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Offline Dennis Leonhardi

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Off Topic - 17 Inches
« on: December 10, 2023, 04:14:29 AM »
Forgive me if this is completely out of place, but I'm incredibly moved by this message and need to be reminded every day - especially given our current society and "leadership" (?)

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Re: Off Topic - 17 Inches
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2023, 07:36:17 AM »
Dennis, thank you for posting this.  The message it conveys is one that cannot be expressed enough.  One of the greatest analogies I have ever read. 

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Re: Off Topic - 17 Inches
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2023, 08:15:35 AM »
Forgive me if this is completely out of place, but I'm incredibly moved by this message and need to be reminded every day - especially given our current society and "leadership" (?)

Dennis

Perhaps I am blind, but I see no "message" in what was posted. Could you please explain to this old man?
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Re: Off Topic - 17 Inches
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2023, 09:09:20 AM »
Bill,

Coach John Scolinos' message is so very meaningful and outlines the problems where society has bent the rules to make it easier and "fairer" for the lazy and weaker. This in unfortunate. The coach was from the Greatest Generation of which I have the highest regard for. My father who fought in WW2 set what I feel was probably the best example a son could ask for. He taught my family responsibility, discipline, integrity and honesty, he set a wonderful example as a father. I (we) for the most part here are from the Boomer Generation where society began bending the rules, corner cutting, turning our heads and in turn "letting it slide". The point is we are now in a quagmire of failure in most directions we look. Schools, churches and government has "turned their heads" to truth, decency and moral values. Yes the picture looks black as the coach said but remember we still have the greatest country ever. I truly believe all things come around as well...eventually. And I think it's up to us, the once removed generation to the Greatest to turn it around, there's not another with the wisdom to do so. Hopefully and I pray we end up with a country with the leadership my father instilled in me.

Steve

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Re: Off Topic - 17 Inches
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2023, 09:22:29 AM »
Easy to miss the little link, the second under the attached picture.

Good message and so terribly true in today's society. Generation after generation being taught to always look for someone ELSE to blame instead of accepting responsibility for their own actions. Sad.

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Re: Off Topic - 17 Inches
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2023, 11:22:56 AM »
Great message.  I'm a Jr High football coach.  I passed that on to our new head Varsity coach about a month ago, we're working to change the current culture.

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Re: Off Topic - 17 Inches
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2023, 11:38:39 AM »

 I can't open it.  :(
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Re: Off Topic - 17 Inches
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2023, 11:47:04 AM »
I can't open it.  :(

Wayne I will try and cut and paste it for you.

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Re: Off Topic - 17 Inches
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2023, 11:48:27 AM »
I can't open it.  :(

Twenty-seven years ago, in Nashville, Tennessee, during the first week of January 1996, more than 4,000 baseball coaches descended upon the Opryland Hotel for the 52nd annual ABCA's convention.

While I waited in line to register with the hotel staff, I heard other more veteran coaches rumbling about the lineup of speakers scheduled to present during the weekend.  One name kept resurfacing, always with the same sentiment - “John Scolinos is here?  Oh, man, worth every penny of my airfare.”

Who is John Scolinos, I wondered.  No matter; I was just happy to be there.

In 1996, Coach Scolinos was 78 years old, and five years retired from a college coaching career that began in 1948.  He shuffled to the stage to an impressive standing ovation, wearing dark polyester pants, a light blue shirt, and a string around his neck from which home plate hung - a full-sized, stark-white home plate.

Seriously, I wondered, who is this guy?  After speaking for twenty-five minutes, not once mentioning the prop hanging around his neck, Coach Scolinos appeared to notice the snickering among some of the coaches.  Even those who knew Coach Scolinos had to wonder exactly where he was going with this, or if he had simply forgotten about home plate since he’d gotten on stage.

Then, finally ... “You’re probably all wondering why I’m wearing home plate around my neck,” he said, his voice growing irascible.  I laughed along with the others, acknowledging the possibility.  “I may be old, but I’m not crazy.  The reason I stand before you today is to share with you baseball people what I’ve learned in my life, what I’ve learned about home plate in my 78 years.”
 
Several hands went up when Scolinos asked how many Little League coaches were in the room.  "Do you know how wide home plate is in Little League?”

After a pause, someone offered, “Seventeen inches?”, more of a question than answer.

“That’s right,” he said.  “How about in Babe Ruth’s day?  Any Babe Ruth coaches in the house?”  Another long pause.

“Seventeen inches?” a guess from another reluctant coach.

“That’s right,” said Scolinos.  “Now, how many high school coaches do we have in the room?”  Hundreds of hands shot up, as the pattern began to appear.  “How wide is home plate in high school baseball?”

