Prayers for Ukraine

[Ken Culbertson]

Dan, I have to agree.  Annexing Ukraine back into Mother Russia would be like California becoming part of the US again.

Ken

[Igor]

Hello! I'm asking in moderator - where I can organize the temporarily folder, Ukraine related  ?  Thank you! Igor Panchenko.

[M Spencer]

" In addition to prayers, Ukranians seem to need physical help. And I don't mean just for the fighting. The children, the elderly, etc. are in pretty bad situations. I've been told that money is the easiest and safest thing, through some usually reliable charities and NGOs. They can get what is needed to where it is needed. "

Pity , but UN site pratles on about charity , https://ukraine.un.org/en . Where it should be ' The Big stick ' .

According to the media , KURD relief in Iraq needed 10 billion dollars . Massive Fundrasing . Would Take TEN YEARS . The cost of ONE DAY of the war ! 

HENCE



I believe the one in Newzealand said  " We'll know the Polititions have got it right , when . . . .education is properly funded , and the Air Force has to hold a cake stall to buy another aeroplane ."

Now , If ONLY the FARMERs were allowed guns . . . but you couldnt then let them have to much beer .

Would be a change if the media stuck to the facts , without embelishment , fear mongering and hysetria inducement .
as most now seem to  consider to be their job . They tend to raak up the politions to idiocy .
GLOBALLY .

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[Brett Buck]

I believe the one in Newzealand said  " We'll know the Polititions have got it right , when . . . .our schools are properly funded , and the Air Foce has to hold a cake stall to buy another aeroplane .

     I would hope that the events of the last week demonstrate clearly that this notion is suicidally naive' hippy bullsh*t.

     There has been and always will be people like Putin around,  and we will always, forever, unalterably, need to be able to confront them. Always -  it is not optional, superior reason will not win out, and being weak will just embolden them. That doesn't mean we should go around picking fights, but it does mean that we will always need to means to oppose them on their terms. Always.

     Brett
         

[M Spencer]

Looks like theyre getting better at it . Western Society is Basically ordered thuggery . Sorry .

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domino theory, also called domino effect, theory adopted in U.S. foreign policy after World War II according to which the “fall” of a noncommunist state to communism would precipitate the fall of noncommunist governments in neighbouring states. The theory was first proposed by Pres. Harry S. Truman to justify sending military aid to Greece and Turkey in the 1940s, but it became popular in the 1950s when Pres. Dwight D. Eisenhower applied it to Southeast Asia, especially South Vietnam. The domino theory was one of the main arguments used in the Kennedy and Johnson administrations during the 1960s to justify increasing American military involvement in the Vietnam War.

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confederation, primarily any league or union of people or bodies of people. The term in modern political use is generally confined to a permanent union of sovereign states for certain common purposes—e.g., the German Confederation established by the Congress of Vienna in 1815.

The distinction between confederation and federation—words synonymous in their origin—has been developed in the political terminology of the United States. Until 1789 the U.S. was a confederation; then the word federation, or federal republic, was introduced as implying closer union. This distinction was emphasized during the American Civil War when the seceding states formed a confederation (Confederate States of America) in opposition to the Federal Union. Confederation thus came to mean a union of sovereign states in which the stress is laid on the autonomy of each constituent body, while federation implies a union of states in which the stress is laid on the supremacy of the common government. The distinction is, however, by no means universally observed. The variant confederacy, derived through the Anglo-French confederacie and meaning generally a league or union, whether of states or individuals, was applied in America in the sense of confederation to the seceding Southern states. In its political sense confederacy has generally come to mean rather a temporary league of independent states for certain purposes.

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balance of power, in international relations, the posture and policy of a nation or group of nations protecting itself against another nation or group of nations by matching its power against the power of the other side. States can pursue a policy of balance of power in two ways: by increasing their own power, as when engaging in an armaments race or in the competitive acquisition of territory; or by adding to their own power that of other states, as when embarking upon a policy of alliances.

