so its best to get it  around 5.2 laps for practice.  In general I would tell you for now to open up the maneuvers until you get better shapes and intersections and later work on flying regulation size maneuvers.  I have a Stalker51 in a 48oz Olympic,  flying at 5.1~5.2 laps on 63' e2e lines.
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Re: See me fly! New video of my Brodak Legacy 40.
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2015, 06:04:46 PM »
I was pleasantly surprised and impressed! Good job on the video. Without a TRIPOD (Matt C.!), it's pretty useless, tho I understand the problems of videoing at a large contest. Wrap some soft foam over the microphone, to cut or eliminate the wind noise...that drives me nuts, with my tinitus.

I've met a few Kiwi, and even beat Paul Lagan in F1A once...but it was long ago, almost in another Galaxy. Last I heard, Paul is flying F2B, so you may have heard of him? Not sure where he lives since he returned to NZ from OZ.  H^^ Steve

PS: I've got one of those Stalker .51's, so any details on prop, fuel, fuel load needed would be of interest. Looks like your setup works pretty well!
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Re: See me fly! New video of my Brodak Legacy 40.
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2015, 11:06:46 PM »
I was pleasantly surprised and impressed! Good job on the video. Without a TRIPOD (Matt C.!), it's pretty useless, tho I understand the problems of videoing at a large contest. Wrap some soft foam over the microphone, to cut or eliminate the wind noise...that drives me nuts, with my tinitus.

I've met a few Kiwi, and even beat Paul Lagan in F1A once...but it was long ago, almost in another Galaxy. Last I heard, Paul is flying F2B, so you may have heard of him? Not sure where he lives since he returned to NZ from OZ.  H^^ Steve

PS: I've got one of those Stalker .51's, so any details on prop, fuel, fuel load needed would be of interest. Looks like your setup works pretty well!

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I know of Paul, although I've never met him. He is one of the legends of the game here in New Zealand and I understand he is not doing much flying anymore.

There was once a "South Island" Stunt series but it is no longer however there is now a "North Island" Stunt series. I live in the wrong island. I'd love to get something going down my way again. Maybe in the future I can foster enough interest.

My Stalker 51 I got 2nd hand from one of NZ's top stunt pilots. It served him well and was used at 2 world championships. I had a lean run early on with the Legacy due to a lump of crud blocking my filter, it caused some horrendous detonation and melted a hole in the top of the piston. So I got all new internals from Ukraine and replaced the bearings. Carefully broke it and now I have a wonderful engine which keeps on getting better the more time I put on it. It's spinning a 12x5 Y&O wooden prop from Brodak. Fuel is home brew 20% klotz synthetic/castor blend, 5% nitro 75% methanol. I did try 10% nitro and liked the extra power but I lost fuel economy and couldn't complete the pattern. I don't have room for a bigger tank so back to 5%. I may play with different props to get a touch more speed from the plane. But im quite happy with how it is going.

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Re: See me fly! New video of my Brodak Legacy 40.
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2015, 11:28:53 PM »
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Re: See me fly! New video of my Brodak Legacy 40.
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2015, 12:16:40 AM »
Hi Daniel,
Looks like you are heading in the right direction. The Legacy looks great and there is not a lot wrong with your flying either. My young friend Loren Nell moved from Ashburton on the South Island and is now happily living near Hamilton on the North Island. He says that the flying weather is a lot better on the that side of NZ. They are a number of good stunt fliers over there that have a lot of experience besides Loren. I have also heard that Paul Lagan no longer flies competitive stunt any more, but guys like Kim Webby, Kevin Barnes, Owen Rogers are all still active. As you mentioned, they do have a stunt series over there as well, and to short-cut your learning curve, it would definitely pay you to spend some time with these guys who I know would be more than willing to help you. I'm sure that most of their e-mails are available on your NZ model flying association website. If not then I know that Adrian Hamilton's contact details are their. If that all fails then send me a PM and I'll give you Loren's e-mail. There is a buzz of excitement over there right now due to the world champs being closer to you guys this time, so there will be a full F2B team as well.

On your Stalker engines, I have it on good authority (I have spies everywhere  #^) that these engines do not like any castor in the fuel. It has something to do with the type of alloys used in the piston/liner. They are also designed to run with very little nitro, just like the Discovery Retro and Double Star engines. It's one thing to play nice tunes in the air but you still need that kick to deliver horsepower so the right fuel is vital. I have used many Ukranian engines through the years and to get them to behave both upright and inverted and then to have a reliable break was always a challenge, but the synthetic only fuel is a good tip. I seem to remember that the amount was 22%. A good source of info on most of these engines is Kaz Minato.

