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Offline Tom Niebuhr

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Re: profile war birds
« Reply #50 on: May 08, 2014, 06:48:24 AM »
As you know, Joe Gilbert's Hutchinson T-6 has more flights on it that 10 DC-3s. Rumour has it that the Tulsa club is building several new T-6s and might have a T-6 airforce!

Don's T-34 and Turbo T-34 are really great looking winners.

All of Don's airplanes are eligible for the Warbird Stunt events that are appearing. The Baton Rouge group have done a great job getting this started.

Attached is a picture taken at last nights Dallas Club meeting, of some old guy holding his Avenger.
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« Reply #51 on: May 08, 2014, 07:09:20 AM »
Tom,
I assume your wing is covered with poly span and doped before primer?

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« Reply #52 on: May 08, 2014, 08:16:20 AM »
Jim,
Sand the bare wood with 320 paper. About 4 coats of clear dope on the bare wood. Sand every other coat with 320 paper. While not necessary, then cover with carbon veil. 2 or 3 more coats of clear then sand with 320. The veil does two things. 1) It helps prevent the sheeting edge sheeting from sagging between the ribs as the airplane ages 2) It prevents the wood grain from showing after the airplanes ages.

Now apply the silkspan, silk or polyspan. Yes, I use polyspan. Then about 4 coats of clear, again sanding every other coat with 320. paper.

It is then ready for primer of your choice. This airplane has the NAPA 540 primer that Bob Storick uses. It is compatible under and over dope, and the auto finishes can be used with it.  The old dope mixed with talc will also work as primer. The choice is yours.

This is the basic procedure for finishing any stunter. As always, the key is the sanding for both the finish and weight control. You always remove more than you put on.

After this then apply your colors, decals, ink lines and any other details. Then clear dope or auto clear coat.  From here on go to finer and finer paper, 400, 600, 1000 etc. The more work you put in, the better the results.

See Sparky's (Bob Storick) finishing method. He is probably the best at applying a great finish in a minimum of time. There are many finishing variations that have presented on this forum. , but you cannot escape getting sore fingers from sanding. There are no secrets, it remains as to how far you want to go with it.
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« Reply #53 on: May 08, 2014, 10:27:43 AM »
Tom,
Do you put carbon over the open wing bays or just the structure?

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« Reply #54 on: May 08, 2014, 11:02:17 AM »
Jim,
Carbon does not go over the open rib bays. But I cut narrow strips of carbon to go over the capstrips.
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« Reply #55 on: May 08, 2014, 12:14:16 PM »
That is going to look so good when finished! Should be a good flyer too! As you are finding out, the warbirds are big airplanes capable of turning a nice pattern in hands more skilled than mine!
A bit of possibly good news, I may be getting the master copies of all the warbird plans back. Will keep ya'll posted on this.
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« Reply #56 on: May 08, 2014, 02:38:52 PM »
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« Reply #57 on: May 09, 2014, 07:38:29 AM »
Tom, that old guy holding the plane looks great compared to what he has been through.  Also you are right about the sanding.  Mr. Meriwether used to say it takes two to three times longer to finish a plane than it does to build.  Would you believe he used house paint on some planes way back then. 
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« Reply #58 on: May 09, 2014, 09:37:25 AM »
Doc,
Others have been through worse than me.

House paint???? Nothing surprises me anymore.   Today everything has gotten so expensive, that there is no wonder why people are trying new things. A pint of Brodak color dope (and I am sure any other brand) costs than a gallon of fuel. And... fuel ain't cheap!
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« Reply #59 on: May 12, 2014, 06:01:14 AM »
A small update this time.

I have started applying the SuperFil fillets. Hope to have this done in a few says. Then it is taking care of the little nitpicking items. That could take a while.
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Re: profile war birds
« Reply #60 on: May 13, 2014, 09:46:19 PM »
Hi gents  H^^
A friend of mine, Sérgio Daeuble, engineer by profession redesigned two lil warbirds that were kitted in the 60´s here in Brazil. The planes were from a series called semi-profiles and were composed by 3 designs, ME-109, Spitfire and P-40 flying Tiger.
He took and modernized both the ME-109 and the Spitfire. He built the ME-109 an I had built the Spitfire.
I dont know if the pics we took are in the correct size for here at SH but I will try to attach then.
The decals were the originals from the formers kits and gave a good touch in either models  :)
Carlo

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« Reply #61 on: May 14, 2014, 08:41:09 AM »
The planes look great and the photos came thru fine.   
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