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Offline Ivan Bolton

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Legacy 40 and OS 46LA
« on: May 01, 2012, 06:13:48 AM »
I was thinking of a Legacy 40 for my next project.  I have the plan and it seems like a big airframe with a very thick wing section,  for a 40 sized model.  Power would be an OS 46 LA or perhaps a reworked ST 51  Has anyone any experience of this model?   I have a 60 sized Legacy and it flies well - I just wonder about this 40 size  as I can find very little in the way of comment on it.

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Re: Legacy 40 and OS 46LA
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2012, 07:54:15 AM »
Although I don't have one, I have seen one fly with a Tigre .51 in it and it wasn't over powered, so I'd go with the .51
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Re: Legacy 40 and OS 46LA
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2012, 08:13:50 AM »
I was thinking of a Legacy 40 for my next project.  I have the plan and it seems like a big airframe with a very thick wing section,  for a 40 sized model.  Power would be an OS 46 LA or perhaps a reworked ST 51  Has anyone any experience of this model?   I have a 60 sized Legacy and it flies well - I just wonder about this 40 size  as I can find very little in the way of comment on it.

Thanks

Ivan,
I had built 1 of the 2 prototypes.  It is a wonderful flying airplane.  The ST 51 would be too much for the airplane and it would be nose heavy.  Go with the LA 46, that's what I ended up in mine when they changed line sizes from engine displacement to weight.
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Re: Legacy 40 and OS 46LA
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2012, 08:15:23 AM »
I think either would work fine. I guess it depends on the final weight. The ST51 is a couple of ounces heavier than the LA46.
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Re: Legacy 40 and OS 46LA
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2012, 03:18:21 PM »
Keep it around 48 ounces or less and use the 46la.

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Re: Legacy 40 and OS 46LA
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2012, 04:31:24 PM »
Thanks for all of that.  That setlles it!!  A 46LA it is and I now know to keep it light.  It looks like a very nice build. I'm looking forward to it.  I have 46LAs in other stunters and they, with exception,  perform very well indeed so I'm glad  one is suitable for this model.  The wing will be jig built.

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Re: Legacy 40 and OS 46LA
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2012, 06:49:11 PM »
Thanks for all of that.  That setlles it!!  A 46LA it is and I now know to keep it light.  It looks like a very nice build. I'm looking forward to it.  I have 46LAs in other stunters and they, with exception,  perform very well indeed so I'm glad  one is suitable for this model.  The wing will be jig built.

Ivan,
I am a big fan of the big blue engines for a few reasons. What is the exception you had with a LA .46? Do tell.
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Re: Legacy 40 and OS 46LA
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2012, 07:18:11 PM »
Vince Bodde flew this same combo at the nats, and here in Michigan. He has done real well with it.   Steve

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Re: Legacy 40 and OS 46LA
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2012, 11:54:37 PM »
I had the privilege of helping Allen do some trim flights on one built by Watt Moore the year the kit was released. It is a really nice flying airplane. I believe Watt only had a 40 in his. It appeared adeqautely well powered all through the pattern. I am sure an LA 46 would do the job very nicely and not require the tail weight you may need with a ST51. However, a Stalker 51 in the nose would be light enough if you are craving plenty of well behaved ponies in the nose. H^^

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Re: Legacy 40 and OS 46LA
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2012, 07:48:04 PM »
Sorry my post should have read without exception not 'with' exception  oopps!!.  46LAs have got to be about one of the most flexible basic stuint engine out there.  I have 6 of them and all perform the same - excellent just excellent. 


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Re: Legacy 40 and OS 46LA
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2012, 06:46:22 PM »
Thank you all for the information.  I have just ordered the kit from Brodaks.  I couldn't scratch build it for the price of the kit at $109.00 even allowing for the postage - great value!!  Should have it within a week or so.

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Re: Legacy 40 and OS 46LA
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2012, 09:30:20 PM »
I have the kit, you won't be disappointetd. Perfect for the LA-46. That's my choice also.  8)
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Re: Legacy 40 and OS 46LA
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2012, 09:49:44 PM »
"Sorry my post should have read without exception not 'with' exception  oops!!.  46LAs have got to be about one of the most flexible basic stunt engine out there.  I have 6 of them and all perform the same - excellent just excellent. "

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I've had similar experiences with the LA 46. I currently own 3. Two are in ARF Noblers and one in a Sterling Skylark copy. The newest one (about 8 hours total run time) is a little tighter and slightly more powerful than the other 2, but all run very well.

It is an excellent entry level and general purpose stunt engine and I often recommend it as such to other fliers. I'd even say its a couple of notches above that and can give engines costing 3 or 4 times as much a run for their money!

One feature I really like is the easy starting. One or two finger chokes to prime it, then a few flips and its running. Starting in one or two flips is common. I stooge fly a lot and cannot be unhooking the stooge and inverting the model for starting (I often see this done with some other engines).

One might suspect a strong .46 would be too much for a "Nobler size" model, but it isn't. My benchmark fuel is 7.5% nitro, 10% castor and 10% Klotz (blended Sig fuels) with a Sig GP-003 plug and Zinger 11 X 5 prop. All have the traditional "forward mounted" needle valve assembly. Once I "needle" it, speed can be changed by an increase or decrease in nitro %, often without tweaking the needle. In the Noblers it runs the pattern on a 4.5 oz. tank with many laps to spare.

High quality, reliability, good stunt power, readily available engines and parts, no rework needed and the price is right. What more could you ask for? How about a rear exhaust version with header muffler and built in "stinger" (exhaust diverter) for around $139.50. That would be sooo cool.

I suspect the LA .46 would fly a larger and heavier model competitively and have been "tempted" to try one in an ARF SV-11. Has anyone done that yet (so I don't have to!)? Local fliers have install them in three ARF Scores and I got to fly all of those models once, under ideal conditions. I limited stunts to loops, lazy eights and inverted flight. These were all stock Scores and weighted around 69 +/- 2 ounces. The engine pulled them surprisingly well (on 10% to 15% nitro), though it was probably hitting its limit with the Score. Something in between the Nobler and Score in size and weight should be a perfect match. Regards, EWP


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