Author Topic: Plane ID please (Read 2943 times)

Paul Taylor · « **on:** January 28, 2022, 02:09:11 PM »

My new flying buddy picked up this and ask for a ID.
Looks like a Clown fuselage but the wing is a little different. Maybe a “Frankenship”?

Anyone?

Tim Wescott · « **Reply #1 on:** January 28, 2022, 02:33:41 PM »

Generic 50's sport?

Post the engine size and wingspan, that'll be a help. Unless it's something obvious and I just don't know because I wasn't born early enough.

Paul Taylor · « **Reply #2 on:** January 28, 2022, 02:46:57 PM »

It did not have a engine. He put a Enya 35 on it.
I will see if I can get a wing span.
Thanks

Dan McEntee · « **Reply #3 on:** January 28, 2022, 03:44:43 PM »

The wing looks to be Sterling "Yakish". That's a technical term, look it up!
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee

Ken Culbertson · « **Reply #4 on:** January 28, 2022, 03:51:39 PM »

Quote from: Dan McEntee on January 28, 2022, 03:44:43 PM

The wing looks to be Sterling "Yakish". That's a technical term, look it up!
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee

I am going with the modified Yak or maybe a Whipsaw wing. Size matters.

Ken

AMV · « **Reply #5 on:** January 28, 2022, 04:00:02 PM »

MiG-3.

Paul Taylor · « **Reply #6 on:** January 28, 2022, 04:29:05 PM »

It’s a 40 inch wingspan.

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #7 on:** January 28, 2022, 06:25:31 PM »

Paul I think it's a bashed Goldberg P 40....

Dave

Paul Taylor · « **Reply #8 on:** January 28, 2022, 06:45:58 PM »

Quote from: Dave_Trible on January 28, 2022, 06:25:31 PM

Paul I think it's a bashed Goldberg P 40....

Dave

Yea I thought the same. The fuselage looks like a Super Clown so I’m thinking Frankenship 😀

Ken Culbertson · « **Reply #9 on:** January 28, 2022, 08:01:56 PM »

Span is wrong for the P-40 and didn't the Goldberg profiles have a top and bottom spar? I never built the P-40 but I have built most of the rest in that series. Great fliers for their day. This one looks like a Sterling type wing. Having said that, the P-40 is a close fit. So is the Yak.........

It is a modified fixed flap Yak-9, admit it! It oozes Sterling. Look at the tip design, the short nose doublers, thin wing, wheel location. Even the stab looks like a Yak. No way this started as a Goldberg kit.

Ken

wwwarbird · « **Reply #10 on:** January 28, 2022, 10:28:42 PM »

It's not a Nobler.

Leonard Bourel · « **Reply #11 on:** January 29, 2022, 09:11:05 AM »

Hi guys The Goldberg P40 had a 43 inch span with same wing as the Cosmic wind minus 1 rib at each tip and a big rounded tip
It also had a strait leading edge I still have most of the full size plan Yes there is a spar top and bottom.

L0U CRANE · « **Reply #12 on:** January 29, 2022, 11:40:17 AM »

My first impression is a Goldberg Shoestring wing, with an ad-libbed fuse side view and possibly stab/el shape.

Engine is a fairly large (35 or 40? ) "recent" BB ENYA, (muffler shape is the give-away and "ENYA" is legible on it.) Throttle-equipped, can't see if it is operable or tied off at WOT.

Phil Spillman · « **Reply #13 on:** January 29, 2022, 01:41:50 PM »

I was lead to think a modified Ambroid Whipsaw with wheels added and fuselage modified!

Phil Spillman

Dave Hull · « **Reply #14 on:** January 29, 2022, 05:15:22 PM »

It IS a Nobler. Paul's an expert at Photoshop....

The Divot

De Hill · « **Reply #15 on:** January 29, 2022, 06:02:43 PM »

It looks like a Johnny Casburn model. One of the "Miss Behave's"?

Paul Taylor · « **Reply #16 on:** January 29, 2022, 08:14:43 PM »

Quote from: Dave Hull on January 29, 2022, 05:15:22 PM

It IS a Nobler. Paul's an expert at Photoshop....

The Divot

Hahaha David. 🤪

Scott Richlen · « **Reply #17 on:** January 31, 2022, 06:44:10 AM »

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It looks like a Johnny Casburn model. One of the "Miss Behave's"?

I was wondering if it was. I recall seeing the advertisements for Johnny Casburn models in the back of American Modeler in the 60s but have never seen one in person. Who was Johnny Casburn? How long was he in business? Maybe 5 years? Were his kits any good? How did they fly? Can anyone fill us in?

MikeyPratt · « **Reply #18 on:** January 31, 2022, 10:55:18 AM »

Jonny Casburn was modeler from Iowa (Des Moises I think) and he produced a number of kits, I don’t remember how long he was in business (maybe 10 years or less) but I did manage to meet him at a few contest that were in Iowa. He was a pretty nice guy to talk to. I think Bob Baldus knew him also.

