Author Topic: F2B World Championships (Read 39154 times)

Bob Reeves · « **on:** July 12, 2018, 02:39:38 AM »

Registration tomorrow, first official flights on Sunday the 15th. Best of luck to the US team.

Elwyn Aud · « **Reply #1 on:** July 14, 2018, 05:41:15 PM »

Any news or perhaps a website that has info?

B Norton · « **Reply #2 on:** July 14, 2018, 06:02:50 PM »

All I know is the u.s.competitors are there .Their airplanes are safely there . All signed in and ready to go Joe Gilbert flight is at 9:51 their time.I'm hoping for a good showing!! I'll be proud no matter what.

bill bischoff · « **Reply #3 on:** July 14, 2018, 06:25:49 PM »

The US team site is 2018clwc.org. It has a link to the official site in the upper left corner.

Elwyn Aud · « **Reply #4 on:** July 14, 2018, 06:26:36 PM »

http://www.f2cmbl.org/index.php/fr/wc2018
Found a little bit here. Digging around on the site might turn up more info. Might not be much to report at present.

john e. holliday · « **Reply #5 on:** July 14, 2018, 06:55:50 PM »

I had to go looking as I couldn't remember all the F2B team members. But they are Richard Oliver, Chris Rud, Joe Gilbert and Samantha Hines(Jr member). Even if they don't win the FAI World Champs they will get the experience and memories.

Now lets hope all the other USA teams made it, F2A, F2C and F2D. Go team USA.

Ruslan Kurenkov · « **Reply #6 on:** July 15, 2018, 05:57:53 AM »

Hello! Yesterday at 8 pm was the opening of the World Cup. Participants from 33 countries of the world are registered. In my class F2B - 97 competitors. Today the first flights in the tours. One flight per day. In just 4 days there will be 4 qualifying flights, two on the asphalt and two on the grass. Will sum up the best result on circle A and the best result on circle B. The weather is good, in the morning it's cool +20, after lunch it's hot +30. The air is very dense. Sometimes strong gusts of wind. At the opening of the national team of Ukraine and America were together, next to me, I took a little photo. I wish all excellent flights. Regards.RusLan Kurenkov

Vitalis Pilkionis · « **Reply #7 on:** July 15, 2018, 06:02:20 AM »

Live picture from Landres:

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #8 on:** July 15, 2018, 06:16:42 AM »

I'm wondering if this will be the stunt circle-that was a speed run I just saw. Those trees don't look fun.

Dave

SteveMoon · « **Reply #9 on:** July 15, 2018, 08:28:38 AM »

And Orestes Hernandez. He is there as defending champ.

Steve

John Paris · « **Reply #10 on:** July 15, 2018, 09:51:45 AM »

Just spoke with Steve Hines. Samantha got her flight in earlier, scoring in the upper 800s. Not sure where the board is that tracks the results, might only come out at the end of the day. Some problems being reported for Richard Oliver with the oil they are using in the fuel. Steve said something about an engine change. Hopefully someone can add to this as info rolls in.
John

Gordon Van Tighem · « **Reply #11 on:** July 15, 2018, 11:35:24 AM »

'Landres Word Championships F2' and 'PAMPA Control Line' sites on facebook have regular updates.
Some pictures:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1183703601662853/permalink/2037987052901166/
G

Elwyn Aud · « **Reply #12 on:** July 15, 2018, 07:18:14 PM »

No F2B results yet but F2A competition was really close. The top 3 leaders were all at 297 KPH and some change. Nine tenths of a difference between first and third. Not having observed any speed flying before, maybe this is common.

Gordon Van Tighem · « **Reply #13 on:** July 16, 2018, 03:26:42 AM »

Day 1 results.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/119490068110977/permalink/1898319866894646/

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Derek Barry · « **Reply #14 on:** July 16, 2018, 04:48:12 AM »

Derek Barry · « **Reply #15 on:** July 16, 2018, 04:48:44 AM »

Derek Barry · « **Reply #16 on:** July 16, 2018, 04:49:28 AM »

Joe Bowman · « **Reply #17 on:** July 16, 2018, 04:54:23 AM »

Thanks Derek

Gordon Van Tighem · « **Reply #18 on:** July 16, 2018, 12:16:06 PM »

An interesting study, perhaps Sparky might be interested as he is a student of judging consistency?
G

Brett Buck · « **Reply #19 on:** July 16, 2018, 12:30:04 PM »

Quote from: Gordon Van Tighem on July 16, 2018, 12:16:06 PM

An interesting study, perhaps Sparky might be interested as he is a student of judging consistency?
G

They already have people doing that over in Europe. It immediately descends to the usual "monkey house" substance-flinging activity, of course.

