Moving Up from Profile

[Phil Coopy]

If you were moving up from a .40 size profile (in my case Fancherized Twisters) to a full fuselage .40 size stunter, what would your choice be?

Phil

[Leo Mehl]

If you were moving up from a .40 size profile (in my case Fancherized Twisters) to a full fuselage .40 size stunter, what would your choice be?

Phil

Green box Nobler.

[Andrew Hathaway]

Oriental.  Simply constructed fuselage that still looks good when finished.

[Leester]

If you like your Twister Allen Brickhaus designed the Tornado, which is a full fusalaged Twister. Flying Models plans CF-869

[Mark Scarborough]

 A Vector, or an Oriental, depending on the intended use, if competition, then perhaps the Oriental may win the day as it is a multi class bird, but The vector has more modern numbers. Both fly well.

[frank carlisle]

It won't matter much which plane you pick as long as you have a proper engine for it. I think that the cowling will present your largest challenge. Try to get some help with that and you'll be fine.

[Crist Rigotti]

Definately a Legacy 40.

[Ward Van Duzer]

Phil,

My thought for you would be to get your feet wet with a Vector ARF. It's a far better plane than the Twister, Noblers et al and it will guide you familiar around the inverted, cowled engine routine. Make sure you get a straight one!

ward-O.

[Patrick Rowan]

You should think about building a Vector 40 (Brodak Kit). Power it with a  LA 46. Makes a great combination.

I have a Vector 40 ARF LA 46 powered. Flys alot like my big Katanas.

A kit built Vector would last alot longer (years) than an ARF.

[Wayne J. Buran]

I agree with Pat, but I think another great option is a kit built Oriental and a Brodak 40. Two classes for a very nice flying and good looking airplane.
Wayne

[James Mills]

If you were moving up from a .40 size profile (in my case Fancherized Twisters) to a full fuselage .40 size stunter, what would your choice be?

Phil

My first .40 size full fuse was Allen Brickhaus Buccaneer 740 (was very good in the wind).  I would recommend any of Allen's designs.

I also have a Shaffer Hallmark, only one flight so far but seems good with a Magnum 36.

James

[Warren Wagner]

If you were moving up from a .40 size profile (in my case Fancherized Twisters) to a full fuselage .40 size stunter, what would your choice be?

Phil

Hi Phil,

My suggestion for a first, full fuselage stunter would be an "Oriental".   The Brodak "Oriental" kit was my first attempt at building one. 

All of the above mentioned planes would be very good fliers, but the "Oriental" would be my recommendation for the following reasons:

1)  It has a constant chord wing, which makes it easier to build a wing straight, flat on a building board, or with a jig of course.

2)  The tail surfaces are all sheet material, which is quick to build and repair, and any warps are easy to spot and correct.

3)  The simplified cowling does not include the cylinder head, so that would make life easier for you.

4)  The Brodak kit, and there may be others that I'm not familiar with, is very well done, complete with all hardware, and has an excellent instruction manual with liberal supporting photographs which would be especially helpful for one building a full fuselage model for the first time.

5)  The removable cowling also covers the tank area, so the tank is removable without removing the engine.

There are probably other reasons, but that is enough to get you thinking.

I have no connection with Brodak Manufacturing other than I appreciate what they have done for the hobby, and I like spending money.

Cheers,

Warren Wagner

[Alan Buck]

Phil.  My vote is for a VECTOR kit or arc. use your la40 or 46 keep the weight around 46ozs it is good to go.  I'm very happy wth mine. ALAN

[Bob Zambelli]

Phil - I don't know if there's a kit out but the Cardinal Evolution, which is just a Cardinal downsized for a .40, is one fine airplane.

I took it and dowwnsized it even more, for a .25, and it's a fine flyer.

VERY easy to build.

Bob Z.

[Brett Buck]

If you were moving up from a .40 size profile (in my case Fancherized Twisters) to a full fuselage .40 size stunter, what would your choice be?

   Assuming you mean a "conventional" 35-40 sized airplane - as opposed to a piped 40-60 airplane - I think the Vector 40 is by far the best I have seen. It's rather smaller and works with very moderate power. Even a Fox 35 would make a pretty nice airplane. Brodak makes a kit, and I'm sure Randy has plans if you want to scratch-build. The ARF is probably the one of the best of the ARFs with all the usual caveats. I can't think of any better choice, although there are a lot of pretty decent alternatives.

   If you mean a pipe 40-60 plane, there are a lot of good choices, but two of the best are the Impact (UHP kit or FM plans) or Trivial Pursuit (RSM kit or PAMPA Products plans). These are a big step up from a Twister in terms of construction and power - a lot more work and a lot more power required. They will both fly just fine with a piped 40 - the Impact won 5 NATs that way, and proved to be unbeatable -  to the point of almost intimidating people who aren't easily intimidated.

    Brett

   

[Phil Coopy]

Jury is in.......ordered a Vector 40 kit yesterday.  Especially after seeing how Alan Buck's looked in the wind at KOI  Sunday, that's not to take away from his skill, which I am sure was a major factor. Thanks for all the good advice folks.

Phil