Author Topic: New Build (Read 10839 times)

Bill Gruby · « **on:** June 07, 2007, 08:14:33 PM »

Never tried to post pictures of a new build before. The "Ringmaster 1000" is being built. I don't build fast like others, I just pick away till it's done. I'm in no rush. This is where it is at right now.

"Billy G"

steve pagano · « **Reply #1 on:** June 07, 2007, 08:18:55 PM »

Lookin good G-man. Cant wait to see the fuse for that puppy!!

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #2 on:** June 07, 2007, 08:22:33 PM »

Steve, here it is still jigged up. The LE and TE are not solid they are built up construction.

steve pagano · « **Reply #3 on:** June 07, 2007, 08:38:09 PM »

Bill, What size bell crank are you using?

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #4 on:** June 07, 2007, 11:34:06 PM »

Steve;

We had a drop in control system made for us by "Jim Snelson" at C/L Central. It consists of a BCA-4 3/16 X 4" Bellcrank (Phenolic). The pushrod is 3/16 Carbon Fiber with a "Ball Link" at the Bell Crank, and "Ringmaster" type bent wire at the horn. Lead Outs are .036 Cable. Some of it may seem small, like the Push Rod, but believe me, it won't flex.

This"Big Boy" also sports a home made set of adjustable leadouts, made by myself.

Tom, don't say it, after that flood we had nothing is where it is supposed to be. I am still looking.

"Billy G"

Roger Vizioli · « **Reply #5 on:** June 08, 2007, 06:23:26 AM »

Bill,
Lookin' Good!
Buildin' slow?
You can always set up a table under a tree at Brodak's and build when not flying!
see you there.
Roger

john e. holliday · « **Reply #6 on:** June 08, 2007, 06:43:05 AM »

Bill the plane looks great so far. I am anxious to see the final result. Later, DOC Holliday

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #7 on:** June 08, 2007, 07:52:10 AM »

Thanks everyone;

Good news, just got back from the Post Office. We weighed it at all 5 stations and they were all the same. It is definately not overweight. The wing comes in at:

18.37 ozs.

"Billy G"

Bill Morell · « **Reply #8 on:** June 08, 2007, 12:34:40 PM »

Looks great Bill. Your jig looks similar to what I use for rods. I brought the post back so you could check it out if you want to.

Bill Little · « **Reply #9 on:** June 08, 2007, 12:39:57 PM »

Both you "Bills" are making this Bill felt embarassed! Looks like I will have to finally break down and make a jig for my rods/tubes, too. So far I have just used a temporary set up made each time I used them.

Y'alls both look great!

While I would rather build in a Lost Foam set up, there are laser ribs that require the rods, so I do use them every now and then. That is, when I ain't building an I-Beam plane! LOL!!

The third Bill <><

Paul Taylor · « **Reply #10 on:** June 08, 2007, 05:01:44 PM »

Looking good G-Man.

See ya in a few days.

Paul

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #11 on:** June 09, 2007, 04:17:27 PM »

You betcha Paul.

One of these "Bad Boys" is gonna power that "Ringmaster 1000". The "Red Head" is a Fox .78 Dual Plug--circa 1971. The other is also a Fox .78 Single Plug-- circa 1981. The 1981 is already changed to C/L. the "Red Head" is waiting for her venturi. That is the only modification that needs to be done to these "Big Blocks" to change them over. Yes the engine in the center back is a Fox .59 2-Speed. The one in the back on the left is a Fox .40 Rat Race. The extreme right back is a 1958 Fox .15 "Steel Fin"

Steve Helmick · « **Reply #12 on:** June 09, 2007, 04:36:31 PM »

Billy-G...how much does the CL Fox .78 weigh? I was thinking that shortening the stroke to get it under .76 cu.in. limit for .018's might make it a bargain big block. It would be pretty easy to do, by cutting off the stock crank pin and poking a hole for a new pressed-in crank pin. A dowel pin should do.

Keep the weight down on that Mega Ringmaster, or it'll pull your arm off!

