Author Topic: Refinishing Crosswinds II (Read 10837 times)

Crist Rigotti · « **Reply #50 on:** December 10, 2010, 04:05:31 PM »

Looks nice Will.

Jeff Traxler · « **Reply #51 on:** December 11, 2010, 10:05:13 AM »

Hey Will,Lookin' GOOD.Can't wait to launch it.Those R/C guys keep the grass nice where we fly.Think they will plow the grass for us so we don't have to wait til' spring to go flyin'

?Remember I still have not did a cloverleaf(At least on porpose!!!) so pray for 70 degrees and 6 knots or less.Jeffery

Bill Little · « **Reply #52 on:** December 11, 2010, 11:43:29 AM »

Quote from: Will Hinton on December 10, 2010, 12:14:04 PM

The last for this point.

That's really nice, Will! I love the paint scheme.

Big Bear

Will Hinton · « **Reply #53 on:** December 13, 2010, 08:13:18 PM »

Thanks guys. I sprayed clear today and it became a tiny disaster. Part way through the second coat my ten year-old-without-ever-being-overhauled-and-used-way-too-much-for-that-to-be-the-case spray gun popped a seal and dripped on the fuse in several spots before I got it off the beast. Drat. Now I gotta go back and sand, sand, sand. Phooey. I also gotta overhaul the gun. Oh well. It's winter, nuthin' better to do right now. b (I seem to remember thinking I should replace the seals a year ago while spraying a guitar. Hmmmm. Senior approach?)

Allen Goff · « **Reply #54 on:** December 14, 2010, 04:52:24 AM »

Great job on the graphics Will. Is the PA 75 going in this one?

Blessings

Will Hinton · « **Reply #55 on:** December 14, 2010, 09:12:04 AM »

Allen,
Thanks Partner. YES, the PA75 will go back in the beast. At 63 ounces with the 75 in it I should be able to fly 25 second laps and still have tension. (Well, maybe I stretch it just a tad bit.)

Bill Little · « **Reply #56 on:** December 14, 2010, 09:56:30 AM »

Quote from: Will Hinton on December 14, 2010, 09:12:04 AM

Allen,
Thanks Partner. YES, the PA75 will go back in the beast. At 63 ounces with the 75 in it I should be able to fly 25 second laps and still have tension. (Well, maybe I stretch it just a tad bit.)

Hi Brother Will,

The only problem with 25 second laps is that you would over run somewhere around the square 8's probably!

Will Hinton · « **Reply #57 on:** December 14, 2010, 04:01:48 PM »

Good point, big brother! Besides, I'd probably fall asleep during inverted.

Bill Little · « **Reply #58 on:** December 14, 2010, 06:24:20 PM »

Quote from: Will Hinton on December 14, 2010, 04:01:48 PM

Good point, big brother! Besides, I'd probably fall asleep during inverted.

Gonna tell on myself here, Brother Will. Long, long ago, at a contest far, far away (Norfolk, VA) I DID fall asleep inverted.

Took the canopy off the T-Bird II, broke the prop at the spinner, but, thankfully it was in front of Dale Barry and he killed the '72 Fox .40S shaft run.......

john e. holliday · « **Reply #59 on:** December 15, 2010, 08:51:17 AM »

Will, I hate to burst your bubble any than the desaster with the clear, but, double check your stars on the bottom wing. To me the outboard doesn't match the inboard. Maybe its my eyes, but, the outboard wing has two stars that don't look right.

The plane looks gorgeous otherwise.

Will Hinton · « **Reply #60 on:** December 15, 2010, 12:22:47 PM »

My stars, Doc, how ya doin'? Actually, those won't be getting any clear, so if such is the case, I can re-do them afterward. I'm only clear coating the decals on the wings and the whole fuse for fuel proofing. I have it all masked off right now so can't check it out. I'll do so and let ya know when I get to that point.
Thanks much, Doc, I appreciate it!

Will Hinton · « **Reply #61 on:** December 15, 2010, 12:26:11 PM »

Duuhhh Will, why dontcha just look at the same picture Doc was lookin' at!?

I did, and you are so right, Doc. I'll redo those when I get it unmasked. I owe ya a Big Mac!

Bill Little · « **Reply #62 on:** December 15, 2010, 01:40:56 PM »

Well, by golly......... the last two stars on the bottom of the outboard wing ARE going in the wrong direction! Didn't notice that when I looked at it. I did notice a design in the stars on the bottom of the stab/elev though. The inboard is a bit clearer.