Getting that 4-2-4 break to be reliable, especially in turbulence is a real challenge. Most of the top NZ pilots have gone over to electric power that makes stunt flying a lot simpler, but of course this is just one opinion. I have flown 4-strokes and also diesels in stunt to get a solid constant speed that does not change in the rough stuff. My personal preference in engines is the diesel, but these days ether is really expensive, and electric flies as well or better. My wife also says that I now smell better as well, so I keep my diesel stuff for playing with now. For serious competition, electric is just so much easier and reliable in bad weather. Either way, just enjoy your stunt, and see if you can spread the word to any locals to share the fun! It's so much nicer to have a bunch of people to fly with.

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Re: See me fly! New video of my Brodak Legacy 40.
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2015, 11:54:49 AM »
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Re: See me fly! New video of my Brodak Legacy 40.
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2015, 06:17:48 PM »
Hi Daniel,
Looks like you are heading in the right direction. The Legacy looks great and there is not a lot wrong with your flying either. My young friend Loren Nell moved from Ashburton on the South Island and is now happily living near Hamilton on the North Island. He says that the flying weather is a lot better on the that side of NZ. They are a number of good stunt fliers over there that have a lot of experience besides Loren. I have also heard that Paul Lagan no longer flies competitive stunt any more, but guys like Kim Webby, Kevin Barnes, Owen Rogers are all still active. As you mentioned, they do have a stunt series over there as well, and to short-cut your learning curve, it would definitely pay you to spend some time with these guys who I know would be more than willing to help you. I'm sure that most of their e-mails are available on your NZ model flying association website. If not then I know that Adrian Hamilton's contact details are their. If that all fails then send me a PM and I'll give you Loren's e-mail. There is a buzz of excitement over there right now due to the world champs being closer to you guys this time, so there will be a full F2B team as well.

On your Stalker engines, I have it on good authority (I have spies everywhere  #^) that these engines do not like any castor in the fuel. It has something to do with the type of alloys used in the piston/liner. They are also designed to run with very little nitro, just like the Discovery Retro and Double Star engines. It's one thing to play nice tunes in the air but you still need that kick to deliver horsepower so the right fuel is vital. I have used many Ukranian engines through the years and to get them to behave both upright and inverted and then to have a reliable break was always a challenge, but the synthetic only fuel is a good tip. I seem to remember that the amount was 22%. A good source of info on most of these engines is Kaz Minato.

Getting that 4-2-4 break to be reliable, especially in turbulence is a real challenge. Most of the top NZ pilots have gone over to electric power that makes stunt flying a lot simpler, but of course this is just one opinion. I have flown 4-strokes and also diesels in stunt to get a solid constant speed that does not change in the rough stuff. My personal preference in engines is the diesel, but these days ether is really expensive, and electric flies as well or better. My wife also says that I now smell better as well, so I keep my diesel stuff for playing with now. For serious competition, electric is just so much easier and reliable in bad weather. Either way, just enjoy your stunt, and see if you can spread the word to any locals to share the fun! It's so much nicer to have a bunch of people to fly with.

Keith R

Keith.

Kevin is who I got the Stalker from, he has been very helpful with info on setting up the engine in my model. I've been in touch with Loren about getting one of your governor timers for a future model. I recently traded an engine with Adrian. Yet I've never met any of these men they have all been very helpful.

I've been flying control line over 20 years but only the last year or two have I started to build and fly larger stunters. I see the way forward being electric but I'm struggling to let go of my engines. I am more mechanically minded than electric.

Thanks you for he pointers re oil for the stalker. I will get some full synthetic Klotz and have a go with that.

I'd love to try a big diesel some day, I am a big fan of diesels and flew them almost exclusively when I was a kid, I only owned one glow engine to half a dozen diesels back then. But the price of fuel is prohibitive these days. I will save my remaining ether for free flight models for now.

Furthermore I printed your plans for "Eze Pro" which I'm helping a friend build. He is quite new to control line and it looks a great model for him to learn. It is getting an LA46 on it. Will let you know how it goes.

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« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2015, 01:49:56 AM »
Hi Daniel,

I still enjoy the engines myself and I have stated categorically that if I could afford one of the Yatsenko Yak 55's I would have one already, complete with the engine. The sound, smoke and pong is a big part of the attraction! Like I said, take some time to visit the guys on the other island. It will be invaluable to you and I'm totally sure that any one of these guys would be more than happy to put you up while you're there.

The Eze-Pro turned out to be my best ever profile design and there are many flying really well. It is also quite competitive as well so you can't go wrong with it. The LA .46 will work just fine. The best prop that I've seen so far for this engine is the APC 12.25 x 3.75. If you go the electric route then the APC 11 x 5.5 E prop is great. My best Eze-Pro when I was flying engines was a Tower Hobbies .40 with a diesel head on it. I broke a few Tower .40's as well because they did not like the extra compression. The MVVS .49 on the other hand was a tough engine and I never broke any at all. I trained loads of kids at that time and they all without exception, preferred the diesel to the glow version.  They liked the fact that it runs at one speed and will never suddenly quit near the end of the tank. I would still fly a lot of diesels if the fuel was cheaper.