Steve

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #13 on:** June 09, 2007, 04:52:01 PM »

Steve;

Fox .78 Specs:

Bore 1.00 in.
Stroke 1.00 in.
Disp. .785
Rpm 12,500 w/12-6 prop
Weight 18 ozs.

The "Ringmaster 1000" all up weight is now targeted at 60-65 ozs. Should be no worse than a .60 powered ship.

"Billy G"

Bill Little · « **Reply #14 on:** June 09, 2007, 05:02:24 PM »

At 60-65 ounces, you should give it to Champione Lampione. It's a good 20 oz. lighter than his presentday United!

(really!)

Leo Mehl · « **Reply #15 on:** June 09, 2007, 05:53:44 PM »

GAD"S who Schrunk the GRUBY. Like the cute little shorts too.

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #16 on:** June 10, 2007, 06:01:52 AM »

Quote from: Steve Helmick on June 09, 2007, 04:36:31 PM

Billy-G...how much does the CL Fox .78 weigh? I was thinking that shortening the stroke to get it under .76 cu.in. limit for .018's might make it a bargain big block. It would be pretty easy to do, by cutting off the stock crank pin and poking a hole for a new pressed-in crank pin. A dowel pin should do.

Keep the weight down on that Mega Ringmaster, or it'll pull your arm off! Steve

You are probably aware of this buuuuuuut if you decide to destroke one of these"Bad Boys" make absolutely sure there are big enough oil holes in the connecting rod. I would suggest two 45* apart. Make them bigger if you are unsure. Also I have been told that some of the .78's had needle bearings in the lower end of the connecting rod. If this is true ( don't quote me here) you will need a new rod to work with. Please let me know what the results are if you try to pull this off. I don't like going to .021 lines either, although I don't think there will be any real noticeable "Drag" problems.

"Billy G"

wwwarbird · « **Reply #17 on:** June 10, 2007, 02:43:18 PM »

Way cool-built up fuse I hope.

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #18 on:** June 10, 2007, 03:10:32 PM »

Wayne;

WOW---Long time my friend. Welcome back. Yes and no, the parts that are built up are: Wing, Stab., Elevator, Fuselage, Leading Edge and Trailing edge. By built up Fuselage I mean it is a built up "Profile". A full bodied "Super Ringmaster" is not out of the question at a later time.

"Billy G"

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #19 on:** June 11, 2007, 03:57:18 AM »

Hey--"Shultzie" and everyone else;

This one is really "Puuuurty"

Bob Disharoon · « **Reply #20 on:** June 11, 2007, 06:11:15 AM »

Hey BG, when you waltze into the post office with that thing, do the employees hide?

...HD

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #21 on:** June 11, 2007, 09:16:48 AM »

HD;

Nope, no digruntiled postal workers here.

Here is a couple more to gawk at.

"Billy G"

Shultzie · « **Reply #22 on:** June 11, 2007, 09:47:22 AM »

Quote from: Bill Gruby on June 11, 2007, 03:57:18 AM

Hey--"Shultzie" and everyone else;

This one is really "Puuuurty"

Thanks "G" MAN....That is an AWWWSOME PHOTO...and knowing for certain that "BEAUTY IS IN THE EYE-BALLS OF THE BE-HOLDER!"

Check out another beauty that resides in Billy's backyard?

Pure and simple! "GARDEN ART!" AT IT FINEST!

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #23 on:** June 11, 2007, 10:11:32 AM »

"Shultzie"

That ain't garden art-----Ford 460 cu. in. Stump Puller, That baby has a "Granny Gear" that will break your back.

"Billy G"

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #24 on:** June 12, 2007, 03:51:45 PM »

OK Everyone;

Here is what she looks like so far:

"Billy G"

Shultzie · « **Reply #25 on:** June 12, 2007, 04:10:59 PM »

GREAT SHOT..."G"MAN! GADS! I LOVE THAT DETERMINED INTENSE IMPASSIONED LOOK ON YOUR FACE! PURE CREATIVE JUICES...FLOWIN DOWN....LIKE A RIVA' OHHH BLESSSUM YOUR SOUL!!!

