On one of the posts it is mentioned that tongue mufflers are not that quiet. To the pilot in the middle of the circle they might be a decibal or two noiser. As old age is creeping up on me I notice that by the time I get to the handle I can barely hear my Fox .35 Stunt or even the LA .25 or .46 with tongue mufflers. Even quieter with stock mufflers. But, when the muffler came off the OS .35 on my Jerkline Special, what a racket. It was a stock tube muffler. Swiped the tongue muffler off another plane I had at the field and put a tongue muffler on. On top of the plane while starting I could hear no difference. But in the middle of the circle there was a slight difference. By the way didn't check center of gravity. What a wild flight I had. Took it home to find a tube muffler to put back on the plane. By the way planes do get a lot of attention when mufflers fall off or come apart, like my Fox muffler did in Wichita this year.