Will Hinton · « **Reply #63 on:** December 16, 2010, 07:45:34 AM »

I really intended the bottom of the stab to be totally random. If there's a pattern, I goofed again!!

Will Hinton · « **Reply #64 on:** December 18, 2010, 12:51:39 PM »

I sprayed the clear this afternoon, it went much better with the new gun. I decided the old gun was way too much bother and risk to overhaul, so broke free of some cash. The other gun was quite aged anyway. This little cheapie touch-up gun works great. Now to wait 'til it cures and then unmask it so I can fix Doc's stars!
I want to weigh it tomorrow afternoon or Monday AM to see how it's doing. I really don't look for much change.

Will Hinton · « **Reply #65 on:** December 18, 2010, 04:01:58 PM »

Good old two-part clear. I unmasked the beast and fixed Doc's stars. Doc, it looks so much better that we'll make that a combo meal and biggie size it!
Weighed the monster, exactly the same as before! That makes me very happy. There's a couple of touch-up things to do yet, but with little effort it will be done and I can get back to the scale Tri-Pacer.
The finish is much better than before, but still not a super nice one - that just isn't something I'm interested in. I fly "stand-off" stunt, ya gotta stray 15 feet away when judging! But it's pretty from there. The guys will let me set it with theirs now, though.

I'll post a final picture when it's done.

john e. holliday · « **Reply #66 on:** December 20, 2010, 09:09:00 AM »

Hey you can surely make up the 19 points by flying. {No I didn't call you Schirly}

Most of the maneuvers are done about 100 feet away from the so called judges.

I envy you guys that can do great finishes.

Will Hinton · « **Reply #67 on:** December 20, 2010, 02:05:40 PM »

major tragedy today.

I decided to buff out a spot on the elevator, got distracted, and caught the thing on the buffer. Broke the horizantal empenage loose, cracked the inboard fuse side for about six inches in front of the stab, and, of course, damaged the elevator. Stupid mistake on my part. It's reparible, but it sure is disappointing to pull a stunt like that. Now it's off to the races for finish repair on that area. I intend to cut the bottom out below that spot to put a scab in on the inboard side to insure structural strength. Hey, if I'm gonna spray more paint, might as well do it right.

Randy Powell · « **Reply #68 on:** December 20, 2010, 02:12:37 PM »

I hate it when that happens.

Bill Little · « **Reply #69 on:** December 20, 2010, 04:01:50 PM »

Hi Will,

I'm sorry to hear of the set back. At least you have time to do the repairs before it warms up enough to get out flying!

Stay with it.

Bill

Will Hinton · « **Reply #70 on:** December 20, 2010, 09:55:51 PM »

Randy, Yes, I hate it when it happens, but it's a million times worse since I pulled such a stupid stunt that I knew better than to try! Why do I do that? Oh well, I have plenty of touch-up paint.

Bill, yeah, I'll stay with it, the ship is too good a flier to abandon.

Will Hinton · « **Reply #71 on:** December 21, 2010, 02:57:51 PM »

The structural damage is all repaired, I doubt if I added more than a quarter ounce, but it still gripes me that I would do that. Tomorrow I start sanding and getting ready to blend in the repair spots. We have a funeral mid-day, but should be home by 1:00 and then whackin' away at it.
I cut a hatch out of the bottom and inspected the fuse, then added hard balsa 1/16 scabs over the split area and the stab attachment points, and replaced the hatch. The tail section is good and stiff.

Bill Little · « **Reply #72 on:** December 21, 2010, 10:46:48 PM »

Brother Will,

I'm glad it wasn't more involved! Sounds like you have it covered, no problem.

BTW: How much fuel, and type, are you burning in the .75? Using a clunk tank or metal?

Thanks,
Bill

john e. holliday · « **Reply #73 on:** December 22, 2010, 07:58:03 AM »

Will, at least you didn't do like a young man back in the day. According to the story, if something didn't go right with the plane it was destroyed. I hate to think how many planes that person went thru to get one finished.

Bill Little · « **Reply #74 on:** December 22, 2010, 08:03:15 AM »

Quote from: john e. holliday on December 22, 2010, 07:58:03 AM

Will, at least you didn't do like a young man back in the day. According to the story, if something didn't go right with the plane it was destroyed. I hate to think how many planes that person went thru to get one finished.

From Jack Sheeks, I understand Bernie Ash used to destroy his planes and start over when something happened he didn't like. Jack told a story of Bernie taking everything model related out in back yard and having a great big bon fire once. Jack said Bernie was calling to go to the hobby shop with him a day or two later.