YOU ARE TRULY A BLESSED BROTHER MEMBER AND "LORD OF THE RINGS!"

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #26 on:** June 12, 2007, 04:27:44 PM »

"Shultzie"

This day of buildin started at 7:00 AM, with all the interruptions and errands to run it did not end till 5:30 PM. After looking at all the pictures I took, it was worth it. TOOOOOOOOOOO tired to smile.

"Billy G"

Leo Mehl · « **Reply #27 on:** June 12, 2007, 05:25:58 PM »

Nice job Billy, It definatly looks like a ringmaster. It also does not look that big after it is put togather. I suspect you will need a few lead wieghts in your pocket to fly this. I can't fly it because the leadouts are coming out the wrong side an I asume this is because you don't want me to test fly this thang. I wish I could be there for first flights. Leo

Paul Taylor · « **Reply #28 on:** June 13, 2007, 04:49:18 AM »

Nice looking RM 1000 Billy G.

See ya soon.

Paul

steve pagano · « **Reply #29 on:** June 14, 2007, 02:37:17 PM »

G-man it's lookin awsome. Great woodwork on the fuse!!!! How about a 90 sized Fancey Pants next?

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #30 on:** June 14, 2007, 05:44:41 PM »

Steve;

I'll give it some thought but this engine is as big as I can handle at the moment.

I'm really gonna hate to bury those motor mounts where they can't be seen, in the fuselage.

john e. holliday · « **Reply #31 on:** June 15, 2007, 06:23:34 AM »

Quote from: Leo Mehl on June 12, 2007, 05:25:58 PM

Nice job Billy, It definatly looks like a ringmaster. It also does not look that big after it is put togather. I suspect you will need a few lead wieghts in your pocket to fly this. I can't fly it because the leadouts are coming out the wrong side an I asume this is because you don't want me to test fly this thang. I wish I could be there for first flights. Leo

Hey Leo, a little secret, just have him launch it inverted. Watch Lew Woolard(aka Silverfox) fly sometime. Even tho the the plane is upright, the handle is backward to me. Have fun, DOC Holliday

Keith Spriggs · « **Reply #32 on:** June 17, 2007, 08:17:01 AM »

Bill, I am in awe at your creation. Great workmanship (no surprise). I hope you can get someone to video the maiden voyage and put it on U-Tube or somewhere. If I can hear your knees knocking over the roar of the engine I promise not to say anything.

Keith

Leo Mehl · « **Reply #33 on:** June 17, 2007, 06:19:47 PM »

I'm taken bets it flies perfect the first time. I got confidence in this old friend of mine. I think he is already focused. Pretty soon he will be in the zone-twilight that is!

Bob Disharoon · « **Reply #34 on:** June 18, 2007, 05:01:48 AM »

Hes gonna be so excited at thefirst flight, Im sending him a box of DEPENDS

john e. holliday · « **Reply #35 on:** June 19, 2007, 11:06:56 AM »

Hey Bob, you will be there soon enough. Sure is handy when on crossing duty and no bushes close. Have fun, DOC Holliday

Bob Disharoon · « **Reply #36 on:** June 19, 2007, 03:48:33 PM »

I know , John..but I have a long time to go to catch up with ole BG...3 years..LOL....BTW, If I ever get a chance to see it fly in person, your truly is gonna need one!!....take care, Bob

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #37 on:** June 20, 2007, 03:23:51 PM »

HD;
Thanks for the thought but I don't think I will need them, got anything to put on weight in a hurry? Landing gear and finish sanding to final shape. Assemble and cover. And finally on to the paint finish, looks like about two more weeks and it takes to the air.

"Billy G"

Warren Leadbeatter · « **Reply #38 on:** June 20, 2007, 06:00:34 PM »

Bill,

Have you worked out a color scheme yet? What are you going to cover it with? Looking good by the way.

Cheers

john e. holliday · « **Reply #39 on:** June 21, 2007, 08:24:56 AM »

Bill, are you going to replicate the original color scheme? Have fun, DOC Holliday

steve pagano · « **Reply #40 on:** June 21, 2007, 12:48:14 PM »

Simply AMAZIN!