The term balance of power came into use to denote the power relationships in the European state system from the end of the Napoleonic Wars to World War I. Within the European balance of power, Great Britain played the role of the “balancer,” or “holder of the balance.” It was not permanently identified with the policies of any European nation, and it would throw its weight at one time on one side, at another time on another side, guided largely by one consideration—the maintenance of the balance itself. Naval supremacy and its virtual immunity from foreign invasion enabled Great Britain to perform this function, which made the European balance of power both flexible and stable.


The balance of power from the early 20th century onward underwent drastic changes that for all practical purposes destroyed the European power structure as it had existed since the end of the Middle Ages. Prior to the 20th century, the political world was composed of a number of separate and independent balance-of-power systems, such as the European, the American, the Chinese, and the Indian. But World War I and its attendant political alignments triggered a process that eventually culminated in the integration of most of the world’s nations into a single balance-of-power system. This integration began with the World War I alliance of Britain, France, Russia, and the United States against Germany and Austria-Hungary. The integration continued in World War II, during which the fascist nations of Germany, Japan, and Italy were opposed by a global alliance of the Soviet Union, the United States, Britain, and China. World War II ended with the major weights in the balance of power having shifted from the traditional players in western and central Europe to just two non-European ones: the United States and the Soviet Union. The result was a bipolar balance of power across the northern half of the globe that pitted the free-market democracies of the West against the communist one-party states of eastern Europe. More specifically, the nations of western Europe sided with the United States in the NATO military alliance, while the Soviet Union’s satellite-allies in central and eastern Europe became unified under Soviet leadership in the Warsaw Pact.

Because the balance of power was now bipolar and because of the great disparity of power between the two superpowers and all other nations, the European countries lost that freedom of movement that previously had made for a flexible system. Instead of a series of shifting and basically unpredictable alliances with and against each other, the nations of Europe now clustered around the two superpowers and tended to transform themselves into two stable blocs.

There were other decisive differences between the postwar balance of power and its predecessor. The fear of mutual destruction in a global nuclear holocaust injected into the foreign policies of the United States and the Soviet Union a marked element of restraint. A direct military confrontation between the two superpowers and their allies on European soil was an almost-certain gateway to nuclear war and was therefore to be avoided at almost any cost. So instead, direct confrontation was largely replaced by (1) a massive arms race whose lethal products were never used and (2) political meddling or limited military interventions by the superpowers in various Third World nations.

[Dennis Leonhardi]

     I would hope that the events of the last week demonstrate clearly that this notion is suicidally naive' hippy bullsh*t.

     There has been and always will be people like Putin around,  and we will always, forever, unalterably, need to be able to confront them. Always -  it is not optional, superior reason will not win out, and being weak will just embolden them. That doesn't mean we should go around picking fights, but it does mean that we will always need to means to oppose them on their terms. Always.

     Brett
       

   ALWAYS!!!  Anything else is "suicidally naive hippy bullsh*t" - and a GOOD education would have taught you that!

[Ken Culbertson]

I just watched the State of the Union.  I pray for Ukraine; we have truly abandoned them.  I don't think even Jimmy Carter could manage to abandon two countries in one year.  Didn't we urge Ukraine to give up it's nukes by pledging to defend it's borders? 

Ken

[Brett Buck]

I just watched the State of the Union.  I pray for Ukraine; we have truly abandoned them.  I don't think even Jimmy Carter could manage to abandon two countries in one year.  Didn't we urge Ukraine to give up it's nukes by pledging to defend it's borders? 

  Not to defend Biden, but what exactly is there to do in this situation? One common theme from the last 25 years is us pulling out resources from Europe, regardless of the administration. Even at the best of times in the 60's, a full-scale Soviet attack would have almost immediately led to using nuclear weapons because we couldn't afford to maintain a sufficient conventional army to repel it. It's even more like that now - our presence is nearly zero.

     Trump warned all the European countries that they needed to learn to defend themselves (and pay for it), because we weren't going to do it any more. Using iron-clad logic - "orange man bad" - they ignored him and then made a bunch of energy deals with Russia. This is an ugly wake-up call, they (and the Ukrainian people) are paying for this bad decision.