Merry Christmas!

Will Hinton · « **Reply #75 on:** December 22, 2010, 02:12:55 PM »

Hey Bill,
My 75 burns 7.5 ounces at 9400 RPM flying 5.7 to 5.8 second laps on a 13.75 X 4.25 three blade for a run of 6:30 to 6:45. It will change as it breaks in more, but it has less than two hours on it right now. My 65 is 7 years old and is just now broken in as far as I'm concerned! The 65 burns 6.5 ounces at the same rpm range and same lap and flight times on a 13.5 X 4.25 three blade. Great engines!!!!

Bill Little · « **Reply #76 on:** December 22, 2010, 09:45:21 PM »

Quote from: Will Hinton on December 22, 2010, 02:12:55 PM

Hey Bill,
My 75 burns 7.5 ounces at 9400 RPM flying 5.7 to 5.8 second laps on a 13.75 X 4.25 three blade for a run of 6:30 to 6:45. It will change as it breaks in more, but it has less than two hours on it right now. My 65 is 7 years old and is just now broken in as far as I'm concerned! The 65 burns 6.5 ounces at the same rpm range and same lap and flight times on a 13.5 X 4.25 three blade. Great engines!!!!

Thanks, Will.

I guess I will have to be content with the "lowly" PA .61 and PA .51 engines we have here for now.LOL!!

Taking my Geo Juno for example, it started life around 1996 with a OS .40VF. Went to a PA .51 and now a PA .61. Each change brought about definite differences in the way the plane flew. The .51 to .61 change wasn't as much, but noticeable. I have no clue how it would be with a .65 or .75!

Will Hinton · « **Reply #77 on:** December 23, 2010, 06:55:01 AM »

I forgot to answer your question completely Bill. I use clunk tanks, have ever since Bob Hunt showed me how to plumb the beasts back in the early 90's and wouldn't go back to metal if ya held a gun to my head! I use the Sullivan slant model exclusively.

Will Hinton · « **Reply #78 on:** January 06, 2011, 08:12:04 PM »

Finally back together! The bad judgement on my part cost me dearly in weight! The repairs added much more than I wanted to - it was coming out at the same weight as where I started. Oh well.
since my cheap camera uses up so much memory per picture I'll use four posts here. I'm pleased with the outcome except for the weight, but it's still a "stand off stunt" model. (Stay 15 feet away.)

Will Hinton · « **Reply #79 on:** January 06, 2011, 08:14:27 PM »

Let's try two pics this time, just to see whahoppens.

Will Hinton · « **Reply #80 on:** January 06, 2011, 08:18:27 PM »

And a comparison.

John Leidle · « **Reply #81 on:** January 06, 2011, 08:43:19 PM »

  Hi Wil,
  I just read this post from start to finish, I had to laugh about the buffer incident. I did the same thing to my Skylark2 it flipped the thing across the basement. I believe it flew better that way than it did with the .51 Tiger .
   Maybe this July you can stay at the field until lunch time.

Happy New Year, john

Bill Little · « **Reply #82 on:** January 06, 2011, 09:14:15 PM »

Brother Will,

I love the graphics, they just hit me right! The Eagles are AWESOME!

(and do really think Roger would get in the backseat?? LOL!!!!!!!!)

Very, very nice, Will. I hope to get to see it.

Bill

Crist Rigotti · « **Reply #83 on:** January 06, 2011, 09:42:17 PM »

Very, very nice looking airplane Will.

Randy Powell · « **Reply #84 on:** January 06, 2011, 09:49:31 PM »

Looks very cool, Will. Very cool.

Will Hinton · « **Reply #85 on:** January 07, 2011, 07:19:02 AM »

Thanks guys, and John, you have no idea how good you just made me feel!

I don't know yet what my nats schedule is going to be, but I hope we can make time to get together.
I just weighed the original Crosswind and it is SIX ounces lighter than number two! Number two used to be one ounce lighter than number one! Ouch.

John Leidle · « **Reply #86 on:** January 07, 2011, 10:01:41 AM »

If I remember ...it was almost time to fly & you had to return home. I was surprised but after you told me why I understood. I hope this year you are able to stay a bit longer.
John

Will Hinton · « **Reply #87 on:** January 07, 2011, 02:31:43 PM »

So do I, I don't think I'm going to judge scale this year, that will change things as far as time spent at Muncie.
Will

Dennis Adamisin · « **Reply #88 on:** January 08, 2011, 07:42:22 AM »

NICE!!

