ThunderCloud, PoleDancer and Naughty Girl (Formerly Take a look at these)

[Mike Griffin]

All three are now being ordered.  I also have added an Electric page on my website www.stuntsupply.com.

Thanks

Mike

[Wynn Robins]

C'mon Mike - be the first to provide an Electric Full Fuse stunter......

[Gene O'Keefe]

Naughty Girl appeals to me....nice looking airplane.

[Bill Hummel]

I've flown the Thundercloud; excellent stunter!  Well-built, looked "cool" in the pattern, which it flew thru with ease! Very capable, very nice to fly, very friendly. 

[Mike Griffin]

I am working on it Wynn.  Thanks Gene and Bill.  PM sent.

[Steve Helmick]

Mike, I think that you need to give some basic specs on the designs, before people will decide they want to sign up or not. Wing area, power requirement, and maybe a rough idea of the price of the kit. I'm trying to help! 
 
Isn't the Thundercloud an electron burner? I'm not 100% sure on that. It's a good looking plane! The profile...well, it can be "kit bashed" easily, so who cares what it looks like now? I'd like to see somebody kit the first electric that wins the Walker Cup.    Steve

[Peter Nevai]

Rumor has it there are more than a few looking for a Forerunner Kit. And I don't think you would have to twist any arms if it cam with foam cores. Hint, Hint.

[Mike Griffin]

Mike, I think that you need to give some basic specs on the designs, before people will decide they want to sign up or not. Wing area, power requirement, and maybe a rough idea of the price of the kit. I'm trying to help! 
 
Isn't the Thundercloud an electron burner? I'm not 100% sure on that. It's a good looking plane! The profile...well, it can be "kit bashed" easily, so who cares what it looks like now? I'd like to see somebody kit the first electric that wins the Walker Cup.    Steve

Steve these kits are already available on my website.  They will come from RSM.  They are new and I am in the process of getting the specs so I can post them on my website for you guys.  I just didn't have the specs at this posting.

Mike

[Jerry Leuty]

     Check the specs with John Ashford of Ashford Aviation. These are two of his models. John decidely builds nothing but .40 size stunters. Now the Thunder Cloud was built for another pilot. John will also build these for you for $$$$

[Steve Helmick]

Walter Umland is doing the Forerunner.  Not sure if it has foam wings. I know I sure do love the way mine flys.

Supposed to be a built-up wing. Foam wings are not cheap, and the wing gear makes it even more, plus the packing and shipping (bulk) would make the foam kit a lot more expensive. I'd like one with a built-up wing, but not a foam wing (sold one recently). Does WU have his own laser cutter?  Steve

[Allan Perret]

I really like that Thundercloud.  
Might have to get me one of those if it aint TOO big.  
Does anybody know what issue of SN it was that had the construction article ?

Never mind I found it.  It was not Stunt News, it was Jan.2010 issue of Control Line World.
 

[Allan Perret]

OK, I just read the article.  Not really a construction article.  Written by both John Ashford (builder) and Will Moore (commissioner) about the project development of the bird.  Not a lot of specifics in the article, but I did get this much.  Was designed for Saito 62, wing was based on SV-22, area somewhere around 680-700 sq.in.  Did not mention span or any other numbers.   But looks like its not much bigger than you average full size stunter.  I dont think it would accommodate a pipe,  but looks ideal for lectric power.

[John Miller]

The Thunder Cloud is a great looking bird. John Ashton did a great job with it. The plans I have show a span of 60 inches, an area of 665 sq inches, and a legnth of 46 1/2" .

An electric power setup should fit just fine.

[builditright]

I don't want to hijack Mikes post but yes I am doing the Forerunner,
please visit my website for its progress, the webpage has been there
for approx 2 months now.

 

[Will Moore]

OK, I just read the article.  Not really a construction article.  Written by both John Ashford (builder) and Will Moore (commissioner) about the project development of the bird.  Not a lot of specifics in the article, but I did get this much.  Was designed for Saito 62, wing was based on SV-22, area somewhere around 680-700 sq.in.  Did not mention span or any other numbers.   But looks like its not much bigger than you average full size stunter.  I dont think it would accommodate a pipe,  but looks ideal for lectric power.

It is indeed both electric and glow.  I have it listed in the "getting all amped up" section of this forum under "list your set-up".  
The Thunder Cloud works equally well with a 4-stroke and electric.
I did not have to do any modifications inside the nose for the re=powering in electric.  It even balanced out correctly.  John used a R/C mount , to a firewall/bulkhead
to strap on the Saito 62.  I took out the R/C mount and bolted the electric motor directly to the firewall.  Gas tank compartment became the electronics/battery compartment.