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Re: See me fly! New video of my Brodak Legacy 40.
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2015, 08:22:09 PM »
Hi There, I really liked your pattern without any critique to the shapes and what not! There several Legacy .40's flying in my club and they all fly quite well! So well in fact that I bought one up at the Brodak FlyIn this year. I am looking forward to building one this fall and winter. The engine runs really well and powers the plane without any complaints!

You could try your ST .46 in the Legacy just for fun and giggles! That is one of my most favorite stunt engines. Mine likes both 10 11-11 and 7 22-3 fuel with the 22% being Castor oil and the 3% being synthetic. This blend is more for cooler weather than now in the heat of the humid summer of Hampton Roads. Today's flying temperature was 93F with humidity of about 73%! Great for sweat!

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« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2015, 03:40:47 AM »
Hi Daniel,

I still enjoy the engines myself and I have stated categorically that if I could afford one of the Yatsenko Yak 55's I would have one already, complete with the engine. The sound, smoke and pong is a big part of the attraction! Like I said, take some time to visit the guys on the other island. It will be invaluable to you and I'm totally sure that any one of these guys would be more than happy to put you up while you're there.

The Eze-Pro turned out to be my best ever profile design and there are many flying really well. It is also quite competitive as well so you can't go wrong with it. The LA .46 will work just fine. The best prop that I've seen so far for this engine is the APC 12.25 x 3.75. If you go the electric route then the APC 11 x 5.5 E prop is great. My best Eze-Pro when I was flying engines was a Tower Hobbies .40 with a diesel head on it. I broke a few Tower .40's as well because they did not like the extra compression. The MVVS .49 on the other hand was a tough engine and I never broke any at all. I trained loads of kids at that time and they all without exception, preferred the diesel to the glow version.  They liked the fact that it runs at one speed and will never suddenly quit near the end of the tank. I would still fly a lot of diesels if the fuel was cheaper.

Keith R

Keith.

I totally agree about the Yatshenko model. I could never justify it though, nor find any explanation for the other half.

I will hopefully meet all the guys next year at the Nationals. I'd wanted to get up this year but couldn't make it happen. Never know I may even shift north some day. Always plenty of jobs for me up there.

Thanks for the prop info for the LA46. Other options I've got are 40FP or ST46. I may be acquiring a friends Cardinal which is setup for an ST46 so it could be spoken for.

I will let you know in due course how the Eze Pro goes for us.

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« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2015, 03:49:25 AM »
Hi There, I really liked your pattern without any critique to the shapes and what not! There several Legacy .40's flying in my club and they all fly quite well! So well in fact that I bought one up at the Brodak FlyIn this year. I am looking forward to building one this fall and winter. The engine runs really well and powers the plane without any complaints!

You could try your ST .46 in the Legacy just for fun and giggles! That is one of my most favorite stunt engines. Mine likes both 10 11-11 and 7 22-3 fuel with the 22% being Castor oil and the 3% being synthetic. This blend is more for cooler weather than now in the heat of the humid summer of Hampton Roads. Today's flying temperature was 93F with humidity of about 73%! Great for sweat!

Best of Luck to You!

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Phil

Thanks for your comments.

The Legacy 40 is the best flying model I've built so far. Miles ahead of my last which was a Sig Banshee.

I didn't own the ST46 when I built it, otherwise it may have gone in at the start. I have only bench run it so far and it runs strong. It's destined for a Cardinal I'm acquiring from a friend. Should be fun.

Hope you get loads of great flying from your Legacy, I sure am from mine.

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Tripped Over This .

Looking Good . Probly Help to whack a 5 Ft pole ( batten ) into the deck , Downwind . And throw a yellow or orage daglo vest over it , for a ' center '  marker point for the Eights Etc .

Have you read Jim Mannels artical on Dave Days site . Englans a windy Island too , so theres a few usefull tips if you dont want the weather to put you off .
Id whacked down some .018s twice , to 55 ft. Thought a slight bump in em might be a worry . A strand mayve gone to be honest . But it pays to have the
lines a bit shorter in a gale . Seems to trim out o.k. a balmy evening you can go out to 70 ft. on .012s , if its trimmed out it wont snap them .
Used to test on .015s for the run ( 60 Ft. ) and go to the 70s if all was well .

Nice Field . I found flying up the line , youd subconciously spot wandering zombies ( city slickers ) as they got within range , and jump ( fly ) over head hight .
Flying High all the time means retraining ( reprogaming the brain cells ) to get everything ' in sync . ' at your 5 or 6 ft . A few weekst to ' get back down low .