Brett

Steve Helmick · « **Reply #20 on:** July 16, 2018, 01:17:36 PM »

Scoring looks reasonably close between these three judges, IMO. The 0-10 scoring system with K-factors takes some getting used to.

One summer we did 0-10 scoring in our two Canadian contests, but ditched the K-factors...worked fine. I flew and judged in both, IIRC. I don't like the idea of bringing decimals to the tabulators...KISS...no decimals. Speed and accuracy in tabulation are more important...don't make it any harder.

Less than perfect tabulation is totally unacceptable. FWIW, I am in favor of having the pilots check their score sheets and initial them as being correct (like golf), before putting them on the scoreboard. I advocated this for free flight events also. Simply have a calculator available for the fliers and make them do it!

Steve

Gordon Van Tighem · « **Reply #21 on:** July 16, 2018, 03:01:34 PM »

The judge scoring example I posted is from yesterday’s flight in Landres, France.
G

Derek Barry · « **Reply #22 on:** July 16, 2018, 03:39:00 PM »

Quote from: Gordon Van Tighem on July 16, 2018, 03:01:34 PM

The judge scoring example I posted is from yesterday’s flight in Landres, France.
G

The last time I went, we were fortunate enough to have Shareen there to double check all of our score sheets. She found more than one mistake...

If you don't have a Shareen, I suggest you total your own scores, just to be sure.

Derek

pmackenzie · « **Reply #23 on:** July 16, 2018, 11:07:13 PM »

FWIW, they are using an electronic scribe system so there are no manual steps between the judges and the totals.

Score sheets are available before you get your lines rolled up.

Pat MacKenzie

Bob Reeves · « **Reply #24 on:** July 18, 2018, 04:15:30 AM »

Any results from day-3? Some of us will not do facebook.

RC Storick · « **Reply #25 on:** July 18, 2018, 04:30:40 AM »

Quote from: Bob Reeves on July 18, 2018, 04:15:30 AM

Any results from day-3? Some of us will not do facebook.

Yep, I am one of those who dropped the CIA operation Spybook. The Gov wants everyone's DNA what better way than to get YOU to pay for it with the guise of ancestry and to get you to post your every waking moment for everyone to follow.

James Holford · « **Reply #26 on:** July 18, 2018, 05:11:38 AM »

Quote from: RC Storick on July 18, 2018, 04:30:40 AM

Yep, I am one of those who dropped the CIA operation Spybook. The Gov wants everyone's DNA what better way than to get YOU to pay for it with the guise of ancestry and to get you to post your every waking moment for everyone to follow.

Think you just described twitter lol

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk

Paul Walker · « **Reply #27 on:** July 18, 2018, 09:38:28 AM »

Qualifying over.

Orestes and Chris through to the finals.

Good luck to them!

jfv · « **Reply #28 on:** July 18, 2018, 10:50:52 AM »

where can we find the scores?

pmackenzie · « **Reply #29 on:** July 18, 2018, 10:57:27 AM »

Quote from: jfv on July 18, 2018, 10:50:52 AM

where can we find the scores?

http://www.f2cmbl.org/index.php/fr/wc2018

edit - just checked and the results are still only for first two flights

jfv · « **Reply #30 on:** July 18, 2018, 11:29:49 AM »

Joe Yau · « **Reply #31 on:** July 18, 2018, 11:33:49 AM »

Qualifying Rounds Results..

Randy Cuberly · « **Reply #32 on:** July 18, 2018, 11:57:53 AM »

Quote from: RC Storick on July 18, 2018, 04:30:40 AM

Yep, I am one of those who dropped the CIA operation Spybook. The Gov wants everyone's DNA what better way than to get YOU to pay for it with the guise of ancestry and to get you to post your every waking moment for everyone to follow.

Yeah, Me too!
Especially since the people that operate the thing are such Creepy socialist jerks!

Randy Cuberly

Tom Luciano · « **Reply #33 on:** July 18, 2018, 02:57:38 PM »

Its now 11pm in France. Did they fly the first round of the flyoff? Website said from 4pm to 830pm.

Best,

Tom

Elwyn Aud · « **Reply #34 on:** July 18, 2018, 03:53:45 PM »

The results I looked at around 4PM differed a little from the results previously posted. Am I looking at the right page?

John Paris · « **Reply #35 on:** July 18, 2018, 05:14:34 PM »

Elwyn,
Your form is from a couple of days ago with only 2 flights in. Follow the link that Pat Mackenzie posted for the latest. It seems to have the current scores now.
John

Joe Yau · « **Reply #36 on:** July 18, 2018, 05:34:20 PM »

Quote from: Elwyn Aud on July 18, 2018, 03:53:45 PM

The results I looked at around 4PM differed a little from the results previously posted. Am I looking at the right page?