Utilizes the S22 wing, has longer longer tail moments than usual, and massive fuselage to house everything. I don't see any problem housing a pipe.
Thunder Cloud proved to be a really nice flying machine.  Radial  open front end of the fuselage not only looks cool, but literally cools everything.
One of the best performing models I have ever had.  I would think it would be incredibly popular as a kit.  I would want several.

[Mike Griffin]

It is indeed both electric and glow.  I have it listed in the "getting all amped up" section of this forum under "list your set-up".  
The Thunder Cloud works equally well with a 4-stroke and electric.
I did not have to do any modifications inside the nose for the re=powering in electric.  It even balanced out correctly.  John used a R/C mount , to a firewall/bulkhead
to strap on the Saito 62.  I took out the R/C mount and bolted the electric motor directly to the firewall.  Gas tank compartment became the electronics/battery compartment.

Utilizes the S22 wing, has longer longer tail moments than usual, and massive fuselage to house everything. I don't see any problem housing a pipe.
Thunder Cloud proved to be a really nice flying machine.  Radial  open front end of the fuselage not only looks cool, but literally cools everything.
One of the best performing models I have ever had.  I would think it would be incredibly popular as a kit.  I would want several.

Hi Will and to all reading this thread.

Yes the kits are available.  There is  a pre-production special on them before the ads hit the magazines.  If you will go to my website www.stuntsupply.com and go to the ThunderCloud tab at the left, you can get the special pricing for advance orders on the kits.  Also, the PoleDancer is available which is the .40 - .46 size of the ThunderCloud.  Same plane just a little smaller.

Thanks Mike

Mike

[Leester]

Sorry Wynn but BJM beat everybody to it as they have the Enterprize-E and have had for several years. Brodak distributes it along with BJM. It is full fuselage dedicated Electric.

[John Ashford]

Hey Boys abd Girls,

I'm very pleased to see the interest in these planes.  50+ years of building and designing my own planes and this is the top of the mountain for me.  They all look pretty good and fly extremely well.  For those interested here are the specs:

Thunder Cloud:
     Area  665.5 sq in.  Span: 60.2 in.  Length:  46.5  Power:  4 stroke .62-.72  2 stroke  .65-.75  Electric.   Weight RTF (no fuel)  67-72 ozs.  Will's weighed 68.5 when it left my shop.

Pole Dancer:
     40 sized T-Cloud.  Area 570 sq in.  Span:  55.5.  Length:  43 in.   Power:  Designed for LA. 46  Weight RTF   46 ozs.

Naughty Girl:
     Area: 585 sq in.  Span:  49 in,  Length:  42.5 in  Power:  Designed for Brodak .40  Shorten nose 1 in for LA .46    Weight RTF  45 ozs

Weights are from my customer notes and my own personal planes.

Hope this helps.

Later, John

Corrrected Specs on Thunder Cloud 

[Mike Griffin]

Thank you for posting the specs John.  I did not have them all.  The response to the release of these has been very good.  Orders are already coming in.

Thank you for your contribution with these designs.

Mike

[Allan Perret]

It is indeed both electric and glow.  I have it listed in the "getting all amped up" section of this forum under "list your set-up".  
The Thunder Cloud works equally well with a 4-stroke and electric.
I did not have to do any modifications inside the nose for the re=powering in electric.  It even balanced out correctly.  John used a R/C mount , to a firewall/bulkhead
to strap on the Saito 62.  I took out the R/C mount and bolted the electric motor directly to the firewall.  Gas tank compartment became the electronics/battery compartment.

Utilizes the S22 wing, has longer longer tail moments than usual, and massive fuselage to house everything. I don't see any problem housing a pipe.
Thunder Cloud proved to be a really nice flying machine.  Radial  open front end of the fuselage not only looks cool, but literally cools everything.
One of the best performing models I have ever had.  I would think it would be incredibly popular as a kit.  I would want several.

Received the RSM kit today.  Looking at the plan I dont see how you think this design would accommodate a pipe.  The wing is in the very bottom of the fuse.  Only way a pipe can go in there, it would be hanging out the bottom.    How did the vertical CG come out on original ?
 

[Wynn Robins]

Sorry Wynn but BJM beat everybody to it as they have the Enterprize-E and have had for several years. Brodak distributes it along with BJM. It is full fuselage dedicated Electric.

its just a nobler tho - not really a "modern stunt" kit

[Allen Brickhaus]

Nice choice of all three.  Good job Michael Griffin.