It doesn’t look like anything I ever seen except the Yak Wing & tail feathers, the fuse looks like a Flying Clown but that’s all I see, more than likely, it’s a combination of a few crashed models that he assembled into a flyable model of some kind. I did the same thing with the a Thunderbird and Ringmaster, I called it a Ringleader it flew pretty good and managed to live a long life until I crashed into the bleachers at a football field.

Later,
Mikey

bobsrc · « **Reply #19 on:** January 31, 2022, 11:24:44 AM »

Johnny Casburn was from Texas. The Johnny from Iowa was from the Des Moines, Iowa and had CMI Models that Kitted the Guillotine combat airplane and some 1/2 A sport control liners.

De Hill · « **Reply #20 on:** January 31, 2022, 12:13:38 PM »

Johnny Casburn (AMECO) kitted airplanes from the 1940's up until the late '60s - early '70s both C/L and R/C.

Your airplane looks like a Miss Behave profile.

Elwyn Aud · « **Reply #21 on:** January 31, 2022, 04:33:00 PM »

Bill Wilson's Miss Behave

Paul Taylor · « **Reply #22 on:** January 31, 2022, 07:49:52 PM »

Well Bill brought it to the field today and he flew it 3 times.
The horizontal stab looks like a Magician, the fuselage looked like a Clown and the wing was a thin airfoil, NOT a Shoestring and was mounted almost flush with the bottom. I’m going with Frankenship. 🤪

Ken Culbertson · « **Reply #23 on:** January 31, 2022, 08:34:39 PM »

Quote from: Paul Taylor on January 31, 2022, 07:49:52 PM

Well Bill brought it to the field today and he flew it 3 times.
The horizontal stab looks like a Magician, the fuselage looked like a Clown and the wing was a thin airfoil, NOT a Shoestring and was mounted almost flush with the bottom. I’m going with Frankenship. 🤪

Face it - it is a Yak.
Ken

pat king · « **Reply #24 on:** January 31, 2022, 09:34:02 PM »

It is not a Super Whipsaw wing. Those are 41" span, but a very small chord. The Super Whipsaw wing has a tiny 234 square inches. My old Ambroid Super Whipsaw with a BB Enya 29 IV B Model 5224 was a rocketship.

Pat

Mark wood · « **Reply #25 on:** February 01, 2022, 07:09:16 AM »

It's definitely a franken speculation generator which is certainly working quite well on overdrive.

Dan McEntee · « **Reply #26 on:** February 01, 2022, 07:52:48 AM »

Quote from: Paul Taylor on January 31, 2022, 07:49:52 PM

Well Bill brought it to the field today and he flew it 3 times.
The horizontal stab looks like a Magician, the fuselage looked like a Clown and the wing was a thin airfoil, NOT a Shoestring and was mounted almost flush with the bottom. I’m going with Frankenship. 🤪

Yeah, Frankenplane for sure but using a Yak wing. If it ever gets dunked to the point where you have to peel the covering off, then you can see the guts and look for ink stampings on the parts and such and the type of construction. It really doesn't mean anything but is interesting to know. On the Casburn front, I think all versions of the Miss Behave had constant chord wings I believe.
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee

Bill Gibson · « **Reply #27 on:** February 01, 2022, 05:53:21 PM »

Hi everyone! just wanted to thank all of ya's for trying to figure out what this plane is! I bought it 30 years ago at a hobby shop for 10 bucks ......Took it out Monday with Paul Taylor and it fly's like a brick! but it does fly!With Paul,s help i'm flying Control Line again after a 30+ year hiatus, and at 63, i'm having a BALL! Hope to get to know all of you better as time goes by! This is my first post!

Ken Culbertson · « **Reply #28 on:** February 01, 2022, 06:26:32 PM »

Quote from: Bill Gibson on February 01, 2022, 05:53:21 PM

Hi everyone! just wanted to thank all of ya's for trying to figure out what this plane is! I bought it 30 years ago at a hobby shop for 10 bucks ......Took it out Monday with Paul Taylor and it fly's like a brick! but it does fly!With Paul,s help i'm flying Control Line again after a 30+ year hiatus, and at 63, i'm having a BALL! Hope to get to know all of you better as time goes by! This is my first post!

I was out for 30 and what is great is that you lose all of your old bad habits and get to make a whole new set!

Welcome back ! Don't let any of these guessers here fool you - it is a Yak. I have had several and they all flew like bricks.
ken

Mark wood · « **Reply #29 on:** February 01, 2022, 07:01:34 PM »

Quote from: Bill Gibson on February 01, 2022, 05:53:21 PM

Hi everyone! just wanted to thank all of ya's for trying to figure out what this plane is! I bought it 30 years ago at a hobby shop for 10 bucks ......Took it out Monday with Paul Taylor and it fly's like a brick! but it does fly!With Paul,s help i'm flying Control Line again after a 30+ year hiatus, and at 63, i'm having a BALL! Hope to get to know all of you better as time goes by! This is my first post!

Happy days are here. Glad you are too.