“Seventeen inches,” they said, sounding more confident.

“You’re right!” Scolinos barked.  “And you college coaches, how wide is home plate in college?”

“Seventeen inches!” we said in unison.

“Any Minor League coaches here?  How wide is home plate in pro ball?” ... “Seventeen inches!”

“RIGHT!  And in the Major Leagues, how wide home plate is in the Major Leagues? “Seventeen inches!”

“SEV-EN-TEEN INCHES!” he confirmed, his voice bellowing off the walls.  “And what do they do with a Big-League pitcher who can’t throw the ball over seventeen inches?”

Pause.  “They send him to Pocatello !” he hollered, drawing raucous laughter.  “What they don’t do is this: they don’t say, ‘Ah, that’s okay, Jimmy.  If you can’t hit a seventeen-inch target?  We'll make it eighteen inches or nineteen inches.  We’ll make it twenty inches, so you have a better chance of hitting it.  If you can’t hit that, let us know so we can make it wider still, say twenty-five inches."
 
Pause.  “Coaches ... what do we do when your best player shows up late to practice?  Or when our team rules forbid facial hair, and a guy shows up unshaven?  What if he gets caught drinking?

Do we hold him accountable?  Or do we change the rules to fit him?  Do we widen home plate?"

The chuckles gradually faded as four thousand coaches grew quiet, the fog lifting as the old coach’s message began to unfold.  He turned the plate toward himself and, using a Sharpie, began to draw something.  When he turned it toward the crowd, point up, a house was revealed, complete with a freshly drawn door and two windows.

“This is the problem in our homes today.  With our marriages, with the way we parent our kids.  With our discipline.  We don’t teach accountability to our kids, and there is no consequence for failing to meet standards.  We just widen the plate!”

Pause.  Then, to the point at the top of the house he added a small American flag.  “This is the problem in our schools today.  The quality of our education is going downhill fast, and teachers have been stripped of the tools they need to be successful, and to educate and discipline our young people.  We are allowing others to widen home plate!  Where is that getting us?”

Silence.  He replaced the flag with a Cross.  “And this is the problem in the Church, where powerful people in positions of authority have taken advantage of young children, only to have such an atrocity swept under the rug for years.  Our church leaders are widening home plate for themselves!  And we allow it.”

“And the same is true with our government.  Our so-called representatives make rules for us that don’t apply to themselves.  They take bribes from lobbyists and foreign countries.  They no longer serve us.  And we allow them to widen home plate!  We see our country falling into a dark abyss while we just watch.”

I was amazed.  At a baseball convention where I expected to learn something about curve balls and bunting and how to run better practices, I had learned something far more valuable.
 
From an old man with home plate strung around his neck, I had learned something about life, about myself, about my own weaknesses and about my responsibilities as a leader.  I had to hold myself and others accountable to that which I knew to be right, lest our families, our faith, and our society continue down an undesirable path.

“If I am lucky,” Coach Scolinos concluded, “you will remember one thing from this old coach today.  It is this: "If we fail to hold ourselves to a higher standard, a standard of what we know to be right; if we fail to hold our spouses and our children to the same standards, if we are unwilling or unable to provide a consequence when they do not meet the standard; and if our schools & churches & our government fail to hold themselves accountable to those they serve, there is but one thing to look forward to ...”

With that, he held the home plate in front of his chest, turned it around, and revealed its dark black backside.  “We have dark days ahead!”

Note: Coach Scolinos died in 2009 at the age of 91, but not before touching the lives of hundreds of players and coaches, including mine.  Meeting him at my first ABCA convention kept me returning year after year, looking for similar wisdom and inspiration from other coaches.  He is the best clinic speaker the ABCA has ever known because he was so much more than a baseball coach.  His message was clear: “Coaches, keep your players - no matter how good they are - your own children, your churches, your government, and most of all, keep yourself at seventeen inches."

And this my friends is what our country has become and what is wrong with it today, now go out there and fix it!  "Don't widen the plate."

   - Jenny Burns



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Re: Off Topic - 17 Inches
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2023, 12:28:57 PM »
So Very True.

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Re: Off Topic - 17 Inches
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2023, 01:44:35 PM »
Great message.  I'm a Jr High football coach.  I passed that on to our new head Varsity coach about a month ago, we're working to change the current culture.

