Post your displeasure on this matter to AMA

[wwwarbird]

Personally had trouble believing controline is included for need to register. What possible "threat" could be a tethered craft on 70 foot(altitude) lines?

 As typical, and expected, they just take the easy way out to include all model aviation. Slam, bam, thank you etc. They don't have the knowledge or common sense and certainly aren't going to spend the effort to attempt it any other way. We are currently riding the upper lip of the downward spiral, soon to fall in.

[RC Storick]

Will the model airplane police have a scale with them? This is so stupid.

[Scott Richlen]

I had to get out my Dec MA and look at that picture of Bob Brown in a Santa Suit holding a quadcopter one more time.  Holy cow!!!  Could anything say "out of touch with reality" more than this picture?  Wow!  This guy needs to resign.  Now!

Scott

[BillP]

Today, I called the AMA and got a voice recording saying due to the volume of calls, leave a message.  I left a message I want my money back for the 2 years in advance I paid.  I can do without flying RC planes.  I don't need a club field then.  I still have my rc helicopters, rc gas boats, rc gas cars and control line. 

Being that the last attacker in CA had an rc car loaded to deliver a weapon, you can bet the next hit on the registration list will be land based toys too. The AMA is officially posting in support of regulations for those who aren't part of a "community" organization, which I assume means everyone who isn't an AMA member.  That's a stab in the back to all the modelers who aren't members...who probably far outnumber AMA memberships. 

[Ken Burdick]

Not meaning to be contrary, because I feel the same as all y'all, I called the vp of controline or some such title at AMA a few years back. I asked what the proportion of R/C to u/c was. We don't even show up on the radar. R/C pays the bills and we owe them our low insurance rates. R/C as we know it is a blip on the radar compared to park flyers and quads.
Other than that, I have no use for the organization on a personal level. At major contests I mostly fly NON AMA events. I fly the ones that we've created and make sense....cept D speed....it makes NO SENSE but is fun.

I'm done ranting now.

Ken

[JIM Nordin]

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[Target]

I just read the same thing. The level of stupidity is astounding.
R,
Chris

[Steve Dwyer]

Decided to revisit this thread since 12/16 and not to my surprise the issue just continues to go round and round and will continue until the Govt. gets what they want and they will because money is driving it. Saw the same thing with General Aviation regarding the leaded fuel issue and FAA’s recent nationwide roll's of ADS-B (the updated transponder system). It's all about lobbyist in DC and the interest of the general public.

We need to make a decision here, either get used to it, jump on the band wagon register our "kites" or ignore it as I plan to. After 50 years being away from control line flying I dug out from the attic 2 years ago a bunch of old stuff, I completely enjoyed re educating myself (thanks to you folks) on present building techniques and returning to the air. Just completed a scratch built a Flite Streak and have on the bench a RMS Tutor 50 and a Primary Force kit to complete this winter. Have I enjoyed myself again with control flying you bet! Must I continue to remain a member of the AMA? Not at all! Will I miss the magazine that typically devotes a page or two to control line? Nope not a bit. Do I need the AMA for competition and insurance purposes? Nope. Do I need to be registered to be a member of the local RC Club where they have allocated a soggy flooded corner of their property to myself and one other control line person. Nope. Do I have an alternate location to fly control line with my CL buddy? Yes several and even closer. So I'll continue to watch the issue spin and enjoy myself with my teathered models.  Weather in the North East continues to remain way above seasonal conditions so I'm going flying.

[JoeJust]

Because I dropped all, TV reception and local newspaper when I retired from being a "News Director" for 3 different radio stations I have not kept up with the "Drone" sales projections except in MA.  Just (no pun in tended) for the heck of it I went to EBay and typed in "Quad Copters" I could not believe that the first page showed so many different types. And then I began to count the numbers sold.  Over 1000 on the first page!  I went to the bottom of the page and discovered that there were more than 16 pages showing these Quads for sale, and most of them were shipped at no cost. Before I left the site I looked on several of the better selling Quads and could not find any mention of having to register them with he FAA. What a total screw-up this registration has and will become!  There is no way the FAA can honestly manage 1.5 million sales this month that will be unaware of the registration procedures.  By the time they finally get the mess figured out Iw ill be 80 and more than likely will not even remember what the big HOO-HA was all about.
Joe Just

[FLOYD CARTER]

I don't understand all the animosity against the AMA.  Those complaining must think the AMA is representing them in some way.  They are not!

The AMA is presently totally divorced from C/L stunt.  They do not represent me in any way.

Therefore, I can't get excited about anything they say or do.

I renew my membership only because our flying field requires AMA membership.

Surely, there must be something more important to complain about.

Floyd

[Mike Griffin]

Decided to revisit this thread since 12/16 and not to my surprise the issue just continues to go round and round and will continue until the Govt. gets what they want and they will because money is driving it. Saw the same thing with General Aviation regarding the leaded fuel issue and FAA’s recent nationwide roll's of ADS-B (the updated transponder system). It's all about lobbyist in DC and the interest of the general public.

