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Offline Juan Valentin

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Pailet Pegasus twin boom stunter
« on: September 15, 2023, 10:58:22 AM »


            Has anybody built the Jean Pailet Pegasus twin boom stunter with a flying stabilator or had seen the original fly? I have been looking at the plans and wondered how it flew. I find it interesting and have thought about building one with a few changes. I have the Model Airplane News March 1964 issue and read the article but there is not much information in it on how it flew. I would like to know how stable was in level flight and how it turn with the flying stab. if you have any info please let me know.
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Re: Pailet Pegasus twin boom stunter
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2023, 03:22:22 PM »
Hi Juan
Can't help you with this model but I can say twin booms can fly very well for a lot less faffing about build wise. I scratch built a twin boom with an OS 30 a few years ago and have had an enormous amount of fun with it. Planted some balsawood trees with it several times but it has been tough and easy to fix and chuck back up in no time. Good rough weather model and of course built legless, like any flying wing can fly from virtually any surface with a hand launch and belly flop landing.

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Re: Pailet Pegasus twin boom stunter
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2023, 09:25:53 PM »
Like any plane especially combat it depends on the anount of movement and the CG.  It should be as stable as any other plane if set up right. D>K
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Re: Pailet Pegasus twin boom stunter
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2023, 09:55:13 PM »

            Has anybody built the Jean Pailet Pegasus twin boom stunter with a flying stabilator or had seen the original fly? I have been looking at the plans and wondered how it flew. I find it interesting and have thought about building one with a few changes. I have the Model Airplane News March 1964 issue and read the article but there is not much information in it on how it flew. I would like to know how stable was in level flight and how it turn with the flying stab. if you have any info please let me know.
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   I think the history of the airplane is, it was less than a success, so he cut the wing out of it and used it in another model that he published the plans for in Flying Models magazine, I just can't remember the name of it right now.

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Re: Pailet Pegasus twin boom stunter
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2023, 10:58:34 PM »
   I think the history of the airplane is, it was less than a success, so he cut the wing out of it and used it in another model that he published the plans for in Flying Models magazine, I just can't remember the name of it right now.

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Re: Pailet Pegasus twin boom stunter
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2023, 11:10:12 AM »
13 years ago, I produced kits of all three of Jean's designs.  None sold very well. Here is the link.  The Skylark was the prettiest in my opinion.  The fuselages were all basically the same shape.

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Re: Pailet Pegasus twin boom stunter
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2023, 11:54:06 AM »
Here's my Ephesian from the mid '90's.  It was my first tuned pipe plane with a 46VF and took my quite successfully through the intermediate class.  was very stable yet turned very well.
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Re: Pailet Pegasus twin boom stunter
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2023, 12:27:03 PM »

                  Thanks for all the replies they have been very helpful. I went to the link that Brent Williams posted on the Zephyr and found some comments by Bob hunt about the Pegasus and Zephyr that make me think that the flying stab did not provide the improvement Jean Pailet was looking for when he used it in the Pegasus. The clue is that he reverted to a normal stab and elevator on the Zephyr and with the same wing he was getting better performance out of the set up.
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Re: Pailet Pegasus twin boom stunter
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2023, 12:28:40 PM »
Hi Juan
Can't help you with this model but I can say twin booms can fly very well for a lot less faffing about build wise. I scratch built a twin boom with an OS 30 a few years ago and have had an enormous amount of fun with it. Planted some balsawood trees with it several times but it has been tough and easy to fix and chuck back up in no time. Good rough weather model and of course built legless, like any flying wing can fly from virtually any surface with a hand launch and belly flop landing.

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                          Thanks for posting I loved the picture.
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Re: Pailet Pegasus twin boom stunter
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2023, 12:32:51 PM »
Here's my Ephesian from the mid '90's.  It was my first tuned pipe plane with a 46VF and took my quite successfully through the intermediate class.  was very stable yet turned very well.
               
    Hello Will
                            I`m saving the picture of your twin boomer Ephesian very colorful. Did it have full span flaps or just a flap between the booms?
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Re: Pailet Pegasus twin boom stunter
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2023, 04:28:32 PM »
               
    Hello Will
                            I`m saving the picture of your twin boomer Ephesian very colorful. Did it have full span flaps or just a flap between the booms?
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The "big E" was full span flaps, and the set up was the old 45/45 degrees one before I learned better.  It still flew very well.
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Re: Pailet Pegasus twin boom stunter
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2023, 08:45:29 PM »
Mike mentioned the lack of response to his Pailet kit efforts. I was intrigued by the Skylark, which seemed to be a beautiful model---until I read about the odd control deflections it seemed to need. I just couldn't see spending the time to build a nice looking model that would likely have non-standard trim issues: (IIRC) a ton of flap to a small amount of elevator. There are other nice planes that didn't have a puzzling weirdness baked in....

It was also curious how he used "hardwood" fuselage sides in lieu of balsa....

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