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Offline RC Storick

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Please vote POLL
« on: April 16, 2011, 04:04:34 PM »
If you have a diffrent rule submit it and we can post it.


A 6. Builder of Model: The CD shall make every reasonable effort to assure himself that each flier has completely “constructed‟ the model(s) he or she uses in competition. “Constructed” to be interpreted as the action required to complete a model starting with the construction of the airframe ,covering and finish. Materials and design for the aircraft may be obtained from any source. Models may be fabricated from kit components such as wings the have been pre assembled less covering and finish. Models that are commercially available in the ready to fly state are excluded from competition.

B 6. Builder of Model: The CD shall make every reasonable effort to assure himself that each flier has completely “constructed‟ the model(s) he uses in competition, including the covering where used, with “constructed” to be interpreted as the action required to complete a model starting with no more prefabrication than the amount used in the average kit. Models which are completely prefabricated and require only a few minutes of unskilled effort for their completion shall be excluded from competition. In the case of rubber-powered models (excluding Indoor duration models), commercially available balsa, plastic, and hardwood propellers may be used. Materials and design may be obtained from any source, including kits. The builder-of-the-model rule applies to every AMA event unless specifically noted otherwise in the rules governing that event.

C 6.  Builder of Model: The CD shall make every reasonable effort to assure himself that each flier has completely “constructed‟ the entire model used in competition, including all construction, fabrication, installation of mechanical components, and all covering and finish where used. “Construction” and "Fabrication" is to be only interpreted as the actions required to complete said model and to begin with no pre-fabrication, pre-assembly, pre-installation, or covering and/or finish work unless these tasks were also performed by the flier. Models which use any pre-constructed, pre-fabricated, pre-installed or pre-finished structure, components or finish other than those created by the flier shall be excluded from competition. Materials and design may be obtained from any source of the builder/fliers choice. This builder-of-the-model "BOM" rule as described applies specifically to the AMA Stunt event unless specifically noted otherwise in the rules governing that event.

D 6. Builder of Model: Pertaining to the Age Group Classes, J/S/O, of AMA competition in Control Line Stunt (CLPA), the "competitor" shall make every reasonable effort to assure himself that he/she has completely “constructed‟ the model(s) he/she uses in competition, including the covering where used, with “constructed” to be interpreted as the action required to complete a model to flying stage.  The final "finish" must be applied by the competitor whether it be "paint" materials or any other "covering" such as "iron ons".  No items used in construction will be allowed which have a final "finish" (which is the basis for Appearance Points being awarded) already applied when obtained for construction of the model(s).  Any components which are in a "raw", unfinished state are allowed.  An example would be a pre-sheeted foam core wing where the balsa sheeting has no materials applied to the exterior of the sheeting.

Models which are completely prefabricated and require only a minimum of unskilled effort for their completion shall be excluded from competition.  Materials and design may be obtained from any source, including kits. The builder-of-the-model rule applies to every AMA Age Group event in the Control Line "Stunt" (CLPA) classifications.

The CD/ED of any contest outside of the NATS in the Age Group classes may use this rule to ascertain whether or not Appearance Points can be awarded to models submitted by each competitor as deemed by the Builder of the Model rule, if applied.  Such rules must be announced in all communications for the contest if the BOM is instituted, and AP will be awarded.

The entering of a model under this rule, by the competitor, is understood to be a statement by the competitor that the model meets the standards for the Builder of the Model Rule.

E Builder Of the Model

Contestants who enter their models in contests where the Builder Of the Model rule is in use must follow the specifics below.

Methods used to construct the model are not described and open to any and all forms of available technology as long as the contestant is the one using the technology to build the parts and plane.

In order to be considered the Builder Of the Model the contestant must build the major components of his/her model.  A list of parts that have to be built by the contestant are found below.

FOAM WINGS WHERE USED MUST BE SHEETED AND FINISHED BY THE BUILDER
BUILT UP WINGS
FUSELAGE
STABILIZERS
ELEVATORS
FLAPS
RUDDERS
TOP and BOTTOM BLOCKS SANDED OR MOLDED

The contestant must be the one who completes the final construction of the model into one piece.

Where take apart hardware is use the builder must also be the one who installs and sets the alignment of said hardware.

COVERING WHERE APPLICABLE MUST BE APPLIED BY THE BUILDER.

100% OF THE FINISH MUST BE APPLIED BY THE BUILDER, THIS INCLUDES FINAL CLEAR COAT WHERE APPLICABLE.

Methods used to finish the model are not described and open to any and all forms of available products as long as the contestant is the one applying the finish to the plane.

Contestants may receive help during any phase of the building and or finishing of the model.  As long as the contestant is doing the work and the help received is in a support and or teaching role.

« Last Edit: April 17, 2011, 01:09:59 PM by Robert Storick »
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Re: Please vote POLL
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2011, 03:12:52 PM »
Where is F?

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Re: Please vote POLL
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2011, 07:37:57 PM »
In the old DOC's opinion, no matter what rule you come up with, there will be people that will still have others build for them.  Just like when someone posted a photo of a plane that he designed, glued and sanded all the parts.  Even put the colors and graphics on.  Then because of an accident in which was barely able to hold the paint gun had someone else spray the final clear on.  I would have never complained about that even if the individual was still flying competition.   

By the way I did not vote as I didn't like any of them and only the honest will tell the truth. VD~
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Re: Please vote POLL
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2011, 08:48:31 PM »
What are the results so far?
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Re: Please vote POLL
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2011, 03:04:03 AM »
They all seem too long for just one rule in a model airplane event.  It was sort of a "where's Waldo" execise the devine the difference between them.

If "use current AMA Rules" was on the menu, I would have voted for that.
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Re: Please vote POLL
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2011, 04:42:31 PM »
In the old DOC's opinion, no matter what rule you come up with, there will be people that will still have others build for them.  Just like when someone posted a photo of a plane that he designed, glued and sanded all the parts.  Even put the colors and graphics on.  Then because of an accident in which was barely able to hold the paint gun had someone else spray the final clear on.  I would have never complained about that even if the individual was still flying competition.   

By the way I did not vote as I didn't like any of them and only the honest will tell the truth. VD~

I concur. We can all go and beat this to the death, but in the end, if there is a doubt, it will always be there.  H^^

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Re: Please vote POLL
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2011, 10:43:03 AM »
Hmm, I can't vote apparently. Well, I'd go with E anyway.
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Re: Please vote POLL
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2011, 10:51:48 AM »
I hope everyone noticed that last years rule for 1 vote.
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Re: Please vote POLL
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2011, 10:58:49 AM »
Hmm, maybe I already voted and just don't remember. Wouldn't be the first time I forgot something.   ;D
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