    To their credit, some of the EU leaders, like  the enviro-hippy Green Party German Chancellor, have done a 180, and are both massively raising defense spending, maybe instating conscription, and even talking about keeping reactors on-line to make up for the lost Russian natural gas supply.

  This is the inevitable result of lack of urgency, preparedness, and vision for 30 years now. Same sort of complacency and wishful thinking that led to World War II. If we had had the resources in place, this attack would never have happened in the first place. But without that, Biden's hands are tied.  There's only one real option to stop this in the current circumstances. It is a terrible tragedy as it is, but it could get a lot worse.

    Brett
   

[Ken Culbertson]

Trump warned all the European countries that they needed to learn to defend themselves (and pay for it), because we weren't going to do it any more. Using iron-clad logic - "orange man bad" - they ignored him and then made a bunch of energy deals with Russia. This is an ugly wake-up call, they (and the Ukrainian people) are paying for this bad decision.

    To their credit, some of the EU leaders, like  the enviro-hippy Green Party German Chancellor, have done a 180, and are both massively raising defense spending, maybe instating conscription, and even talking about keeping reactors on-line to make up for the lost Russian natural gas supply.

This is the inevitable result of lack of urgency, preparedness, and vision for 30 years now. Same sort of complacency and wishful thinking that led to World War II. If we had had the resources in place, this attack would never have happened in the first place. But without that, Biden's hands are tied.  There's only one real option to stop this in the current circumstances. It is a terrible tragedy as it is, but it could get a lot worse.

    Brett
   

His hands are not fully tied, and I am glad you noted that he tied them himself.  Changing our energy policy and not blocking some of the aid going to Ukraine might help.  I am referring to the Mig-29's that were pledged.  Ukraine had been begging for months for more arms to defend itself.  Is there anything that can be done right now?  Probably not but could anything have been done once we came to the conclusion that an invasion was going to happen - absolutely.   Here is a thought, invade Belarus and threaten to use nukes if Putin tries to stop us.  How about massive aid to Tiawan?  Maybe it is just a message but it is one to the true bully.   Russia invested heavily in building a military,  but he does not have an economy large enough to support using it over time.  He needs revenue yet that is the one thing we are not cutting off.  When in your life have you ever stopped a bully by giving him what he wants?  Biden is controlled by the greens and they appear to be heavily funded by Russian oil interests.

I have zero faith that he will call Putin's bluff and it is three years till we will have a President again.  The cat is away, and the mice are playing.  So maybe there is little we can do to save Ukraine for now other than learn where our mindless foreign policy of the last year has taken us.  Maybe "Orange Man Good" might work.  We are in a world where the ability to take us into another dark ages is in the hands of two crazy, although different types of crazy, leaders.  Does China's apparent buddying up to Putin make sense now.  They are using him to weaken Russia and the US.  A true bully never fights his own fights, he uses others.

Sorry Brett, you are right about the current situation but where we go from here really needs analysis. 

Ken

[Mike Griffin]

https://rumble.com/vw04tl-mark-levin-takes-on-cpac-2022-full-appearance.html

If this link works, listen to what Mark Levin says about the situation.

Mike

[Igor]

Hello! Igor Panchenko.CA. I'm asking moderator, If I can organize some temporarily folder, for Ukrainian info related? Any suggestions?
I've helped to make some progress in Defense segment and some Science segment too - for USA. Now is very difficult time for my relatives and people in Ukraine, they need your help?

https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1384130588056068099?s=20

find your representative by Zip code. Ask to cover the sky above Ukraine, humanitarian help needed , Block the Russian military ships in Black Sea?

https://www.house.gov/representatives
do some other things :
Remove Russian propaganda from cable
https://chng.it/vD99y2N6mM
Public advocacy challenge from the UNWLA:
https://unwla.org/news/the-7-day-public-advocacy-challenge/

The Russia-Ukraine War Background and History of the Country
http://The Russia-Ukraine crisis
this video explains : why Ukraine is different than Russia.

[Igor]

Sergii was on facebook earlier today. He is safe for now, but like the others , very concerned.