Its usefull to have a rent a wreck ( your bend one replastered together - to take out in any conditions . 25 FSR in Nobler size and 47 Oz. made you earn your keep
in the wind . A bit of fast footwork occasionally to stop attempts at reaching China . Brassed off and on edge after visiting the big smoke , youd be all abrubt & harsh
at the handle .
It'd really show up , with the narrow power margin . A couple of flights would have you tuned in and focused . Worst was it cutting loose 12 times on one flight ,
Hypotension . Getting the lines TIGHT  as or just before it hit could pull a lot of the inertia / momentum out of the ' arrival ' Also going in ' square ' was a lot less
stressfull for the airframe . Youd Usually just pull it out of the marsh .
Id got used to this , and didnt bother getting Em Tight ( wintertime ) . Big Mistake . Wing & Fuse both snapped . Packers & a board , pins & PVA ( takes a few days
to harden in winter ) would USUALLY have it airborne in a few days . A week , that time . Hosed the sand out from an inverted ' arrival ' into the edge of the
concrette cricket pitch ( Pulled down in the consecutive outsides while I was trying to make up my mind if the shiela crossing the road or the closeing helicopter were more intresting .
THAT one pulled off the rear end and got ornitopial wings from C S ' issues . Two weeks later the up line went ( on the 70s )
The Experiments walking fwd & back to ' ease ' the loops wernt succesfull ( Was on the way back from the dratted city , The Hy Tension Brain Killer )  Went in Hard , so a repeat exxercise .
However , well over ten gallons through it , Though a few trees and ' a good many ' glancing nlows , vertical arrivals and practising various other accidents ( Er a few dozen ) it was still
under 50 Oz and airworthy , though wore out a few motors . So Save your wreckage . Aligned on a board , pva and a bit of scrap do wonders , and its not as if another ' misscalculation '
will terminate it entirely .

I find its better not to use your better ships for such ' exploratry' flying . With this in mind , the weathers seldom unflyable .

Dunno if Owen rogers is still knocking out foam wings . With a vertical C.S. brace so they dont clap hands , theyre a cheap light plane . A 25 in one would learn you the art of conserving momentum .  ;D

Straight n light & good Controls , Theres enough video around you dont have to have someone hold hands , though it helps stimulate the building urge for the slackers up the line . Sometimes .

This Is Wotcher need . ~^

actually Bryces things trundle round nicely on 55s @ 5.5 if your feeling cheap .

Just Found this noble gentlemans entreaties , though I consider maybe a Sailing Weather & a soaring weather ship may not be the same thing , and trimming wont nessisarilly make a plane all things to all men .
Besides most people have more than one plane . And I only hit something if its neccesary . Prefering the lessons divulged . One being a movable rudder would save a lot of running , on occasion . ;D ;D

http://flyinglines.org/Aerobatics.html

the old 55 in 55 Oz , thereabouts , saves you having to borrow their cricket boots in winter . Had a 11 yr old on a .40 comat wing , barefoot in winter blelow about 40 degrees ( ALTITUDE ) it was teaching him windsurfing .

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Re: See me fly! New video of my Brodak Legacy 40.
« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2016, 10:43:51 AM »
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Was Torbay's flying field , early 70s , behind the road was newly suburbia , after the mongrels chopped the forest behind the second road back , down .

Methanol;was free ( 4 Gallons , then $ 2-50 for the tin , then $ 4 , tin & 4 Gal Imp. 5 US ) Brolite Dope was I think $ 30 , thnners $ 20 for 4 gal .
The Lot up the road were the last of the pre television generation . Give or take . Under Terrace water tank converted to modeling den .

I ended up with a 30 ft x 12 ft ' concrette floor glas fronted ' workshop ' in the early teens . Cycling about the hills delivering the morning papers ,
and later 20 kilometers a night at the run , delivering the milk . Financed 100 odd planes in those years . Only 36 combat wings and 1/2 doz. peacemakers .
or was it a dozen , last few at 12.5 Oz with an OS 20 , no nitro ( couldnt get it ) 60 ft of lt wt ( .012 ) in summer . Combat was .015 so you wouldnt loose them .

Another big flat field up the hill we seldow used . Any shifting air through the ridges would have some weight behind it . Winter Gales and balmy summer evenings .
The Footpath at the far end curves around as they concretted the track and passes by walked outside the circle , someone even dumped a good mower there
for us . So not the entire neighbourhood was up in arms .

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Re: See me fly! New video of my Brodak Legacy 40.
« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2016, 11:23:48 AM »
That legacy can groove!very nice! And I understand safe that stalker sounds like its really happy .Love the sound of a happy motor!


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