Gas to the flying field

[frank mccune]

     To Jim S.

     You have it correct.  The rest is just BS from ignorant people!

     Well done Sir.

      Frank

[Doug Moon]

Ken,

You missed the point I was trying to make.  If you cannot refine what you produce or if your refining capacity cannot satisfy your needs thus forcing you to partially rely on imports you are not independent.  What do you think would happen if we stopped importing?

The NET exporter is a HUGE deal. You are correct in our refining ability and that we cant refine all that we have due to refining capacity. But what we CAN and ALMOST did as a net exporter onto the world marker was break OPEC or put a huge dent in their leverage against the world.  That is where we make HUGE gains and save some money for many people around the world. We can force the market down by undercutting those who have a stranglehold on it. We cant do that now...

The pic below was just over 2 years ago. 

 

[Teodorico Terry]

In 2019 the US exported 3M barrels a day, Russia was exporting about 8.2M barrels before the war, about 2.5 times the excess capacity of the US in 2019.  But that was before COVID hit, demand went down, etc, etc. In 2023 US production is expected to reach 12.8M barrels per day once again (2020 peak) while the country still under Biden. People seem to forget that it is not like you can just turn the tap on and expect more oil suddenly to be available and that we will have the capacity to refine it.  Finally, oil produced in the US needs a relatively high per barrel price in order to be profitable, 38 dollars per barrel as it was in 2020 when demand dropped made production in the US unattractive. It is a different story today, but the question is for how long....

[frank williams]

I think the crude we were exporting was crude from shale production.  Apparently our refineries aren't set up to refine this grade of crude.  We haven't built a new refinery in the US for over 40+ years.  Too difficult to get through the environmental lawsuits and the EPA regulations.  Meridian Oil is about to bring a new refinery online in N. Dakota to specifically refine this shale crude.  They are building it right in the middle of the shale field.  Minimum transport.  Most refineries were on the Gulf coast to take what ever grade of crude that showed up in the tankers.  Its not a done deal yet but after almost a decade of work, the last suit is in the Dakota supreme court.

I'll say again that this worry about EPA bullshit is ridiculous.  I want clean air and water like anyone else, but the AWG hockeystick data is demonstrably a hoax.  It ain't real.  Its a religious cult. The "king has no clothes"  its all false.  The US ... the whole world ... is wasting trillions and untold amounts of scientific effort on a mann made hoax.

[peabody]

Wow....record number of election denyers yammering here

[Ken Culbertson]

Wow....record number of election denyers yammering here

Charles, is that you?

[Teodorico Terry]

Peabody,

Too bad the forum does not have a "like" button, you would have gotten one from me.

Frank,

Many conservatives have been trying to discredit the data for a long time and I believe that a big deal was made when corrections were made to the historical data to account for how modern temperature measurements are made. The Earth is mostly covered by water and for a long time the data was collected by ships as they made their weather observations. More recently, the data is collected using buoys which record temperatures which are lower than those recorded by ships. Once you realize that the temperatures a few feet above the water are cooler than those recorded 10-20 ft above the surface you can correct for the discrepancy. Most of the historic data was collected by ships and unless you corrected for the discrepancy you would be looking at apparently unrelated data sets (ship vs. buoy). Many jumped at this claiming that the data was being changed to fit the narrative. Something similar happened with COVID. Unlike faith or beliefs, science can change course when presented with contradictory data in an effort to gain a better understanding, unfortunately, some either lacking in either imagination or understanding see that as an attempt at deceit.

[Brett Buck]

Wow....record number of election denyers yammering here

  No one said one word about the election, moron. Except maybe to note the undeniable fact that before the election we were net exporters, and after, we are back to importing.

   I am sure a man of your, er, capabilities, was thrilled to see your chosen candidate bumping fists with Mohammed bin Salman the other day, a man even a dimwit like Biden called an international pariah after he *had a man dismembered alive* for daring to criticize him. Quite heroic cowtowing to a butcher, that's just how you guys roll.

    All to get *zero* assistance on gas prices - after Biden and his cronies went out of their way to run up the cost yo try to force us all into electric cars. That probably*was* uninitentional, although numbingly predictable* because they are so stupid they don't understand the root causes of inflation or supply-and-demand.

    Brett

*https://stunthanger.com/smf/open-forum/virus-second-opion/msg582506/#msg582506

[John Gluth]

because they are so stupid they don't understand the root causes of inflation or supply-and-demand.

    Brett

*https://stunthanger.com/smf/open-forum/virus-second-opion/msg582506/#msg582506

Brett,
Stupid would be an excuse for what is deliberate!   

“We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.”

So declared Barack Obama in Columbia, Missouri, on Oct. 30, 2008, on the cusp of his historic presidential election.