G-man What size tank do you need for an engine that size??

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #41 on:** June 21, 2007, 12:58:18 PM »

Steve;
I have been using an 8 oz. Hayes Clunk to break it in. It swallows that 8 ozs. in 7.6 minutes. Soooooo you want to fly the pattern you will need at least 8.5 ozs. It won't be economical to say the least. Now its big sister, which hasn't been put on paper yet is a whole new "Ball Game". Don't ask.

"Billy G"

steve pagano · « **Reply #42 on:** June 21, 2007, 02:09:02 PM »

Bill;

Big sister?!?!?! Well i guess if you have a few extra lawn mower engines hangin around and flying lines that are strong enough to be used as suspension cables on the Brooklyn bridge!

Why not!

G-man i must say with every build you keep me on the edge of my seat! Keep up the good work.

Bob Disharoon · « **Reply #43 on:** June 21, 2007, 05:56:51 PM »

Big Sister.."dont ask".....here we go again.....if it works out better than the "little brother", we are all in for another "Biily G" airplane ride of mythical proportions....I envision a TV show in the future similair to Orange County Choppers...I think some one needs to crank up a name for it..any suggestions?

steve pagano · « **Reply #44 on:** June 21, 2007, 09:21:15 PM »

How about ''G-MAN lord of the ring.......masters that is!

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #45 on:** June 21, 2007, 11:10:10 PM »

WHOA PEOPLE;

Let's back off for a second here. Steve, I am flattered by that title, but must respectfully decline. That title goes to none other than "Dee Rice" of "Oriental" fame, aka "The Grandmaster Of The Ring". Or to "Dave Gresens", "Bob Lipscome" and "Mike Finnigan". Please I'm just a loyal follower of the "Brotherhood"
Yes, I have created a large "Ringmaster 1000", but that is all. There will be two more "Ringmaster" offshoots built by me before the next "Ringmaster Round-Up",one larger,and one the same size. One is a twin, the other let's just say will be awesome. This is my only claim to fame in the "Brotherhood". I am not worthy of any title such as you are suggesting. Again Thank-You for the thought. Stay tuned this ride ain't over yet.

"Billy G"

john e. holliday · « **Reply #46 on:** June 22, 2007, 06:09:20 AM »

Quote from: Bill Gruby on June 21, 2007, 12:58:18 PM

Steve;
I have been using an 8 oz. Hayes Clunk to break it in. It swallows that 8 ozs. in 7.6 minutes. Soooooo you want to fly the pattern you will need at least 8.5 ozs. It won't be economical to say the least. Now its big sister, which hasn't been put on paper yet is a whole new "Ball Game". Don't ask.

"Billy G"

Hey Bill, that 7.6 minutes is pushing the pattern a bit, isn't it? The book says 8 minutes max from the time you signal until the plane comes to a stop. I have timed many a pattern with about 10 laps extra coming out on an average for me at 6 minutes, give ar take a few seconds. Well anyway with something that big I guess I would allow you 10 minutes. Have fun, DOC Holliday

Paul Taylor · « **Reply #47 on:** June 22, 2007, 06:59:50 AM »

Billy
All I can say is be ready to hang on. We got to watch Dan fly his big streak. In the wingovers it would lift him up on his toes.
Paul

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #48 on:** June 22, 2007, 09:13:15 AM »

OK Guys;

A few more, she is standing alone now. Needs the tail wheel and sand and sand and sand and ----------- you know the drill. Silk is on the way. It won't be long now.

Bill Little · « **Reply #49 on:** June 22, 2007, 03:59:34 PM »

Hi G-Man,

For time, if you are flying the pattern, you are fine with the 8 oz. tank. Like Doc, I don't like to go much over 6:30 stop watch time, and that's from the hand signal. I got a funny feeling that we *might* get a rules proposal in the not too distant future to adopt the FAI 7 min. max time from signal to wheels stopping. I would be for it!