Hi Elwyn, The results I posted above is the same as the f2cmbl.org website..
http://www.f2cmbl.org/index.php/fr/wc2018 (click on F2B results)

Elwyn Aud · « **Reply #37 on:** July 18, 2018, 06:44:27 PM »

Thanks. The results I saw were on the same website so they must have updated it since I looked earlier.

M Spencer · « **Reply #38 on:** July 18, 2018, 11:31:25 PM »

Trump shoulda got the Tarriffs on the Chinese Quicker . !

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Fly Offs the Top 15 / Not the top 20 ? . The orstrawiansl be miffed .

Tom Luciano · « **Reply #39 on:** July 19, 2018, 03:47:18 AM »

Question for the guys that are versed in the FAI rules.

Are the two juniors who were outside the top 15 after qualifying eligible to still win the "open"world championship? Or, at this point, just trying to win the junior division?

Thanks,
Tom

jose modesto · « **Reply #40 on:** July 19, 2018, 09:54:48 AM »

Tom only one junior competed in the 15 finalist the one from China. The Japanese and Ukrainian were junior
These kids had beautiful models
The Chinese junior flew a GB from the Yatsenko composite molded
The Ukrainian junior flew a Maestro from Ukraine composite molded
The Japanese a built up balsa and tissue plane
Jose modesto

Derek Barry · « **Reply #41 on:** July 19, 2018, 10:13:47 AM »

Just talked to Chris, they are having some issues getting the scores correct. He said currently he is in 7th, Orestes in 5th.

Derek

Derek Barry · « **Reply #42 on:** July 19, 2018, 11:03:26 AM »

Quote from: Bob Hunt on July 19, 2018, 10:39:40 AM

Interesting... Did he say if the top spot had changed or was in contention?

Bob

He didn't say, and I didn't think to ask. If I hear back from him I will let you know.

Derek

Lauri Malila · « **Reply #43 on:** July 19, 2018, 11:32:41 AM »

Chinese won, Marco 2nd, Igor 3rd. L

Matt Colan · « **Reply #44 on:** July 19, 2018, 12:33:06 PM »

According to their facebook page, Liu Yang is first, followed by Marco and Igor in third

Jim Kraft · « **Reply #45 on:** July 19, 2018, 01:16:50 PM »

Trying to figure out from their web site is like Abbot and Costello's who's on first. It would be interesting to know which flew electric and who flew glow. But that info may never be known. As it is, we will be blessed just to know who placed where.

john e. holliday · « **Reply #46 on:** July 19, 2018, 01:23:57 PM »

From what I have seen on facebook and the Barton site team USA did not fair too well except for Chris and Orestes. Looks like Chinese are team champions with Japan right behind. Did not try to figure who the third place team is. Too bad we can't get more support from our own country. At least we can thank all the team members for representing the USA in the different F2 events.

Randy Cuberly · « **Reply #47 on:** July 19, 2018, 02:29:16 PM »

I suppose the Chinese Team won the Team Trophy. I have to wonder if it's still like the old days where those guys were totally sponsored by their Government.

I always wonder why I don't like the Chinese...guess I'm just a BAAAD...Guy!

Incidentally. Did something happen to Joe Gilbert? He's such a nice person and, to me at least seems to be a much better flyer than his scores reflect.

Did the judges just not like him because he's a "New Guy". By the way I also do not like the French and have never trusted them to do anything honestly. I dealt with a lot of them through NATO in Europe when they were pulling out of NATO in the 1960's and to a man they were "RATS" in my opinion and they all were arrogant and hated Americans.
If the Germans or Russians or anyone else decide again they want France they can have it as far as I'm concerned. In fact, I would form a cheering section! I would never go there for any reason.

I certainly know the judges were not all French but my guess is if there was any was possible way, the rotten french would try to stack the deck against the American Team!

Just my educated opinion and your's may vary without malice from me!

Randy Cuberly

Paul Walker · « **Reply #48 on:** July 19, 2018, 02:32:50 PM »

Preliminary scores were wrong.

Yang (China) 1st

Valliera (Italy) 2nd

Burger (Slovikia) 3rd

Nogome (Japan) 4th

Hernandez (USA) 5th

Hiki (Japan) 6th

Rudd (USA) 7th

Team Japan 1st

Team China 2nd

Tean France 3rd

Randy Cuberly · « **Reply #49 on:** July 19, 2018, 02:34:42 PM »

Congratulations to Marco, Orestes, and and Chris !

Randy Cuberly