    John

[peabody]

Geez....Brett's upset about a fist bump.....the orange traitor kissed, hugged and bowed to the guy, and "W" walked holding hands.
Blame Hillary

[Steve Berry]

Geez....Brett's upset about a fist bump.....the orange traitor kissed, hugged and bowed to the guy, and "W" walked holding hands.
Blame Hillary

I call absolute bullcorn on this. Your TDS is showing your a$$! Trump did not bow to the Saudis. He shook their hand like a man and they respect him. No one respects biden, not even himself. As for "W"....that sorry sack can go to Mexico and %hit himself.

[frank williams]

Wasn't it Obama who bowed to the Saudi King?

[Teodorico Terry]

Maybe a little reminder.... I was surprised to see that no one went nuts after he saluted the North Korean general.  That one was a big no-no.  The junior always salutes first and waits for the more senior to return the salute.  I wonder how the N. Koreans interpreted that one....The first photo shows him with the King and the second one with the Prince in question. The last one, you be the judge....

[Dwayne Donnelly]

Darn and this was one of the few off topic posts that had some good debate and not devolved into,  you know who is this, no he isn't what about your guy, yes he is, no he isn't grade school back and forth, oh well it was good while it lasted.

[Robert Zambelli]

GREAT POST, Brett, you nailed it!
No nonsense, right to the point.

Bob Z.

  No one said one word about the election, moron. Except maybe to note the undeniable fact that before the election we were net exporters, and after, we are back to importing.

   I am sure a man of your, er, capabilities, was thrilled to see your chosen candidate bumping fists with Mohammed bin Salman the other day, a man even a dimwit like Biden called an international pariah after he *had a man dismembered alive* for daring to criticize him. Quite heroic cowtowing to a butcher, that's just how you guys roll.

    All to get *zero* assistance on gas prices - after Biden and his cronies went out of their way to run up the cost yo try to force us all into electric cars. That probably*was* unintentional, although numbingly predictable* because they are so stupid they don't understand the root causes of inflation or supply-and-demand.

    Brett

*https://stunthanger.com/smf/open-forum/virus-second-opion/msg582506/#msg582506

[Scott Richlen]

Hey Brett - like my new T-shirt?

[wwwarbird]

GREAT POST, Brett, you nailed it!
No nonsense, right to the point.

Bob Z.

 Right on Brett, as usual. 

[frank mccune]

     Wayne and Katana:

     Thanks for your replies.  Well done!

      Frank

[Mike Griffin]

Wasn't it Obama who bowed to the Saudi King?

Yes it was Frank....not Trump.  If people are going to comment they need to get their facts straight....if facts even matter to some anymore.


Mike

[Dennis Leonhardi]

To deny the Biden Administration has any significant responsibility for the current price of gas would seemingly require (1) that we are extremely naïve, (2) that we simply bury our head in the sand, or (3) that we are so intent on defending Biden we simply deny facts.  Biden campaigned, in part, on his pledge to end fossil fuels; once elected, Kamala Harris publicly declared, “This Administration will do it.”

Is the English language really that difficult to understand!?!

From the News:

“During his first days in office, President Biden signed an executive order that paused new permissions on oil and gas drilling. Thirteen states that rely heavily on oil and gas industries filed a lawsuit and, after a judge blocked the administration’s order, the sale went through in November that netted almost $192 million.”

“Several environmental groups then sued over the sale, saying it was conducted under flawed assumptions.”

“U.S. District Court Judge Rudolph Contreras agreed, saying the lease sale was invalid because an analysis by the Department of the Interior did not fully take into consideration how the leases will impact the climate. His decision effectively cancels 1.7 million acres of leases. Judge Contreras found that the president’s administration used outdated modeling from the prior administration when it looked at the climate-warming impact of the lease sale.”

On a side note:  You may recognize that name - Judge Rudolph Contreras presided at the trial of Michael Flynn and accepted Flynn’s guilty plea but was then recused from the trial.  Emails reveal he had a friendship with Peter Strzok, the disgraced FBI lawyer who was involved in the prosecution of Flynn.  Strzok and his lover, Lisa Page, were thrilled to learn Contreras would preside over the trial and planned a dinner party to bend the Judge’s ear!

And Contreras was also the Presiding Judge of the FISA Court.  If you think the “Swamp” is a figment of someone’s imagination, you’re obviously not paying attention!

Federal law (dating to 1980 I believe) requires the Bureau of Land Management to hold quarterly auctions of leases for oil and gas exploration and development.  Here in Wyoming, there were no auctions in the first 5 quarters of the Biden Administration.  Apparently, a court injunction was necessary to revive those auctions last month.

The Biden Administration and Congress enacted more restrictive limits on methane emissions for new facilities; Biden further issued an Executive Order directing the EPA to develop new, more stringent regulations and to reach existing facilities.

No responsibility!?!

Dennis

One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.  -  Plato

PS: Lord knows, we can't let sage grouse become extinct!  Yup, that's the big concern ... or is it?
PSS: Think we'll find anything about "climate change" in that 1980 law?