Hello! Igor Panchenko.CA. I'm asking moderator, If I can organize some temporarily folder, for Ukrainian info related? Any suggestions?
I've helped to make some progress in Defense segment and some Science segment too - for USA. Now is very difficult time for my relatives and people in Ukraine, they need your help?

https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1384130588056068099?s=20

find your representative by Zip code. Ask to cover the sky above Ukraine, humanitarian help needed , Block the Russian military ships in Black Sea?

https://www.house.gov/representatives
do some other things :
Remove Russian propaganda from cable
https://chng.it/vD99y2N6mM
Public advocacy challenge from the UNWLA:
https://unwla.org/news/the-7-day-public-advocacy-challenge/

The Russia-Ukraine War Background and History of the Country
http://The Russia-Ukraine crisis
this video explains : why Ukraine is different than Russia.

[Igor]

  Not to defend Biden, but what exactly is there to do in this situation? One common theme from the last 25 years is us pulling out resources from Europe, regardless of the administration. Even at the best of times in the 60's, a full-scale Soviet attack would have almost immediately led to using nuclear weapons because we couldn't afford to maintain a sufficient conventional army to repel it. It's even more like that now - our presence is nearly zero.

     Trump warned all the European countries that they needed to learn to defend themselves (and pay for it), because we weren't going to do it any more. Using iron-clad logic - "orange man bad" - they ignored him and then made a bunch of energy deals with Russia. This is an ugly wake-up call, they (and the Ukrainian people) are paying for this bad decision.

    To their credit, some of the EU leaders, like  the enviro-hippy Green Party German Chancellor, have done a 180, and are both massively raising defense spending, maybe instating conscription, and even talking about keeping reactors on-line to make up for the lost Russian natural gas supply.

  This is the inevitable result of lack of urgency, preparedness, and vision for 30 years now. Same sort of complacency and wishful thinking that led to World War II. If we had had the resources in place, this attack would never have happened in the first place. But without that, Biden's hands are tied.  There's only one real option to stop this in the current circumstances. It is a terrible tragedy as it is, but it could get a lot worse.

    Brett
   

Hello! Igor Panchenko.CA. I'm asking moderator, If I can organize some temporarily folder, for Ukrainian info related? Any suggestions?
I've helped to make some progress in Defense segment and some Science segment too - for USA. Now is very difficult time for my relatives and people in Ukraine, they need your help?

https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1384130588056068099?s=20

find your representative by Zip code. Ask to cover the sky above Ukraine, humanitarian help needed , Block the Russian military ships in Black Sea?

https://www.house.gov/representatives
do some other things :
Remove Russian propaganda from cable
https://chng.it/vD99y2N6mM
Public advocacy challenge from the UNWLA:
https://unwla.org/news/the-7-day-public-advocacy-challenge/

The Russia-Ukraine War Background and History of the Country
http://The Russia-Ukraine crisis
this video explains : why Ukraine is different than Russia.

[Howard Rush]

Hello! Igor Panchenko.CA. I'm asking moderator, If I can organize some temporarily folder, for Ukrainian info related? Any suggestions?
I've helped to make some progress in Defense segment and some Science segment too - for USA.

And for Earth.  Igor’s helicopter just made its twentieth flight on Mars.

[RC Storick]

Hello! I'm asking in moderator - where I can organize the temporarily folder, Ukraine related  ?  Thank you! Igor Panchenko.

Send me a PM in exactly what you're asking for

[Igor]

And for Earth.  Igor’s helicopter just made its twentieth flight on Mars.

Howard, the Ingenuity is not my one. I proud that, I made some thing for that project and made some parts for it, and developed some process to do those.JPL used AV as contractor with the help, in developing and make the Rotorcraft.  Yes, my DNA Among other people - who made this success, are on the Mars Planet. I can supply some more links pictures videos . It is hard to locate in the forum with volume of data restriction in the Website . Send email to me? Igor

[Skip Chernoff]

So sad,prayers for our Ukrainian friends.

[M Spencer]

Indeed . The children must be wondering how far you can trust these ' grown ups '

https://kyivindependent.com/

Seems to be about the only ' on the level ' reports from out there . Unfortunately regard the rest as more ' hysterical ' rather than informative .