James
H^^ I hope it spreads.  Most of this is OUR generation's fault but some of the blame falls with our parents and grandparents.  They suffered two world wars and the great depression.  Defeating all three but for some reason they decided that our generation should not have to endure such hardship and spoiled us as much as possible.  My own father survived Normandy.  What were his first words when I told him I had been drafted?  "Don't worry, I play golf with the head of the draft board, we will get you out of it."  At the time I was ashamed, now I understand.  Every generation needs to be taught that freedom is worth passing on to your children and we cannot hide the cost of doing that from them or they will think it is their "right".  Even worse, they will think that freedom is what we have now.

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Re: Off Topic - 17 Inches
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2023, 01:47:26 PM »
I've read this many times. The message always stands tall.

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Re: Off Topic - 17 Inches
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2023, 03:44:18 PM »
Bill,

Coach John Scolinos' message is so very meaningful and outlines the problems where society has bent the rules to make it easier and "fairer" for the lazy and weaker. This in unfortunate. The coach was from the Greatest Generation of which I have the highest regard for. My father who fought in WW2 set what I feel was probably the best example a son could ask for. He taught my family responsibility, discipline, integrity and honesty, he set a wonderful example as a father. I (we) for the most part here are from the Boomer Generation where society began bending the rules, corner cutting, turning our heads and in turn "letting it slide". The point is we are now in a quagmire of failure in most directions we look. Schools, churches and government has "turned their heads" to truth, decency and moral values. Yes the picture looks black as the coach said but remember we still have the greatest country ever. I truly believe all things come around as well...eventually. And I think it's up to us, the once removed generation to the Greatest to turn it around, there's not another with the wisdom to do so. Hopefully and I pray we end up with a country with the leadership my father instilled in me.

Steve

Well Spoken Steve!  Did we have the same father!?!

My grandfather served in Europe in WWI following Pershing's Hunt for Poncho Villa, my father and countless uncles in WWII, and my son Dominick currently serves as a Marine - partly to honor that family tradition.  I wanted a career in the military but was rejected due to a heart defect (corrected by surgery at the age of 26).

I can assure you my sons learned the meaning of RESPONSIBILITY - in spades!  As it was taught to me.

The wokeness in our current military - among other institutions - absolutely frightens me.  If I have a heart attack and my son comes home to visit, he'll be charged with leave time and pay his own expenses - while a fellow serviceman/woman who wishes to travel to another state for an abortion or "gender change" will not be charged for time off and have their expenses paid.

"Contract marriages" are common - two guys "marry" (on paper) for the sole purpose of drawing higher benefits.  A pregnant woman might well be excused from duty entirely while my son works very long days.

Are we prepared to win a war?

As much as we can, let's all take responsibility to turn things around.  I believe it starts with education.

Dennis
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Re: Off Topic - 17 Inches
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2023, 04:13:18 PM »
H^^ I hope it spreads.  Most of this is OUR generation's fault but some of the blame falls with our parents and grandparents.  They suffered two world wars and the great depression.  Defeating all three but for some reason they decided that our generation should not have to endure such hardship and spoiled us as much as possible.  My own father survived Normandy.  What were his first words when I told him I had been drafted?  "Don't worry, I play golf with the head of the draft board, we will get you out of it."  At the time I was ashamed, now I understand.  Every generation needs to be taught that freedom is worth passing on to your children and we cannot hide the cost of doing that from them or they will think it is their "right".  Even worse, they will think that freedom is what we have now.

Ken

Wow, Ken - same generation, different fathers!

My sons often heard a message much like I heard - if you make a mistake, throw a baseball through someone's living room window, something else silly - we can work it out, just take responsibility.  But don't ever tell me you did something because everyone else was doing it, because you're not everybody else!

I was fortunate to wrestle in a high school state championship program, where our coach constantly warned us officials would be biased against us; our job was to defeat both our opponent and the official.

I was also fortunate to coach an Olympic-style wrestling team that produced several state and at least one national champion, and regularly told my wrestlers their goal should be to dominate so clearly that official's decisions would be clear.

My oldest son won numerous state championships, placed 6th or better in many prestigious national tournaments - including the Junior Olympics - and was invited to train at Colorado Springs.  An official called him pinned at a state tournament one year; it was a horrible call by any standard.  But, when he came to me looking for sympathy, I asked a simple question: "Were you on your back?"  I don't think he's forgiven me to this day, but the call wasn't my responsibility - it was his.

(How's that for spoiling my son, Ken?)

The end result: I couldn't be more proud of my sons.  A bonus is that they all have been greatly admired and respected by teachers, coaches, other parents and adults in the community, and their peers.

Dennis
« Last Edit: December 10, 2023, 08:12:47 PM by Dennis Leonhardi »
Think for yourself !  XXX might win the Nats, be an expert on designing, building, finishing, flying, tuning engines - but you might not wanna take tax advice from him.  Or consider his views on the climate to be fact ...


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