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monokote?
« on: November 16, 2020, 01:09:32 PM »
Is monokote still being made? 

Yes i use Ultrakote too, but looking for monokote for an RC gilder project.

Ultrakote tend to creep for me when it shrinks.   


 
 
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Re: monokote?
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2020, 01:43:42 PM »
The old Monokote is gone. The new isn't very good. I've found that Ultrakote needs a lot of heat to make it stick. Use Ultrakote for best results.
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Re: monokote?
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2020, 01:46:47 PM »
Monokote is in fact still being produced. There's a local hobby shop here in Vegas that carries some. But even if I need to order it, I have them do it for me. Free shipping that way. Especially handy when I only need one roll.

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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2020, 04:26:41 PM »
What color do you want?
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Re: monokote?
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2020, 05:00:21 PM »
Monokote is in fact still being produced. There's a local hobby shop here in Vegas that carries some. But even if I need to order it, I have them do it for me. Free shipping that way. Especially handy when I only need one roll.

   At least the type Jim and I tried is definitely not the same as the original. In our case, it appeared to be stretched in one direction and not the other, so it only shrunk in one direction.

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Re: monokote?
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2020, 06:48:50 PM »
Same experience here--it shrinks ok spanwise but not across the roll. Seems like this goes back a few years, although I never put dates on the rolls I bought. Don't think it is exclusive to one color. Have had issues with white, yellow, light blue, etc.  It's still usable, but not what we came to expect--a really good way to finish a wing if you couldn't, or didn't want to, paint it.


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Re: monokote?
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2020, 09:11:04 PM »
   At least the type Jim and I tried is definitely not the same as the original. In our case, it appeared to be stretched in one direction and not the other, so it only shrunk in one direction.

    Brett

Absolutely true. I just meant it's still being produced under the monokote name. It is not the monokote of yesteryear. But, if a person is accustomed to the new stuff, he or she can look forward to continued support.

I recently picked up Vintage Performance Models new iron on covering. I got 4 rolls to test. For the same price as competitive brands of iron on, you get 2 more linear feet of material.

Edit: as you noted, monokote brand shrinks more in the length direction than in the width. I don't find this to be the case with other brands
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Re: monokote?
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2020, 10:10:42 PM »

Edit: as you noted, monokote brand shrinks more in the length direction than in the width. I don't find this to be the case with other brands

   Right, and neither did the original Monokote. Thats why the next time I have to do it, I am switching to Ultrakote. Not as good as the original Monokote but better than the current.

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Re: monokote?
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2020, 10:47:22 PM »
Lately I have been using Hobbyking or RealHawk covering film primarily due to cost and low temp for covering unsheeted foam wings.  The models have been sport/combat models so longevity is not an issue.

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Re: monokote?
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2020, 06:44:43 AM »
If monokote is still being produced I wonder if inquiring to the manufacture about its limitations would help?

What are the ARF manufacturers overseas using for covering?

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Re: monokote?
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2020, 07:31:02 AM »
Lately I have been using Hobbyking or RealHawk covering film primarily due to cost and low temp for covering unsheeted foam wings.  The models have been sport/combat models so longevity is not an issue.

There are guys in my RC club using Hobbyking covering on both glow and electric and so far I haven't seen any issues.
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Re: monokote?
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2020, 08:30:45 AM »
If monokote is still being produced I wonder if inquiring to the manufacture about its limitations would help?

What are the ARF manufacturers overseas using for covering?

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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2020, 08:32:04 AM »
I cannot believe Larry Fernandez has not commented on this thread. He does the best Monokote work I've ever seen.  y1 Steve
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Re: monokote?
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2020, 08:45:03 AM »
How does HobbyKing shrink out at the tips? Can the wrinkles be eliminated as with monokote?

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Re: monokote?
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2020, 09:51:17 AM »
I did a video review several years back about the hobby king iron on. I liked it ok.  I would compare it to econokote in application. The corners and tips come out nice. It has a great lower temp range for compound curves. Just gotta be careful with too much heat. You can burn a hole "easier" (not that it's easy, just more susceptible than monokote) while pulling.

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Re: monokote?
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2020, 10:57:44 AM »
I cannot believe Larry Fernandez has not commented on this thread. He does the best Monokote work I've ever seen.   LL~ Steve

My thought exactly! He even received an AMA plaque for "Best Monocoat Job"!!!! ~^

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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2020, 11:42:13 AM »
I cannot believe Larry Fernandez has not commented on this thread. He does the best Monokote work I've ever seen.   LL~ Steve

My thought exactly! He even received an AMA plaque for "Best Monocoat Job"!!!! ~^

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Re: monokote?
« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2020, 12:57:39 PM »
Dale,

HobbyKing has a shrink film and an iron pvc film, which film did you do the comparison with? The shrink film looks to be most similar to monokote.

Steve

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« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2020, 02:32:37 PM »

   He doesn't have time to respond to such trivial and puerile (not to mention, beaten into the ground) taunts.   The Commissioner has his hands full  working closely with the Biden transition team to ensure a smooth operation of The Hurl under the new administration.

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Re: monokote?
« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2020, 03:18:34 PM »
Dane,

HobbyKing has a shrink film and an iron pvc film, which film did you do the comparison with? The shrink film looks to be most similar to monokote.

Steve

Like this one. https://hobbyking.com/en_us/covering-film-solid-white-5mtr-113.html

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Re: monokote?
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2020, 03:53:03 PM »
Dane,

It's is a better value than monokote, the shrink roll is about 15 f long. I'll give it a try.

Thanks,

Steve


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