...and just how DID you coinvince Roger to sit in back???

john e. holliday · « **Reply #89 on:** January 08, 2011, 09:42:04 AM »

As in real life the instructor always sits in the back.

Dennis Adamisin · « **Reply #90 on:** January 08, 2011, 11:03:53 AM »

Quote from: john e. holliday on January 08, 2011, 09:42:04 AM

As in real life the instructor always sits in the back.

But ONLY if he has a set of flight controls & can take over!

Will Hinton · « **Reply #91 on:** January 08, 2011, 12:48:15 PM »

hey, it's my airplane! I always had to take a back seat to Roger while he was still flying advanced, so this time it's my turn. (pout, pout.)
In all seriousness, I will ALWAYS take a back seat to Roger when it comes to finishing -he is simply one of the premier finishers in the sport! And I need to add here, one of the sports nicest guys, otherwise I wouldn't pick on him.

Dennis Adamisin · « **Reply #92 on:** January 08, 2011, 01:19:38 PM »

Quote from: Will Hinton on January 08, 2011, 12:48:15 PM

hey, it's my airplane! I always had to take a back seat to Roger while he was still flying advanced, so this time it's my turn. (pout, pout.)
In all seriousness, I will ALWAYS take a back seat to Roger when it comes to finishing -he is simply one of the premier finishers in the sport! And I need to add here, one of the sports nicest guys, otherwise I wouldn't pick on him.

..and if YOU weren't one of the sports nicest guys I wouldn't pick on YOU either...

Will Hinton · « **Reply #93 on:** January 09, 2011, 03:35:07 PM »

Bless you Denny, thank you.

Crist Rigotti · « **Reply #94 on:** January 09, 2011, 09:54:13 PM »

Quote from: Dennis Adamisin on January 08, 2011, 01:19:38 PM

..and if YOU weren't one of the sports nicest guys I wouldn't pick on YOU either...

Ditto!

John Sunderland · « **Reply #95 on:** February 06, 2011, 12:06:02 PM »

Been a little absent and figured it was time to check in. Looking good Will! Sorry to hear about buffer incident. See you at WPAFB in a few weeks!

Will Hinton · « **Reply #96 on:** February 06, 2011, 02:44:47 PM »

Thanks John,
I'm in a quandary here, my 97 year old mother-in-law is not doing well, has been coming up with one health problem after another since falling a couple of months ago, and it looks like I need to hang around here as much as possible. We've been making the 45 minute drive every other day and will continue to do so until she's well enough to go to a nursing home.
The dear lady is still sharp as can be mentally, has a conquering spirit, so we are hopeful for her recovery and to get her back to living alone as she has done up until now. I more than likely will not be able to make Dayton as a result.
Blessings, tell all I said "HI!"
Will

john e. holliday · « **Reply #97 on:** February 06, 2011, 03:46:14 PM »

Hey Will, sorry to hear about your Mother-in-law. Remember also family comes first if John hasn't told you yet. My Mother-in-law and phone call interceptor was 83 when she finally got tired of all the things bothering her. What I really think made her give up was when the medical doctor told her she had two weeks. Take care and hope to meet you one of these days.

Bill Little · « **Reply #98 on:** February 06, 2011, 11:09:15 PM »

Quote from: Will Hinton on February 06, 2011, 02:44:47 PM

Thanks John,
I'm in a quandary here, my 97 year old mother-in-law is not doing well, has been coming up with one health problem after another since falling a couple of months ago, and it looks like I need to hang around here as much as possible. We've been making the 45 minute drive every other day and will continue to do so until she's well enough to go to a nursing home.
The dear lady is still sharp as can be mentally, has a conquering spirit, so we are hopeful for her recovery and to get her back to living alone as she has done up until now. I more than likely will not be able to make Dayton as a result.
Blessings, tell all I said "HI!"
Will

My thoughts, best wishes, and Prayers for you all, Brother Will.
Bill

Will Hinton · « **Reply #99 on:** February 07, 2011, 02:36:57 PM »

Thanks friends,
We appreciate the prayers and kind wishes. She looked pretty good today, we went and had lunch with her at the rehab center. They have her off all anti-biotics but one now, so here's hoping. (And praying.
doc, we gotta meet sooner or later.
And coach, get your sorry big___up here again soon!

(Ya know I'm kiddin', dontcha?)

Author Topic: Refinishing Crosswinds II (Read 10837 times)

John Leidle

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