We need to make a decision here, either get used to it, jump on the band wagon register our "kites" or ignore it as I plan to. After 50 years being away from control line flying I dug out from the attic 2 years ago a bunch of old stuff, I completely enjoyed re educating myself (thanks to you folks) on present building techniques and returning to the air. Just completed a scratch built a Flite Streak and have on the bench a RMS Tutor 50 and a Primary Force kit to complete this winter. Have I enjoyed myself again with control flying you bet! Must I continue to remain a member of the AMA? Not at all! Will I miss the magazine that typically devotes a page or two to control line? Nope not a bit. Do I need the AMA for competition and insurance purposes? Nope. Do I need to be registered to be a member of the local RC Club where they have allocated a soggy flooded corner of their property to myself and one other control line person. Nope. Do I have an alternate location to fly control line with my CL buddy? Yes several and even closer. So I'll continue to watch the issue spin and enjoy myself with my teathered models.  Weather in the North East continues to remain way above seasonal conditions so I'm going flying.

Hi STEVE, I had to chuckle a little when I read this because it reminded me of me so much.  I enjoyed it.

Mike

[Mike Griffin]

I don't understand all the animosity against the AMA.  Those complaining must think the AMA is representing them in some way.  They are not!

The AMA is presently totally divorced from C/L stunt.  They do not represent me in any way.

Therefore, I can't get excited about anything they say or do.

I renew my membership only because our flying field requires AMA membership.

Surely, there must be something more important to complain about.

Floyd

Hi Floyd,

I think most of the disgust towards AMA by the control line community,at least mine is, because we have been drug into a situation that we never should have been and the reason seems to be because AMA has embraced the drone culture as "the future of Model aviation".  The mainstream media is also a huge culprit in this by sensationalizing these incidents caused by irresponsible folks flying them that are probably not even heard of AMA.  I personally fault AMA for not distancing themselves from drones early on and letting their greed interfere with common sense and what the original intent of AMA was.  I don't hate the AMA, I just don't see them as the advocate for the base membership anymore and that is why I have dropped out.  I don't know if others feel this way but I do.  When these beauracratic government agencies get involved in something Like this, every aspect of model aviation gets lumped together because there is no common sense involved.  I don't think the AMA went to battle for us the way they should have because of their love of the money for advertising revenue.  If in fact we do end up being exempt from this stupidity, I still think we should support the true RC flyers because this could still come back to bite us in the butt later.

Mike

[peabody]

Mike....
If you have "dropped out", your voice has no bearing ....
Just sayin......you cannot change an organization like the AMA from outside......unless, of course, you are the FAA

[Mike Griffin]

Mike....
If you have "dropped out", your voice has no bearing ....
Just sayin......you cannot change an organization like the AMA from outside......unless, of course, you are the FAA

Hi Rich, this is a personal choice. I have not flown competitively for a long time now and I just see better uses for my money to put into my modeling budget.  Our local club has in fact dropped out of AMA and we have certain members who still belong because they compete.  My personal circumstances are such that I don't need AMA and I have no agenda against the organization, I just see no need of them anymore as it pertains to me. 

Mike

[FLOYD CARTER]

Mike G.  I think we are arguing the same point.

Unfortunately, I can't "drop out".  My flying field requires AMA membership.

F.C.

[Mike Griffin]

We are Floyd.  I have no idea how all this is going to shake out.  It might just all go away or it might get more complicated, who knows.  Did you see where there are going to be millions of these drone things sold for Christmas presents?   Seems to Be the hot toy this year.

Mike

[Steve Dwyer]

Mike G.   The real Drone issue is only just beginning, as sales of these nuisance toys continue to rise it will be interesting to see how the Feds will handle it. Wait until the jokers using them start flying them through windshields causing deaths on the highways or you hear of someone complaining some sickie was hovering outside a window as their daughter was taking a shower. They have already been reported flying too close to aircraft at airports.

 It's the tip of the ice berg to say the least. And I predict as the problem grows the Feds will never succeed in attempting to ban or restrict their use but instead I see them imposing a steep tax on manufacturing the batteries. Good way to make money. If the AMA was clever they'd work it so that their friends would stipulate the purchaser is mandated to enroll in the AMA as a vehicle in maintaining "proper use awareness" and of course enjoy the benefits of the equipment manufacturers advertising charges. Everyone wins! What a joke.

Steve

[wwwarbird]

 Get this...

 A fellow C/L club member of mine stopped into the LHS for a few supplies yesterday in Minneapolis. This particular shop is about as large as they get anymore. With it being this close to Christmas the store was very busy, including noticeable lines of people buying drones. While he was there he asked the store manager what he thought of the latest FAA developments with aero-modeling and particularly the drone issue. The manager replied, "Don't worry, it doesn't apply to us."

 Really.